The Problems I now experience with my ATi All-in-Wonder Radeon 8500DV. Need some Help!

peterosesbookie · May 10, 2002, 01:26 PM

The first problem was no dvd hardware acceleration on Powerdvd. Now that is fixed. My next problem is that of MMC 7.6 System Checker. I startup the system Check and run it. Goes through the soundcard and it is fine. Then on down the line until it hits the wdm driver section. It take about 1-2 minutes and then on its marry way to know known problems except it cannot check my promise tx2000 Raid controller for DMA issues.

1. Now I cannot get Hardware acceleration on the dvd until I repair MMC 7.6.
2. I cannot Watch Tv and it shows A black screen and A white line temporary at the top.

The next problem that occurs is that my sound cards stability is +.20%-.54%. What does this mean to me. It my sound card faster than my videocard during VIVO activity? When I capture the sound is fine at the beginning for the first 15 minutes then it starts to get faster than the video.

Here are my system specs:

Antec sx-1030B
Antec PP-510D Power Supply
Tyan Thunder K7 S2462 -NG
2 AMD Athlon MP 1900+ (1.6 ghz)
ATI ALL IN WONDER RADEON 8500 DV
2 sticks of Crucial REG ECC 2100 256MB Memory (512 total)
2 sticks of Corsair REG ECC 2100 256MB Memory (512 total)
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz
Promise Raid TX2000 ATA 133
2 40 GB Hard drives Maxtor diamond max plus 7200RPM (boot and backup)
2 60 GB Hard drives Maxtor diamond max plus 7200RPM (120-112GB Running raid 0)
Toshiba 16x dvd 1612
Plextor 24/12/40 black
Sony 3.5 Black floppy
All Vantec Cables to fit 3 18 2 24 (Floppy and dvd/cd drives)
2 Thermaltake 6CU+ 7000RPM
Cyber Cooler INC SC-180 System blower for videocard and soundcard heat
Ambient (Intel) V.90 hardware modem

OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Version 5.1.2600 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name DUAL-VIPER
System Manufacturer Tyan
System Model THUNDER K7
System Type X86-based PC
Processor x86 Family 6 Model 6 Stepping 2 AuthenticAMD ~1592 Mhz
Processor x86 Family 6 Model 6 Stepping 2 AuthenticAMD ~1592 Mhz
BIOS Version/Date Phoenix Technologies Ltd. Guinness-8, 14/05/2002
SMBIOS Version 2.3
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\System32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.0 (xpclient.010817-1148)"
User Name DUAL-VIPER\Clark C Whitacre RN
Time Zone Eastern Daylight Time
Total Physical Memory 1,024.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 702.25 MB
Total Virtual Memory 3.40 GB
Available Virtual Memory 2.89 GB
Page File Space 2.40 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys

conflicts

IRQ 0 System timer OK
IRQ 1 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard OK
IRQ 3 Communications Port (COM2) OK
IRQ 4 Communications Port (COM1) OK
IRQ 6 Standard floppy disk controller OK
IRQ 8 System CMOS/real time clock OK
IRQ 9 Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System OK
IRQ 12 PS/2 Compatible Mouse OK
IRQ 13 Numeric data processor OK
IRQ 14 Primary IDE Channel OK
IRQ 15 Secondary IDE Channel OK
IRQ 16 Santa Cruz(tm) OK
IRQ 17 ALL-IN-WONDER RADEON 8500DV OK
IRQ 17 OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller OK
IRQ 18 Intel V92 HaM Data Fax Voice OK
IRQ 18 3Com EtherLink Server 10/100 PCI (3C980C-TXM) OK
IRQ 19 Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller OK
IRQ 19 WinXP Promise FastTrak TX2000 (tm) Controller OK

Memory Address 0x50300000-0x503FFFFF PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge
Memory Address 0x50300000-0x503FFFFF OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller

I/O Port 0x00000000-0x00000CF7 PCI bus
I/O Port 0x00000000-0x00000CF7 Direct memory access controller

I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF AMD-762 Processor to AGP Controller
I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF ALL-IN-WONDER RADEON 8500DV

I/O Port 0x00002000-0x00002FFF AMD-762 Processor to AGP Controller
I/O Port 0x00002000-0x00002FFF ALL-IN-WONDER RADEON 8500DV

IRQ 17 ALL-IN-WONDER RADEON 8500DV
IRQ 17 OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller

IRQ 18 Intel V92 HaM Data Fax Voice
IRQ 18 3Com EtherLink Server 10/100 PCI (3C980C-TXM)

IRQ 19 Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller
IRQ 19 WinXP Promise FastTrak TX2000 (tm) Controller

Memory Address 0xC0000000-0xC7FFFFFF AMD-762 Processor to AGP Controller
Memory Address 0xC0000000-0xC7FFFFFF ALL-IN-WONDER RADEON 8500DV

Memory Address 0x50200000-0x503FFFFF AMD-762 Processor to AGP Controller
Memory Address 0x50200000-0x503FFFFF ALL-IN-WONDER RADEON 8500DV

Memory Address 0xA0000-0xCCFFF PCI bus
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xCCFFF AMD-762 Processor to AGP Controller
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xCCFFF ALL-IN-WONDER RADEON 8500DV

I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB AMD-762 Processor to AGP Controller
I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB ALL-IN-WONDER RADEON 8500DV

Memory Address 0xDC000-0xDFFFF PCI bus
Memory Address 0xDC000-0xDFFFF Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller

I hope you can help.

pete

Jeff · May 11, 2002, 01:12 AM

What WDM Capture driver are you using?

digitalwanderer · May 11, 2002, 01:27 AM

I don't know how to help you with your problem, I just wanted to say jeeze what a nice rig you've got yourself!

I hope someone helps you get it fixed up soon, it'd be a sin to let that thing be glitchy.

peterosesbookie · May 13, 2002, 01:25 AM

I am tried to use both the WHQL 5118's and 5120's beta and still recieved the same response. I have no problems with MMC 7.5 doing it. What is wierd is the system it detects states that I am using Directx 7 and Windows 2000 for some odd reason, and that it has always has stated that sinced the beginning with both MMC's.

I Hope you can help Cyborg.

pete

Greebo_x · May 15, 2002, 08:34 PM

Peter,

I had similar problems at one point under Win2k, because either the drivers or the registry somehow got corrupted by a 3rd-part software install which used the capture drivers(!) The solution for me turned out to be doing a COMPLETE uninstall and removal of ALL ATI-related drivers (including registry entires), then doing the reinstall in the order: reload Direct X 8.1 (I was just being extra cautious) - official display driver- WDM drivers - MMC 7.6 - DVD 7.6 - Remote Wonder 1.1.

There's a good thread you can find on rage3d that tells how to do a REALLY clean uninstall, including deleting any files ATI leaves around and cleaning registry leftovers...

Of course, if you've tried all this already, never mind.

Grimister · May 21, 2002, 08:20 PM

Well I had a similar situation when I was using a hercules muse sound card and a AIW 7500, I went out and bought a cheepo Sound Blaster 16 pci cause I had read on one the the ATI boards that certain sound cards seem to hold there clock better then others for audio capture. The SB16 pci got a .01 in ATI's compatibility check and kept perfect sync with the video during captue, I now use a AIW 8500DV and Soundblaster Platinium Audigy with Tyan s2260 motherboard P4 2.0 gig. Hope this shoots ya down the right track!

peterosesbookie · May 22, 2002, 12:46 PM

I have had both soundcards since the start. I have a Soundblaster Audigy Platnium and the Turtle beach Santa Cruz. When I put the system together, the Soundblaster Audigy receieved an -.64 - -.19 at times. After that, I did a fresh install. Then, I installed a turtle beach and now I receive a score of +.20 - +.54 . The turtle beach sound card is faster and the Soundblaster is slower. I do not know what to get next?

The only thing that I can configure is that the chipset drivers is the problem because I did not have any problems with the audigy or Santa Cruz with Via chipsets.

Any Ideas

Later

pete

Grimister · May 25, 2002, 12:05 PM

Sorry that didnt seem to be it, but I did experience this similar problem with my via chipset board till I went to the cheepo sb16, as a matter of fact it had the best test score compared to the audigy, but I fell into the audigy for a dirt cheap price.

Fede Pede · Jun 12, 2002, 11:33 PM

It's a commen problem under w2k at the sound get's out of sync.
How to fix it.

I use vegas 3.0 to stretch-shrink the sound to it fits and re render the sound the i use tmpgenc to multiplex it to a new mpeg files.

How to use vegas.
Load the file in to Vegas.

lock the movie and move the sound forward or lock the sound and move the movie backward to you get it in sync at the end.
next you set the time line to absolute frame and go to the start zoom in and see how many frames it's out of sync.

Now you move the sound og movie back to start . go to the end and (click/drag + Alt key) move the sound those number of frames it's out of sync.

If your sound is to fast then the sound have to be Stretch.
if Your Sound is to slow then the sound have to be Shrink.

Fede Pede...

PS: I know My English Stinks

PPS:Under Win2k and i think also win xp the sound will always come out of sync.
It's because Win2k and XP use Wdm Driver..
Ppps:You can also look over at http://www.vcdhelp.com they have at lot of tips and solutions.

May 10, 2002, 01:26 PM	#1
peterosesbookie HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: OHIO Posts: 556 Rep Power: 0	The Problems I now experience with my ATi All-in-Wonder Radeon 8500DV. Need some Help! The first problem was no dvd hardware acceleration on Powerdvd. Now that is fixed. My next problem is that of MMC 7.6 System Checker. I startup the system Check and run it. Goes through the soundcard and it is fine. Then on down the line until it hits the wdm driver section. It take about 1-2 minutes and then on its marry way to know known problems except it cannot check my promise tx2000 Raid controller for DMA issues. 1. Now I cannot get Hardware acceleration on the dvd until I repair MMC 7.6. 2. I cannot Watch Tv and it shows A black screen and A white line temporary at the top. The next problem that occurs is that my sound cards stability is +.20%-.54%. What does this mean to me. It my sound card faster than my videocard during VIVO activity? When I capture the sound is fine at the beginning for the first 15 minutes then it starts to get faster than the video. Here are my system specs: Antec sx-1030B Antec PP-510D Power Supply Tyan Thunder K7 S2462 -NG 2 AMD Athlon MP 1900+ (1.6 ghz) ATI ALL IN WONDER RADEON 8500 DV 2 sticks of Crucial REG ECC 2100 256MB Memory (512 total) 2 sticks of Corsair REG ECC 2100 256MB Memory (512 total) Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Promise Raid TX2000 ATA 133 2 40 GB Hard drives Maxtor diamond max plus 7200RPM (boot and backup) 2 60 GB Hard drives Maxtor diamond max plus 7200RPM (120-112GB Running raid 0) Toshiba 16x dvd 1612 Plextor 24/12/40 black Sony 3.5 Black floppy All Vantec Cables to fit 3 18 2 24 (Floppy and dvd/cd drives) 2 Thermaltake 6CU+ 7000RPM Cyber Cooler INC SC-180 System blower for videocard and soundcard heat Ambient (Intel) V.90 hardware modem OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Professional Version 5.1.2600 Build 2600 OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation System Name DUAL-VIPER System Manufacturer Tyan System Model THUNDER K7 System Type X86-based PC Processor x86 Family 6 Model 6 Stepping 2 AuthenticAMD ~1592 Mhz Processor x86 Family 6 Model 6 Stepping 2 AuthenticAMD ~1592 Mhz BIOS Version/Date Phoenix Technologies Ltd. Guinness-8, 14/05/2002 SMBIOS Version 2.3 Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS System Directory C:\WINDOWS\System32 Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1 Locale United States Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.0 (xpclient.010817-1148)" User Name DUAL-VIPER\Clark C Whitacre RN Time Zone Eastern Daylight Time Total Physical Memory 1,024.00 MB Available Physical Memory 702.25 MB Total Virtual Memory 3.40 GB Available Virtual Memory 2.89 GB Page File Space 2.40 GB Page File C:\pagefile.sys conflicts IRQ 0 System timer OK IRQ 1 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard OK IRQ 3 Communications Port (COM2) OK IRQ 4 Communications Port (COM1) OK IRQ 6 Standard floppy disk controller OK IRQ 8 System CMOS/real time clock OK IRQ 9 Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System OK IRQ 12 PS/2 Compatible Mouse OK IRQ 13 Numeric data processor OK IRQ 14 Primary IDE Channel OK IRQ 15 Secondary IDE Channel OK IRQ 16 Santa Cruz(tm) OK IRQ 17 ALL-IN-WONDER RADEON 8500DV OK IRQ 17 OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller OK IRQ 18 Intel V92 HaM Data Fax Voice OK IRQ 18 3Com EtherLink Server 10/100 PCI (3C980C-TXM) OK IRQ 19 Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller OK IRQ 19 WinXP Promise FastTrak TX2000 (tm) Controller OK Memory Address 0x50300000-0x503FFFFF PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge Memory Address 0x50300000-0x503FFFFF OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller I/O Port 0x00000000-0x00000CF7 PCI bus I/O Port 0x00000000-0x00000CF7 Direct memory access controller I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF AMD-762 Processor to AGP Controller I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF ALL-IN-WONDER RADEON 8500DV I/O Port 0x00002000-0x00002FFF AMD-762 Processor to AGP Controller I/O Port 0x00002000-0x00002FFF ALL-IN-WONDER RADEON 8500DV IRQ 17 ALL-IN-WONDER RADEON 8500DV IRQ 17 OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller IRQ 18 Intel V92 HaM Data Fax Voice IRQ 18 3Com EtherLink Server 10/100 PCI (3C980C-TXM) IRQ 19 Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller IRQ 19 WinXP Promise FastTrak TX2000 (tm) Controller Memory Address 0xC0000000-0xC7FFFFFF AMD-762 Processor to AGP Controller Memory Address 0xC0000000-0xC7FFFFFF ALL-IN-WONDER RADEON 8500DV Memory Address 0x50200000-0x503FFFFF AMD-762 Processor to AGP Controller Memory Address 0x50200000-0x503FFFFF ALL-IN-WONDER RADEON 8500DV Memory Address 0xA0000-0xCCFFF PCI bus Memory Address 0xA0000-0xCCFFF AMD-762 Processor to AGP Controller Memory Address 0xA0000-0xCCFFF ALL-IN-WONDER RADEON 8500DV I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB AMD-762 Processor to AGP Controller I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB ALL-IN-WONDER RADEON 8500DV Memory Address 0xDC000-0xDFFFF PCI bus Memory Address 0xDC000-0xDFFFF Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller I hope you can help. pete __________________ A Cat almost always blinks when hit in the head with a ball peen hammer!

May 11, 2002, 01:12 AM	#2
Jeff Yarr... I be blind! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 3,190 Rep Power: 74	What WDM Capture driver are you using? __________________

May 11, 2002, 01:27 AM	#3
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,620 Rep Power: 0	I don't know how to help you with your problem, I just wanted to say jeeze what a nice rig you've got yourself! I hope someone helps you get it fixed up soon, it'd be a sin to let that thing be glitchy. __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

May 13, 2002, 01:25 AM	Thread Starter #4
peterosesbookie HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: OHIO Posts: 556 Rep Power: 0	Sorry for the late post. Been White Water Rafting at WV New River Gorge I am tried to use both the WHQL 5118's and 5120's beta and still recieved the same response. I have no problems with MMC 7.5 doing it. What is wierd is the system it detects states that I am using Directx 7 and Windows 2000 for some odd reason, and that it has always has stated that sinced the beginning with both MMC's. I Hope you can help Cyborg. pete __________________ A Cat almost always blinks when hit in the head with a ball peen hammer!

May 15, 2002, 08:34 PM	#5
Greebo_x Keeper of Obscure Knowledge Join Date: May 2002 Location: Palo Alto, CA Posts: 91 Rep Power: 0	Do a complete uninstall if you haven't already... Peter, I had similar problems at one point under Win2k, because either the drivers or the registry somehow got corrupted by a 3rd-part software install which used the capture drivers(!) The solution for me turned out to be doing a COMPLETE uninstall and removal of ALL ATI-related drivers (including registry entires), then doing the reinstall in the order: reload Direct X 8.1 (I was just being extra cautious) - official display driver- WDM drivers - MMC 7.6 - DVD 7.6 - Remote Wonder 1.1. There's a good thread you can find on rage3d that tells how to do a REALLY clean uninstall, including deleting any files ATI leaves around and cleaning registry leftovers... Of course, if you've tried all this already, never mind. __________________ ============================= Athlon XP1700+ CPU SiS730s based PCChips M810lmr v7.0a MoBo ATI All-In-Wonder 8500dv Win2kPro

May 21, 2002, 08:20 PM	#6
Grimister DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Well I had a similar situation when I was using a hercules muse sound card and a AIW 7500, I went out and bought a cheepo Sound Blaster 16 pci cause I had read on one the the ATI boards that certain sound cards seem to hold there clock better then others for audio capture. The SB16 pci got a .01 in ATI's compatibility check and kept perfect sync with the video during captue, I now use a AIW 8500DV and Soundblaster Platinium Audigy with Tyan s2260 motherboard P4 2.0 gig. Hope this shoots ya down the right track!

May 22, 2002, 12:46 PM	Thread Starter #7
peterosesbookie HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: OHIO Posts: 556 Rep Power: 0	well here is my problem I have had both soundcards since the start. I have a Soundblaster Audigy Platnium and the Turtle beach Santa Cruz. When I put the system together, the Soundblaster Audigy receieved an -.64 - -.19 at times. After that, I did a fresh install. Then, I installed a turtle beach and now I receive a score of +.20 - +.54 . The turtle beach sound card is faster and the Soundblaster is slower. I do not know what to get next? The only thing that I can configure is that the chipset drivers is the problem because I did not have any problems with the audigy or Santa Cruz with Via chipsets. Any Ideas Later pete __________________ A Cat almost always blinks when hit in the head with a ball peen hammer!

May 25, 2002, 12:05 PM	#8
Grimister DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Sorry that didnt seem to be it, but I did experience this similar problem with my via chipset board till I went to the cheepo sb16, as a matter of fact it had the best test score compared to the audigy, but I fell into the audigy for a dirt cheap price.

Jun 12, 2002, 11:33 PM	#9
Fede Pede DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Danmark Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	Audio Out of sync It's a commen problem under w2k at the sound get's out of sync. How to fix it. I use vegas 3.0 to stretch-shrink the sound to it fits and re render the sound the i use tmpgenc to multiplex it to a new mpeg files. How to use vegas. Load the file in to Vegas. lock the movie and move the sound forward or lock the sound and move the movie backward to you get it in sync at the end. next you set the time line to absolute frame and go to the start zoom in and see how many frames it's out of sync. Now you move the sound og movie back to start . go to the end and (click/drag + Alt key) move the sound those number of frames it's out of sync. If your sound is to fast then the sound have to be Stretch. if Your Sound is to slow then the sound have to be Shrink. Fede Pede... PS: I know My English Stinks PPS:Under Win2k and i think also win xp the sound will always come out of sync. It's because Win2k and XP use Wdm Driver.. Ppps:You can also look over at http://www.vcdhelp.com they have at lot of tips and solutions. __________________ Radeon X800 Pro No Oc P4 3.0 GHz 2x512 MB DDR 2700 Samsung Ram Hd Seagate Sata 160 2x40Gb Seagate Barracuda ATA IV