6.2 Drivers with MMC 9.08

Knightwing2 · Apr 6, 2006, 06:28 AM

Hi all, I've read some places that you can have the 6.2 display drivers but use MMC 9.08. When I do it everything seems fine, but when I start the TV part up the sound is looped every second it seems and constantly gets louder. The controls are also smaller than usual. When I try and run the initialization wizard to change anything it freezes. Is there something I might be doing wrong?

Apparently I can't change channels either.
If it helps I'm on an AIW 9600xt

H3X4D3C1M4L · Apr 6, 2006, 03:32 PM

Try reinstalling it using driver cleaner, sounds like a buggered MMC install

The_Neon_Cowboy · Apr 6, 2006, 07:40 PM

make sure you useing all the latest companets such as the latest DAO and driver,
it's in in th lst of downloads with MMC

You sjhould be able to use cat 6.2 but hy not use the latest driver? Actually 6.4
isn't t awfully far way either... Why aren't you useing 9.13 MMC?

H3X4D3C1M4L · Apr 6, 2006, 09:53 PM

Umm I reccomend against DAO. It isn't actually needed UNLESS you want to record directly to WMV

Knightwing2 · Apr 6, 2006, 11:44 PM

Ok I tried reinstalling and it pretty much just made things worse. It now says the capture drivers aren't enumerated, even though I have them installed.

I don't use the latest MMC because I don't like having TV on Demand at all. Plus I always seem to have problems with the newer ones.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Apr 6, 2006, 11:46 PM

Did you use driver cleaner?

Knightwing2 · Apr 6, 2006, 11:55 PM

Yea, I'm gonna try it again though. Is there an order to how I should install them, like new drivers first then old MMC?

Also that was a fast reply there h3x, I restarted my comp and there it was

H3X4D3C1M4L · Apr 7, 2006, 12:03 AM

GMail is that good

I do it like this:

Uninstall everything
Driver Cleaner
CAB Cleaner
Reboot
Install drivers of choice
Reboot
Configure drivers
Install MMC
Configure
Test
If ok, go on to Remote wonder
Reboot
Test
etc.

Knightwing2 · Apr 7, 2006, 12:15 AM

Ok I'll go ahead and try that, hopefully it'll work.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Apr 7, 2006, 12:17 AM

If it doesn't, well you could weigh your options and consider something other than MMC for TV

Knightwing2 · Apr 7, 2006, 01:15 AM

Yea it didn't work, the picture is back though, but the sound, tv on demand button, and pause button, are all or broken again

What alternatives are there?

H3X4D3C1M4L · Apr 7, 2006, 01:23 AM

DScaler and Beyond TV are two notable alternatives

Knightwing2 · Apr 7, 2006, 01:30 AM

I'll check those out later when I get back from class, thanks for the help again H3X

ROBSCIX · Apr 7, 2006, 03:19 AM

Why don't your try a different version of drivers and MMC, although that's the exact config I use, well I ues the DHzeropoint 6.2 drivers and MMC 9.08, and i have the same card as you. is it possible you have something else gumming up the works? what all do you have starting up in the system tray?

Knightwing2 · Apr 7, 2006, 08:11 AM

Just my antivirus and firewall. I'm actually trying to install 8.8. Just because thats the only one I've actually ever had work for me. That and I'm kinda lazy, it's easier to use the cd. But I think I'm gonna try 9.08 very soon.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Apr 7, 2006, 08:47 PM

Well try it and let us know how it goes.

ROBSCIX · Apr 7, 2006, 09:52 PM

I recently did a reinstall, when I install drivers I install:

1. Latest Chipset-or if been having issue Known good chipset drivers.
2. Base video Drivers&WDM's -Know good set, or latest modded set I have been testing and know works.
3. Whatever version of MMC I want.

See, I always treat the ATI drivers and the MMC stuff seperate, meaning you can remove or install one side of the coin without worrying about the other. I hope that might help...good luck

Knightwing2 · Apr 8, 2006, 08:56 AM

Thanks for the advice, been busy with school today so I haven't had a chance to try it. But I do have a question. Do the Display drivers and WDM drivers have to be the same?

ROBSCIX · Apr 8, 2006, 06:21 PM

AFAIK, No they don't have to be from the same release..That is what you mean correct?
3 parts to the VIVO type cards- base diplay drivers, WDM drivers, MMC+company

Knightwing2 · Apr 8, 2006, 06:52 PM

Yes that is what I meant, thank you. Off to test now.

Knightwing2 · Apr 8, 2006, 09:18 PM

Ok I finally got MMC 9.08 to work. Haven't tried recording yet, but I'm just happy I can watch tv again

ROBSCIX · Apr 8, 2006, 09:43 PM

Great, glad you got it working. I have the EXACT same card as you a 9600XT and it's been great. I try lots of different drivers and different MMC's and they all seem to work. Maybe these models are on of the "better" or should I say more stable cards...don't know. I am just glad I have a card that functions and does what I bought it for..

Knightwing2 · Apr 8, 2006, 11:50 PM

Ah shoot, I guess I spoke too soon. I have a delay now with the composite inputs. Any ideas on how to fix that? TV on Demand isn't on so I know it's not that.

ROBSCIX · Apr 8, 2006, 11:58 PM

What do you mean by a delay? YOu mean between audio and video? Your Sync is off? YEah you can fix that by changin the Rage Theatre driver...the NSP fix.. Hav eyou bee following that thread?, if not it's the fix that changes the AIW audio from digital back to the Line_in...that connector on the back of the PC that goes from the AIW to the Soundcard. alot of guys who were having sync issues used this and fixed it..

Knightwing2 · Apr 9, 2006, 12:06 AM

Oh sorry, its the video game delay thing. I remember last time I had it the only way to fix it was to reinstall it and hope for the best.

ROBSCIX · Apr 9, 2006, 12:26 AM

Yeah you have a sync issue, if you change that driver...Your game has a delay BUT if you change that driver it should fix it for you. DO you know what I am talking about? You change the NSP driver to the SP version. It forces MMC to use the analog connection again which is alot quicker than the digital one..so that should give you the speed needed to play your game station without the Lag..

Knightwing2 · Apr 9, 2006, 12:46 AM

Which driver is it?

Edit: I think I got it, I should change the NSP drivers to the standard SP drivers? For both the Rage Audio and Video?

H3X4D3C1M4L · Apr 9, 2006, 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knightwing2

Which driver is it?

Edit: I think I got it, I should change the NSP drivers to the standard SP drivers? For both the Rage Audio and Video?

Yes those are the ones

Knightwing2 · Apr 9, 2006, 09:20 AM

Ok so here's something tricky...I change the Rage Theater Video drivers to the SP ones, and when I try to use the TV I get no sound, and that's the only driver that says NSP next to it. I try to change the Rage Theater Audio to the same set of drivers as the video and I get no video, but it still starts. Any ideas on fixing that?

H3X4D3C1M4L · Apr 9, 2006, 09:02 PM

Are you sure you have the analog passthrough cable connected right and the line in selected?

Apr 6, 2006, 06:28 AM	#1
Knightwing2 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	6.2 Drivers with MMC 9.08 Hi all, I've read some places that you can have the 6.2 display drivers but use MMC 9.08. When I do it everything seems fine, but when I start the TV part up the sound is looped every second it seems and constantly gets louder. The controls are also smaller than usual. When I try and run the initialization wizard to change anything it freezes. Is there something I might be doing wrong? Apparently I can't change channels either. If it helps I'm on an AIW 9600xt Last edited by Knightwing2; Apr 6, 2006 at 07:02 AM.

Apr 6, 2006, 07:40 PM	#3
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	make sure you useing all the latest companets such as the latest DAO and driver, it's in in th lst of downloads with MMC You sjhould be able to use cat 6.2 but hy not use the latest driver? Actually 6.4 isn't t awfully far way either... Why aren't you useing 9.13 MMC? __________________ Last edited by The_Neon_Cowboy; Apr 6, 2006 at 10:02 PM.

Apr 9, 2006, 12:46 AM	Thread Starter #27
Knightwing2 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	Which driver is it? Edit: I think I got it, I should change the NSP drivers to the standard SP drivers? For both the Rage Audio and Video? Last edited by Knightwing2; Apr 9, 2006 at 12:53 AM.

Apr 6, 2006, 03:32 PM	#2
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Try reinstalling it using driver cleaner, sounds like a buggered MMC install

Apr 6, 2006, 09:53 PM	#4
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Umm I reccomend against DAO. It isn't actually needed UNLESS you want to record directly to WMV

Apr 6, 2006, 11:44 PM	Thread Starter #5
Knightwing2 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	Ok I tried reinstalling and it pretty much just made things worse. It now says the capture drivers aren't enumerated, even though I have them installed. I don't use the latest MMC because I don't like having TV on Demand at all. Plus I always seem to have problems with the newer ones.

Apr 6, 2006, 11:46 PM	#6
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Did you use driver cleaner?

Apr 6, 2006, 11:55 PM	Thread Starter #7
Knightwing2 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	Yea, I'm gonna try it again though. Is there an order to how I should install them, like new drivers first then old MMC? Also that was a fast reply there h3x, I restarted my comp and there it was

Apr 7, 2006, 12:03 AM	#8
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	GMail is that good I do it like this: Uninstall everything Driver Cleaner CAB Cleaner Reboot Install drivers of choice Reboot Configure drivers Install MMC Configure Test If ok, go on to Remote wonder Reboot Test etc.

Apr 7, 2006, 12:15 AM	Thread Starter #9
Knightwing2 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	Ok I'll go ahead and try that, hopefully it'll work.

Apr 7, 2006, 12:17 AM	#10
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	If it doesn't, well you could weigh your options and consider something other than MMC for TV

Apr 7, 2006, 01:15 AM	Thread Starter #11
Knightwing2 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	Yea it didn't work, the picture is back though, but the sound, tv on demand button, and pause button, are all or broken again What alternatives are there?

Apr 7, 2006, 01:23 AM	#12
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	DScaler and Beyond TV are two notable alternatives

Apr 7, 2006, 01:30 AM	Thread Starter #13
Knightwing2 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	I'll check those out later when I get back from class, thanks for the help again H3X

Apr 7, 2006, 03:19 AM	#14
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	Why don't your try a different version of drivers and MMC, although that's the exact config I use, well I ues the DHzeropoint 6.2 drivers and MMC 9.08, and i have the same card as you. is it possible you have something else gumming up the works? what all do you have starting up in the system tray?

Apr 7, 2006, 08:11 AM	Thread Starter #15
Knightwing2 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	Just my antivirus and firewall. I'm actually trying to install 8.8. Just because thats the only one I've actually ever had work for me. That and I'm kinda lazy, it's easier to use the cd. But I think I'm gonna try 9.08 very soon.

Apr 7, 2006, 08:47 PM	#16
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Well try it and let us know how it goes.

Apr 7, 2006, 09:52 PM	#17
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	I recently did a reinstall, when I install drivers I install: 1. Latest Chipset-or if been having issue Known good chipset drivers. 2. Base video Drivers&WDM's -Know good set, or latest modded set I have been testing and know works. 3. Whatever version of MMC I want. See, I always treat the ATI drivers and the MMC stuff seperate, meaning you can remove or install one side of the coin without worrying about the other. I hope that might help...good luck

Apr 8, 2006, 08:56 AM	Thread Starter #18
Knightwing2 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	Thanks for the advice, been busy with school today so I haven't had a chance to try it. But I do have a question. Do the Display drivers and WDM drivers have to be the same?

Apr 8, 2006, 06:21 PM	#19
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	AFAIK, No they don't have to be from the same release..That is what you mean correct? 3 parts to the VIVO type cards- base diplay drivers, WDM drivers, MMC+company

Apr 8, 2006, 06:52 PM	Thread Starter #20
Knightwing2 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	Yes that is what I meant, thank you. Off to test now.

Apr 8, 2006, 09:18 PM	Thread Starter #21
Knightwing2 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	Ok I finally got MMC 9.08 to work. Haven't tried recording yet, but I'm just happy I can watch tv again

Apr 8, 2006, 09:43 PM	#22
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	Great, glad you got it working. I have the EXACT same card as you a 9600XT and it's been great. I try lots of different drivers and different MMC's and they all seem to work. Maybe these models are on of the "better" or should I say more stable cards...don't know. I am just glad I have a card that functions and does what I bought it for..

Apr 8, 2006, 11:50 PM	Thread Starter #23
Knightwing2 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	Ah shoot, I guess I spoke too soon. I have a delay now with the composite inputs. Any ideas on how to fix that? TV on Demand isn't on so I know it's not that.

Apr 8, 2006, 11:58 PM	#24
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	What do you mean by a delay? YOu mean between audio and video? Your Sync is off? YEah you can fix that by changin the Rage Theatre driver...the NSP fix.. Hav eyou bee following that thread?, if not it's the fix that changes the AIW audio from digital back to the Line_in...that connector on the back of the PC that goes from the AIW to the Soundcard. alot of guys who were having sync issues used this and fixed it..

Apr 9, 2006, 12:06 AM	Thread Starter #25
Knightwing2 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	Oh sorry, its the video game delay thing. I remember last time I had it the only way to fix it was to reinstall it and hope for the best.

Apr 9, 2006, 12:26 AM	#26
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	Yeah you have a sync issue, if you change that driver...Your game has a delay BUT if you change that driver it should fix it for you. DO you know what I am talking about? You change the NSP driver to the SP version. It forces MMC to use the analog connection again which is alot quicker than the digital one..so that should give you the speed needed to play your game station without the Lag..

Apr 9, 2006, 09:20 AM	Thread Starter #29
Knightwing2 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	Ok so here's something tricky...I change the Rage Theater Video drivers to the SP ones, and when I try to use the TV I get no sound, and that's the only driver that says NSP next to it. I try to change the Rage Theater Audio to the same set of drivers as the video and I get no video, but it still starts. Any ideas on fixing that?

Apr 9, 2006, 09:02 PM	#30
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Are you sure you have the analog passthrough cable connected right and the line in selected?