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Old Sep 18, 2006, 09:31 AM   #1
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Suddenly...Lose Video Sync When Capturing Video
Without warning, all of a sudden my AIW 9600 system can't keep video sync when I start the TV app. That is, when I start up the TV IN on that system, in just a few seconds, my monitor goes to a black screen and the disconnect light starts blinking.

This started happening recently after using MMC 9.14 for a few weeks. I was using the recorder along with Omega's latest drivers for quite some time and it was working very well.

Then, one night I turned around and the monitor was off. I restarted it and, as long as I don't start up the TV IN mode, the monitor is just fine as well as the whole system. But, just as soon as I start the TV IN, it's only a matter of seconds before I lose the monitor again.

So, I uninstalled Omega's drivers and then installed the latest ATI drivers for AIW cards. Also, I upgraded to the MMC 9.15.

No go. Same problem.

So, no joy in Dyre Land.
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Dare I say fried tuner?
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Dare I say fried tuner?
Explain how that would cause the entire monitor to shutdown? My brain's not working very well right now.
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Explain how that would cause the entire monitor to shutdown? My brain's not working very well right now.
Neither is mine I just went to a concert....much fun but much pain afterwards

Well if the tuner dies something on the card would likely go down with it. Right? Same way if you get shot somewhere non critical, without being fixed you'll eventually have bad stuff happening then you'll keel over
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Neither is mine I just went to a concert....much fun but much pain afterwards

Well if the tuner dies something on the card would likely go down with it. Right? Same way if you get shot somewhere non critical, without being fixed you'll eventually have bad stuff happening then you'll keel over
I haven't had time to work on this problem but hope to spend some time on it later tonight.

My 'hunch' at the moment is that something is causing the Refresh Rate to mess up and this is causing the monitor to shutdown. It's ONLY a hunch right now and I'm going to remove all of the video drivers, MMC, clean up the Registry and go back to the pre-unified TV MMC version to see if that makes any difference at all. If it still happens, then, yes, it's a hardware problem.

But, I think it's software at the moment.
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I finally got some time to work on this system tonight.

I uninstalled everything related to ATI, rebooted, ran CCleaner a few times, and made sure the system was cleaned up of all previous and current ATI-related software.

Once that was done, I used the ATI CD and installed MMC 8.8 and the video drivers on that CD.

I'm right now running the TV Capture windows behind this one and it's been up for several minutes.

I think I'm going to avoid anything related to the Unified driver from now on. The WDMs are working fine.....so far.
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I think I'm going to avoid anything related to the Unified driver from now on. The WDMs are working fine.....so far.
So am I, using BeyondTV and the T200's it takes 31 seconds to flip a channel and get sound.

What a laugh.
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What a laugh.

My 'laughing' brought tears to my eyes.

It's a real heartache that ATI can't get this to work right.
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UPDATED: Well, I've completely reverted to the older MMC 8.8 and haven't had a lost signal, lockup, or any other strange problem since. This reversion eliminated completely the T200 Unified driver on my system.

I've captured video after video of OBLIVION over the past couple of nights and there's not once been a 'program not responding' error, either.
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I'm getting fed up with my AiW and I'm considering just ditching it entirely (soldering a resistor to either side of the tuner) and using it as a pure gaming card If I kill it in the process well that's an excuse to get another card isn't it?

MMC 8.8 won't work on X800XT's, I think only the 1st revision supported WDM_SP drivers
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I'm getting fed up with my AiW and I'm considering just ditching it entirely (soldering a resistor to either side of the tuner) and using it as a pure gaming card If I kill it in the process well that's an excuse to get another card isn't it?

MMC 8.8 won't work on X800XT's, I think only the 1st revision supported WDM_SP drivers
I haven't tried the earlier MMCs on my X800 XL.

The AIW I have is the 9600 and, since reverting to the MMC 8.8 I've been pleased as punch. All the problems I've reported with MMC 9.x have disappeared.

There's been no 'application not responding', no lock-ups, no hideous scrolling shadow bar on my videos, nothing so far that I can find wrong.

BUT, all of us AIW users probably need to consider alternatives anyway. The reports are out that ATI is going to discontinue them.
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BUT, all of us AIW users probably need to consider alternatives anyway. The reports are out that ATI is going to discontinue them.
They did. The AMD/ATI merger seemed to prompt them to do that (maybe AMD is listening to us and not ATI hah!)
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They did. The AMD/ATI merger seemed to prompt them to do that (maybe AMD is listening to us and not ATI hah!)
Since I've been a bit out of the loop lately: Will our ATi cards still have VIVO?

I'm not so much into watching TV on my computer as much as I'm needing/wanting to capture my games and make movies from one computer to the other.
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I'm doubting that new cards will get VIVO, dead AiWs probly means dead Theatre chips and all, unless they staple one on from a dedicated PCI Tuner
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