AIW, MMC 15 Problem

RCWong · Aug 19, 2006, 05:05 PM

Hi,

Im having problems with watching TV in MMC. Seems after I updated my ATI drivers to 6.8 and MMC 15, I started to get this problem. The problem is when I start MMC, I can hear each channel, but there isnt any video. and when I put it in thruview I then can see it. And if I return to the regular view it works for that channel but if I change it, it would go back to the blank screen and I still can hear the channels. I tried uninstalling the drivers & MMC then using driver cleaner and reinstalling everything and I still cant get it to work. Is there anything I can do to fix this?

Specs:

Pentium 4 3.2 GHz
Abit IC7-Max3
AIW 9800 Pro
Sony 17 inch LCD

H3X4D3C1M4L · Aug 24, 2006, 06:05 PM

Downgrade the MMC... I expect that's a new issue with MMC 9.15

RCWong · Sep 1, 2006, 12:49 AM

Hmm Strange, I installed the DHzeros drivers and now the MMC works now.

Ryan

H3X4D3C1M4L · Sep 2, 2006, 04:12 AM

Which ZP were they, I think I'll give it a try

RCWong · Sep 2, 2006, 05:16 PM

Their 0.68 release.

Ryan

nbarzgar · Sep 3, 2006, 12:54 PM

Hi there, (got an AIW X800GT)

have problems as well, although I CAN watch TV more or less undisturbed and catpure it as well. BUT I am still using composite-connector for analogue sources a lot, and THAT has two glitches with the latest MMC:

1. There is something called "automatic volume control" (or similar, am using german version), that in my case is always on, to be accessed ONLY through context-menu and greyed out always so I cannot change it...!

2. The "stereo"-mode is turned on by default and yet - starting MMC shows it to be "mono" and I can only change that by switching over to channels, change 'mono' to 'stereo', than switch back again to composite.

So: Is there any reasonable software out there, which would work with the latest Catalyst AND the strange "ATI T200 Unified AVStream"-driver???

If ATIs software only would be better! There must have been such a LOT of 'prayers' since earliest times, I wonder if up there anything else is heard...

H3X4D3C1M4L · Sep 4, 2006, 03:06 AM

Try DScaler for your composite video usage, nbarzgar

nbarzgar · Sep 26, 2006, 06:44 PM

It is a somewhat late return, but anyway: thanks for the suggestion, but Dscaler does not work with AIW-cards per definition. It's on their homepage somewhere...

I tried it (just in case) and it won't...

EDIT: I use the Catalyst 6.2 with Control Panel (instead of CCC, faster that way) and the MMC 9.08. It's a reasonably well working combination. But there are still drawbacks:
1. The WDM-NSP drivers are the digital verrsion of the WDM-drivers coming with the Catalyst. The SP-drivers are (or contain) the analogue version, but I cannot use those on this card, audio won't work that way.
2. Because of the digital audio used, the classics of the capture-softwares like VirtualDub, VirtualVCR or iuVCR DO NOT work with the card. There is no audio...

If anyone has got a solution for this I would be really happy...

H3X4D3C1M4L · Sep 28, 2006, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nbarzgar

It is a somewhat late return, but anyway: thanks for the suggestion, but Dscaler does not work with AIW-cards per definition. It's on their homepage somewhere...

I tried it (just in case) and it won't...

EDIT: I use the Catalyst 6.2 with Control Panel (instead of CCC, faster that way) and the MMC 9.08. It's a reasonably well working combination. But there are still drawbacks:
1. The WDM-NSP drivers are the digital verrsion of the WDM-drivers coming with the Catalyst. The SP-drivers are (or contain) the analogue version, but I cannot use those on this card, audio won't work that way.
2. Because of the digital audio used, the classics of the capture-softwares like VirtualDub, VirtualVCR or iuVCR DO NOT work with the card. There is no audio...

If anyone has got a solution for this I would be really happy...

Funny enough DScaler works on my card

I guess it doesn't matter now AiWs are getting discontinued and we never got that fabled Catalyst MMC

nbarzgar · Sep 30, 2006, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H3X4D3C1M4L

Funny enough DScaler works on my card

Well, I should say it works 'half way': I get video, I can capture it, but there is NO audio, neither in preview nor in the captured file.
Can you help me? Perhabs you would post your settings? Especially concerning set-up of card vs. systems audio device. Which drivers are you using?

Quote:

Originally Posted by H3X4D3C1M4L

I guess it doesn't matter now AiWs are getting discontinued and we never got that fabled Catalyst MMC

What do you mean by that?

Thank you for all the help, here and elsewhere in the forum!
EDIT: I have got the AIW X800GT, and am in Germany, DScaler refuses to find any channels... It switches back to card's default in "format", so although I need to setup for PAL-B, it would use NTSC, it seems and does not find channels.
I get video on composite though, s.a. but under "Audio Inputs" there is nothing shown, not even greyed-out options... Is it a format problem possibly...? EDIT.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Sep 30, 2006, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nbarzgar

Well, I should say it works 'half way': I get video, I can capture it, but there is NO audio, neither in preview nor in the captured file.
Can you help me? Perhabs you would post your settings? Especially concerning set-up of card vs. systems audio device. Which drivers are you using?

What do you mean by that?

Thank you for all the help, here and elsewhere in the forum!
EDIT: I have got the AIW X800GT, and am in Germany, DScaler refuses to find any channels... It switches back to card's default in "format", so although I need to setup for PAL-B, it would use NTSC, it seems and does not find channels.
I get video on composite though, s.a. but under "Audio Inputs" there is nothing shown, not even greyed-out options... Is it a format problem possibly...? EDIT.

My setup for audio with DScaler is using the input from the Creative Audigy 4 line in, I'm not using the NSP or T200 drivers I'm using the WDM_SP drivers I got off my CD

I mean the point is moot now because ATI has discontinued their AiW product line and will likely discontinue support thereafter.

The Catalyst MMC Center was a new and improved MMC to go with Catalyst Control Center but we never got that. Nor a working MMC.

ROBSCIX · Oct 13, 2006, 07:45 PM

Try VLC, or Video Lan Client...seems to work great but it's a little hard to configure. take some figurin'...lol

Aug 19, 2006, 05:05 PM	#1
RCWong DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2006 Location: Miami, FL U.S.A. Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	AIW, MMC 15 Problem Hi, Im having problems with watching TV in MMC. Seems after I updated my ATI drivers to 6.8 and MMC 15, I started to get this problem. The problem is when I start MMC, I can hear each channel, but there isnt any video. and when I put it in thruview I then can see it. And if I return to the regular view it works for that channel but if I change it, it would go back to the blank screen and I still can hear the channels. I tried uninstalling the drivers & MMC then using driver cleaner and reinstalling everything and I still cant get it to work. Is there anything I can do to fix this? Specs: Pentium 4 3.2 GHz Abit IC7-Max3 AIW 9800 Pro Sony 17 inch LCD

Sep 3, 2006, 12:54 PM	#6
nbarzgar DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 29 Rep Power: 0	Software Alternative for MMC 9.15?? HELP! Hi there, (got an AIW X800GT) have problems as well, although I CAN watch TV more or less undisturbed and catpure it as well. BUT I am still using composite-connector for analogue sources a lot, and THAT has two glitches with the latest MMC: 1. There is something called "automatic volume control" (or similar, am using german version), that in my case is always on, to be accessed ONLY through context-menu and greyed out always so I cannot change it...! 2. The "stereo"-mode is turned on by default and yet - starting MMC shows it to be "mono" and I can only change that by switching over to channels, change 'mono' to 'stereo', than switch back again to composite. So: Is there any reasonable software out there, which would work with the latest Catalyst AND the strange "ATI T200 Unified AVStream"-driver??? If ATIs software only would be better! There must have been such a LOT of 'prayers' since earliest times, I wonder if up there anything else is heard...

Sep 26, 2006, 06:44 PM	#8
nbarzgar DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 29 Rep Power: 0	It is a somewhat late return, but anyway: thanks for the suggestion, but Dscaler does not work with AIW-cards per definition. It's on their homepage somewhere... I tried it (just in case) and it won't... EDIT: I use the Catalyst 6.2 with Control Panel (instead of CCC, faster that way) and the MMC 9.08. It's a reasonably well working combination. But there are still drawbacks: 1. The WDM-NSP drivers are the digital verrsion of the WDM-drivers coming with the Catalyst. The SP-drivers are (or contain) the analogue version, but I cannot use those on this card, audio won't work that way. 2. Because of the digital audio used, the classics of the capture-softwares like VirtualDub, VirtualVCR or iuVCR DO NOT work with the card. There is no audio... If anyone has got a solution for this I would be really happy... Last edited by nbarzgar; Sep 26, 2006 at 06:56 PM.

Aug 24, 2006, 06:05 PM	#2
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Downgrade the MMC... I expect that's a new issue with MMC 9.15

Sep 1, 2006, 12:49 AM	Thread Starter #3
RCWong DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2006 Location: Miami, FL U.S.A. Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Hmm Strange, I installed the DHzeros drivers and now the MMC works now. Ryan

Sep 2, 2006, 04:12 AM	#4
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Which ZP were they, I think I'll give it a try

Sep 2, 2006, 05:16 PM	Thread Starter #5
RCWong DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2006 Location: Miami, FL U.S.A. Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Their 0.68 release. Ryan

Sep 4, 2006, 03:06 AM	#7
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Try DScaler for your composite video usage, nbarzgar

Oct 13, 2006, 07:45 PM	#12
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	Try VLC, or Video Lan Client...seems to work great but it's a little hard to configure. take some figurin'...lol