TV tuner card suggestions?

Just Learnin' · Feb 4, 2007, 04:03 AM

Hello all,

I am entertaining the notion of setting up a PC as a TV recorder basically. I have a P4 3.06 533 FSB, on an ASUS P4S800-D with 2 X 1GB sticks of DDR 333. There is a 250GB SATA drive as well. The video card is an ASUS 9600XT/TVD AGP.

What I would like, if possible, are suggestions on what to use for a TV tuner card?

Thanks -Pete

kbuzzard · Feb 4, 2007, 02:32 PM

Oh boy, words of wisdom, if ya want to play games, get an xbox - Playstation
If ya want to do TV stuff, well, chuckle, are you ready to increase blood pressure and decrease quality of life,
Question 1, If you are running W2000 ( not SP3 or4) or XP Pro or SP1 and can refrain from upgrading MS's miserable updates, try an Older ATI TV PCI wonder, they are wonderfull, Older Hauppauge's ok too. MultiMedia happiness STOPS with SP2, use your old VHS and enjoy more LIFE. ( been doing this for 10 years) 9 of it spent trying to record consistantly, you've been advised.

~~DudeBoyz~~ · Feb 4, 2007, 02:36 PM

http://www.hauppauge.com/

They make some awesome stuff.

http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/prods_pvr.html

Just Learnin' · Feb 4, 2007, 04:22 PM

My thanks to you both. I have XP Pro SP2 so it really isn't worth it at all? If I were to make an attempt with this OS which exact models would be worth trying? I have never tried this before and am curious so..... My X800 XT AIW is being used as just a video card in another rig and as Kbuzzard stated it is useless as anything else.

Is there anything XP Pro SP2 didn't make useless?

~~DudeBoyz~~ · Feb 4, 2007, 04:37 PM

Not sure if it is worth it or not. Unless you are sure it has working Vista drivers too, so you can be future proof.

Retarp · Feb 4, 2007, 06:07 PM

I use the ATI HDTV wonder. It works great! However, the software is a bit buggy, but I use it to watch over the air HD programming & my analog cable TV.

Go check out the AVS forums to find out what everyone there is using: www.avsforum.com

Just Learnin' · Feb 5, 2007, 01:17 AM

Thanks for the link Retarp! Anyone have experience with this, http://www.leadtek.com.tw/usa/tv_tun...&pronameid=322 ?

kbuzzard · Feb 5, 2007, 06:10 PM

WOW _ RETARP, Awesome Dude, where have you been, SUPER post " www.avsforum.com". I surfed it and got to "http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=399319, good lord, SUPER nice. Down the list I found some TV Multimedia software posts and surfed and WALLA !!!!!!!!!!!!! One that works with ATI AIW's PCI TV's and Hauppauges called "Got All Media v6.0.0.0 and current updated. It is LESS THAN 10 MEGS and FREE. I dl'd and installed, hit config and mt TV carfd and sound firerd up and I did a cable channel auto serch and HOLLY CHIT its working. Says it will work with AIW 9800's withoput uninstalling MMC, Gotta play, I will repost as I find issues etc. G.A.M has nice website with Documentation and forum, God are our prayers final;ly answered, RETARP, I genuflect Man ......... btw the downloads. com did NOT have DL link, plenty of mirrirs. This soft does WAY WAY more than just TV too, check it out........

kbuzzard · Feb 5, 2007, 06:49 PM

Program looks like MS Media Center BUT highly customizable, pretty intense setup and covers about ALL !!!! inc location of Vid and Aud files etc, full customizable AND working off CAR 6.7 setup and NOT WDM drivers but the ATI200 unified drivers, This COULD be our salvation folks ..... later p.s. also EGG from 2 sources OR none at all

kbuzzard · Feb 6, 2007, 12:35 AM

Well, wheewwww, It will play AIW 9600/9800 TV and FM, record takes "other" software. steup is pretty complicated and documentation and forums are

somewhat) helpful. It has much veriety and if ya like to fiddle, ;i am banjo'ed out, myself" try it.

http://www.gallm.com/Downloads/default.aspx.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Feb 6, 2007, 08:21 PM

I'm wondering how many AiW/TV card users would be willing to work with bulding MythTV from source and using Linux perhaps

Hauppage cards seem to be the best however I have given up on Windows almost all together.

kbuzzard · Feb 6, 2007, 08:22 PM

OK !!!, again thanks to RETARP there is a small prog that will play and capture TV from AIW's with either AVS200 unified crappy driver or BETTER with WDM drivers in either XP SP1 or 2. I t is less than 10 meg install, VERY simple BUT catures and utilizes TitanTV,Zap2it, and any other. It runs from WMP encoders and uses a wopping 20megs of RAM to work. Check out " http://www.maksil.com/ " and use newest dl, screenshots here, http://www.maksil.com/tv_window.htm. Read about and try. Records a WMV file with quality adj's, easy to convert to Xvid with MPEG 4 Direct Maker and you can dl and use FREE "MPLayer" which will play damn near ANYTHING incv DVD's. MMC in 15 megs or less and WAYYYYYY less finicky. Says this will work with ANY TV card with WDM drivers and obviously AVS200 unified. GOOD BYE MMC's its been nice !!!,

Not Really.).
I wish someone can make up somthing like this with Xvid encoder, maybe I can... Have fun.

Just Learnin' · Feb 6, 2007, 08:35 PM

Your incredibly tenacious Kbuzzard!

kbuzzard · Feb 6, 2007, 09:06 PM

H3D, I like your MythTV / Linux deal, someone on NET is working on that. Go DL the link on my post above. It is truely amazing how FAST it sets up, Frankly, I realize how much of a boat anchor MMC's are. MsDVR + MPlayer do 85% of MMC with > than 20 megs and 20 megs of RAM. I have a LIVE CD of Myrinix with MythTV and it will NOT detect AIW tuner but will detect ATI TV PCI.

kbuzzard · Feb 6, 2007, 09:09 PM

Tenacious, LOL, Hey, I have taken hammers to PC chit, I paid good money "then" for this AIW and have on rare occasions enjoyed it. They are great Hardware devices thrown to the public, unfinished for the almighty dollar, further F__ged by DRM and RIAA, WE lost somewhere in this race to uselessness.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Feb 15, 2007, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbuzzard

H3D, I like your MythTV / Linux deal, someone on NET is working on that. Go DL the link on my post above. It is truely amazing how FAST it sets up, Frankly, I realize how much of a boat anchor MMC's are. MsDVR + MPlayer do 85% of MMC with > than 20 megs and 20 megs of RAM. I have a LIVE CD of Myrinix with MythTV and it will NOT detect AIW tuner but will detect ATI TV PCI.

Well does me no good then, but I'm sure with a little magic I could get it done.

I was considering using OpenBSD perhaps, for everything except games... I'm beginning to love that OS

bobbyhelpme · May 2, 2007, 08:39 PM

Hi all, not sure where to start. ATI ALL IN WONDER 9600!!! for XP OS, I have lost the tv capabilaty

. In my computor under hardware, in the device manager, under sound, video and game controllers. I found ATI WDM Rage Theater Audio, ATI WDM Rage Theater and ATI WDM TV AUdio Crossbar. Under the properties tab for all 3 of these, it says this device cannot start. (code 10). I can't say 100% sure that it started when about a year ago I installed service pack 2. I will say it has been that long since my ATI TV worked. I have read a lot of comments and heard and tried a lot of suggestions from here and the ATI site among others. None have worked. The only thing I would like to know and it has been asked in many forums, is why ATI has not addressed this problem and if so giving a solution. Has anyone with xp found a solution to fix this problem. Please let me and all othere who are still sane. Thanks, Bobbyhelpme.

H3X4D3C1M4L · May 15, 2007, 08:38 PM

Bobby please see http://www.hardwareheaven.com/1054764-post9.html

Feb 4, 2007, 04:03 AM	#1
Just Learnin' HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 1,414 Rep Power: 56 System Specs	TV tuner card suggestions? Hello all, I am entertaining the notion of setting up a PC as a TV recorder basically. I have a P4 3.06 533 FSB, on an ASUS P4S800-D with 2 X 1GB sticks of DDR 333. There is a 250GB SATA drive as well. The video card is an ASUS 9600XT/TVD AGP. What I would like, if possible, are suggestions on what to use for a TV tuner card? Thanks -Pete

Feb 5, 2007, 06:10 PM	#8
kbuzzard DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Buford, Georgia Posts: 83 Rep Power: 0	WOW _ RETARP, Awesome Dude, where have you been, SUPER post " www.avsforum.com". I surfed it and got to "http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=399319, good lord, SUPER nice. Down the list I found some TV Multimedia software posts and surfed and WALLA !!!!!!!!!!!!! One that works with ATI AIW's PCI TV's and Hauppauges called "Got All Media v6.0.0.0 and current updated. It is LESS THAN 10 MEGS and FREE. I dl'd and installed, hit config and mt TV carfd and sound firerd up and I did a cable channel auto serch and HOLLY CHIT its working. Says it will work with AIW 9800's withoput uninstalling MMC, Gotta play, I will repost as I find issues etc. G.A.M has nice website with Documentation and forum, God are our prayers final;ly answered, RETARP, I genuflect Man ......... btw the downloads. com did NOT have DL link, plenty of mirrirs. This soft does WAY WAY more than just TV too, check it out........ Last edited by kbuzzard; Feb 5, 2007 at 06:28 PM.

Feb 4, 2007, 02:32 PM	#2
kbuzzard DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Buford, Georgia Posts: 83 Rep Power: 0	Oh boy, words of wisdom, if ya want to play games, get an xbox - Playstation If ya want to do TV stuff, well, chuckle, are you ready to increase blood pressure and decrease quality of life, Question 1, If you are running W2000 ( not SP3 or4) or XP Pro or SP1 and can refrain from upgrading MS's miserable updates, try an Older ATI TV PCI wonder, they are wonderfull, Older Hauppauge's ok too. MultiMedia happiness STOPS with SP2, use your old VHS and enjoy more LIFE. ( been doing this for 10 years) 9 of it spent trying to record consistantly, you've been advised.

Feb 4, 2007, 02:36 PM	#3
~~DudeBoyz~~ banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,677 Rep Power: 0	http://www.hauppauge.com/ They make some awesome stuff. http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/prods_pvr.html

Feb 4, 2007, 04:22 PM	Thread Starter #4
Just Learnin' HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 1,414 Rep Power: 56 System Specs	My thanks to you both. I have XP Pro SP2 so it really isn't worth it at all? If I were to make an attempt with this OS which exact models would be worth trying? I have never tried this before and am curious so..... My X800 XT AIW is being used as just a video card in another rig and as Kbuzzard stated it is useless as anything else. Is there anything XP Pro SP2 didn't make useless?

Feb 4, 2007, 04:37 PM	#5
~~DudeBoyz~~ banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,677 Rep Power: 0	Not sure if it is worth it or not. Unless you are sure it has working Vista drivers too, so you can be future proof.

Feb 4, 2007, 06:07 PM	#6
Retarp DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 119 Rep Power: 0	I use the ATI HDTV wonder. It works great! However, the software is a bit buggy, but I use it to watch over the air HD programming & my analog cable TV. Go check out the AVS forums to find out what everyone there is using: www.avsforum.com

Feb 5, 2007, 01:17 AM	Thread Starter #7
Just Learnin' HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 1,414 Rep Power: 56 System Specs	Thanks for the link Retarp! Anyone have experience with this, http://www.leadtek.com.tw/usa/tv_tun...&pronameid=322 ?

Feb 5, 2007, 06:49 PM	#9
kbuzzard DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Buford, Georgia Posts: 83 Rep Power: 0	Program looks like MS Media Center BUT highly customizable, pretty intense setup and covers about ALL !!!! inc location of Vid and Aud files etc, full customizable AND working off CAR 6.7 setup and NOT WDM drivers but the ATI200 unified drivers, This COULD be our salvation folks ..... later p.s. also EGG from 2 sources OR none at all

Feb 6, 2007, 12:35 AM	#10
kbuzzard DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Buford, Georgia Posts: 83 Rep Power: 0	Well, wheewwww, It will play AIW 9600/9800 TV and FM, record takes "other" software. steup is pretty complicated and documentation and forums are somewhat) helpful. It has much veriety and if ya like to fiddle, ;i am banjo'ed out, myself" try it. http://www.gallm.com/Downloads/default.aspx.

Feb 6, 2007, 08:21 PM	#11
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	I'm wondering how many AiW/TV card users would be willing to work with bulding MythTV from source and using Linux perhaps Hauppage cards seem to be the best however I have given up on Windows almost all together.

Feb 6, 2007, 08:22 PM	#12
kbuzzard DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Buford, Georgia Posts: 83 Rep Power: 0	OK !!!, again thanks to RETARP there is a small prog that will play and capture TV from AIW's with either AVS200 unified crappy driver or BETTER with WDM drivers in either XP SP1 or 2. I t is less than 10 meg install, VERY simple BUT catures and utilizes TitanTV,Zap2it, and any other. It runs from WMP encoders and uses a wopping 20megs of RAM to work. Check out " http://www.maksil.com/ " and use newest dl, screenshots here, http://www.maksil.com/tv_window.htm. Read about and try. Records a WMV file with quality adj's, easy to convert to Xvid with MPEG 4 Direct Maker and you can dl and use FREE "MPLayer" which will play damn near ANYTHING incv DVD's. MMC in 15 megs or less and WAYYYYYY less finicky. Says this will work with ANY TV card with WDM drivers and obviously AVS200 unified. GOOD BYE MMC's its been nice !!!, Not Really.). I wish someone can make up somthing like this with Xvid encoder, maybe I can... Have fun.

Feb 6, 2007, 08:35 PM	Thread Starter #13
Just Learnin' HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 1,414 Rep Power: 56 System Specs	Your incredibly tenacious Kbuzzard!

Feb 6, 2007, 09:06 PM	#14
kbuzzard DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Buford, Georgia Posts: 83 Rep Power: 0	H3D, I like your MythTV / Linux deal, someone on NET is working on that. Go DL the link on my post above. It is truely amazing how FAST it sets up, Frankly, I realize how much of a boat anchor MMC's are. MsDVR + MPlayer do 85% of MMC with > than 20 megs and 20 megs of RAM. I have a LIVE CD of Myrinix with MythTV and it will NOT detect AIW tuner but will detect ATI TV PCI.

Feb 6, 2007, 09:09 PM	#15
kbuzzard DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Buford, Georgia Posts: 83 Rep Power: 0	Tenacious, LOL, Hey, I have taken hammers to PC chit, I paid good money "then" for this AIW and have on rare occasions enjoyed it. They are great Hardware devices thrown to the public, unfinished for the almighty dollar, further F__ged by DRM and RIAA, WE lost somewhere in this race to uselessness.

May 2, 2007, 08:39 PM	#17
bobbyhelpme DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Hi all, not sure where to start. ATI ALL IN WONDER 9600!!! for XP OS, I have lost the tv capabilaty . In my computor under hardware, in the device manager, under sound, video and game controllers. I found ATI WDM Rage Theater Audio, ATI WDM Rage Theater and ATI WDM TV AUdio Crossbar. Under the properties tab for all 3 of these, it says this device cannot start. (code 10). I can't say 100% sure that it started when about a year ago I installed service pack 2. I will say it has been that long since my ATI TV worked. I have read a lot of comments and heard and tried a lot of suggestions from here and the ATI site among others. None have worked. The only thing I would like to know and it has been asked in many forums, is why ATI has not addressed this problem and if so giving a solution. Has anyone with xp found a solution to fix this problem. Please let me and all othere who are still sane. Thanks, Bobbyhelpme.

May 15, 2007, 08:38 PM	#18
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Bobby please see http://www.hardwareheaven.com/1054764-post9.html