The Stephen Orr Interview is posted!

Shrink · Aug 23, 2003, 02:54 PM

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/dhinterviews/stephenorr/

Post your thoughts here and maybe Stephen will drop in and say a few things if he's not too busy

***Veridian3*** · Aug 23, 2003, 03:35 PM

Great read Shrink, very interesting.

Stu

toddsmack2k · Aug 23, 2003, 04:30 PM

Excellent job shrink! You covered several areas and asked the right questions. A very informing read man. Thanks shrink for doing this interview and thanks to Stephen Orr. We all appreciate it!

cellarboy · Aug 24, 2003, 08:30 AM

Great Interview but DAMN, I can't beleive you didn't ask about support for IR Blasters in MMC. It's probably the second most requested feature after HDTV support. I'm sure I spotted a couple of requests for this question to be asked over at Rage3D too. Dropped the ball on that one I'm afraid.

Vampyromaniac · Aug 24, 2003, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by toddsmack2k
Excellent job shrink! You covered several areas and asked the right questions. A very informing read man. Thanks shrink for doing this interview and thanks to Stephen Orr. We all appreciate it!

Great job, Shrink! And ditto everything Todd said

ArchAngelRay · Aug 24, 2003, 11:14 AM

As posted over at Rage3D:

First, I would like to thank both of you for the somewhat informative interview. I really appreciate Shrink for taking the time to pose these questions to Mr. Orr. As well as Mr. Orr for taking the time to answer them. Though I was really hoping for a more detailed and specific answers to some of the questions, which made it kinda disapointing. All-in-all, I would like to say that it was a good interview. I do understand that Mr. Orr can't release any "secrets" about upcoming products, but it would have been nice, if he could have been more forthcoming about upcoming features of the MMC.

The one question I was hoping to have had answered was about integration, though it was sort of brought up, it would have been nice to have gotten a better response about it. Not about integration into Windows Media Player, but to make it a single app that does all without having to jump to different windows each time. Such as it is now, when you want to watch a DVD, and your watching TV for example, it will close the TV to open a DVD viewer, (if it doesn't crash the MMC or the computer,) it would be nicer to have it just stop the TV and start the DVD without having to open another window. Having the media library where it can be opened beside the viewers, without it being a seperate app, would also be nice. Such as most all the players do now, using WMP and Real Player as an example. I understand that ATI doesn't want to "open up" their software to support skinning, and doesn't care if we can "imbed" the viewers or not, but it would be nice if it were possible to have a more "user friendly" interface.

On the idea of the "GuidePlus+" going the way of the "integrated" guide, I am not too sure about how that sounds, as personnally, I like the ability to see more than one channels content for multiple time frames moreso than I would just being able to see what is on on the current channel and having to scroll thru each individual channel/time frame. I was happy to hear though that ATI is looking into this though.

As far as the MPAA and those sorts of organizations go, I wish they would just go away. The performers would make much more money and wouldn't have to worry about people copying their works for private consumption, if they weren't paying these organizations 2/3 or better of their profits to "use" their own works, to start with as costs of the copywritten materials wouldn't be as outrageously priced as they are today. I mean give me a break, we were told when CD's come out, that the prices would come down, and in fact, they have sky rocketed, so the RIAA and etc, can get more money to steal their works with, let alone to harrass the average person with lawsuits over making a backup copy of what they purchased or watched on TV. IF these organizations had their way, we would be living in a communist country.

Though I see a lot of talk about MMC 8.6 like it's been out for a while, it would be nice to have seen some "screen shots" along with what was being talked about, at least, for those of us who haven't and/or aren't going to run out and purchase a new AIW 9600, for whatever reason.

I would also like to comment on the inclusion of WMV9 codec in MMC, in what way is it supported and in which versions? From what I can tell, the MMC doesn't have the WMV9 codecs included within it's selection list. Though you may be able to go through a long drawn out process to configure it, it's not readily selectable. (Once I get my a new motherboard for my system, I will have to go back and relook this over again to be sure.) Another thing while I am on the subject of codecs that I think wasn't answered well was the one about the inclusion of other codecs, such as MPG4/DivX, is that a "secret" because it's not been "released by ATI" as a possibility or is ATI just not interested in incorporating any new/better codecs?

Anyways, from what all I have gathered from the interview, at the first of the year when I am forced to upgrade my tuner, I will most likely be looking elsewhere for a seperate tuner and going with another company for my video card capabilities. Due to lack of companies producing "All-In-Wonder" type cards as well as the non-standardization issues of drivers and such. Seeing I will be going with an AMD compatible motherboard that more than likely will mean I will be going with another NVidia board when the new AMD 64 bit processors are more widely supported in the upcoming year, and I don't want to have the incompatibility problems anymore when I do upgrade it as well.

*note*
reposted here to double the possibility that Mr. Orr may read it as well as for DriverHeaven's subscribers that don't belong to Rage3d.

Zardon · Aug 24, 2003, 12:26 PM

thanks for the comments guys im sure Stephen will get reading them........

*Stephen Orr* · Aug 24, 2003, 02:58 PM

Way back in the days of ATI's "Multimedia Player" (version 2.0) we had this "single UI" approach. We abandoned it for a number of reasons. One is modularity. We don't ship the same features to all customers and we needed to easily be able to seperate out components and code bases. That isn't an end user reason, but it is a reason.

On the end user front however, a fully integrated solution is very limiting. MMC is perfectly capable of running TV and DVD and File Player all at the same time. This has been the case for several releases. You should be able to fire up a recently recorded clip without leaving the TV application. I think the fact that "other" suites are not capable of this is a shortcoming of those suites.

I suppose EAZYLOOK can be seen as an integrated approach (although underneath this is not the case), but EAZYLOOK is aimed at a simplified experience where only the key / most used features are available.

The other point in your post where I believe you are mis-interpreting me (making assumpotion about what I have said?) is the comment on GuidePlus. Fully integrated does not have to mean limiting you to a single show (as our current EAZYLOOK implementation does), but, as I said in the interview, that is not an area I can go into details about.

Stephen

ArchAngelRay · Aug 24, 2003, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stephen Orr
Way back in the days of ATI's "Multimedia Player" (version 2.0) we had this "single UI" approach. We abandoned it for a number of reasons. One is modularity. We don't ship the same features to all customers and we needed to easily be able to seperate out components and code bases. That isn't an end user reason, but it is a reason.

On the end user front however, a fully integrated solution is very limiting. MMC is perfectly capable of running TV and DVD and File Player all at the same time. This has been the case for several releases. You should be able to fire up a recently recorded clip without leaving the TV application. I think the fact that "other" suites are not capable of this is a shortcoming of those suites.

I suppose EAZYLOOK can be seen as an integrated approach (although underneath this is not the case), but EAZYLOOK is aimed at a simplified experience where only the key / most used features are available.

The other point in your post where I believe you are mis-interpreting me (making assumpotion about what I have said?) is the comment on GuidePlus. Fully integrated does not have to mean limiting you to a single show (as our current EAZYLOOK implementation does), but, as I said in the interview, that is not an area I can go into details about.

Stephen

Again, thank you for your responses, Mr. Orr.

Sorry if I seemed to have mis-interepreted what you said about the guideplus+, but I was, as you suggested, making an assumption from what I gathered from your response about it being integrated in, going on the basis of how Eazylook, (which personally I don't like nor use,) is implemented already. It is understandable as well that you are limited to what you can disclose to us at this time, though it would've been nice if you could have elaborated further.

As far as the integrated approach goes, I had one of the very first AIW cards that was ever produced and liked that interface, personnally, the split up of the applications causes a lot of problems though, for me anyways.

If I open TV player for example, and want to open the DVD up, sometimes, (though admitably not all the time,) the two would "dead-lock", crash or "blue-screen" my computer. Other times it would work ok, and still other times one or the other wont work when doing it that way, (clicking either on the list from within the status bar ATI button, or from the ATI list at the top left of within the players themselves.) And though I can have the Media List up at the same time of any of the other apps, having any of the players up in multiple instances, (such as DVD player, TV player and File player open at the same time,) always has either shut one down and opened up the next, (if not whats listed above,) or just plain didn't work at all, (though the latter has seemingly been fixed and hasn't been a problem since 8.5 was released.)

The biggest reason for my complaint of this is each time I switch to the next app, the monitor physically cycles off/on like it's switching a mode or something, even when using the same codec, (ie MP2,) within each of the three apps, which to be kind, is rather frustrating especially when multitasking and in the middle of it's switch having the need to quickly click on something while this is doing it's recycling. I have had this happen a couple times, needing to click quickly on a pop-up from my firewall to allow/disallow a program web access so as to keep the program from locking up either itself or the computer, and by the time the monitor has cycled, the pop-up has dissappeared and shortly thereafter the system had locked up. Not that I ever have a need to have more than one of the players going at any one time as they are resource hogs and it is impossible, (at least so on my systems,) to view more than one of them at a time. Besides, the MMC basically uses identical skins for each of the players, yet it seems as if they are completely seperated apps, when one would think that making them all one app would entail less coding therefore take up less resources, such as disk space. (Hopefully I have clarified my reasoning behind my madness on this point, though I do understand ATI's reasoning behind theirs.)

Also, after further rereading the comments you made in regard to stereo sound, a lot of the stations nowadays, (at least in my area,) are broadcasting in dolby digital 5.1 format and can be heard through my home stereo system, what would be awesome is if that were possible through the tuner on the AIW's as well. Admitably, not all the time are they broadcasting in 5.1 surround sound or Dolby Digital, but for an increasing number of shows they are.

Though I would more like to have the ability to recieve the digital signals from my cable/satellite box available in an AIW tuner since after the first of the year my area has plans to stop using analog signals for anything. (I know that the federal government gave them until Jan 1 2006 to quit using analog, but my area is already commited to ceasing use of the analog prior to that time, mostly because of liscences/contracts will have to cease sometime prior to that, because of inability to renew these liscences/contracts due to the "force out".)

Thanks again Mr. Orr for replying to our questions.

toddsmack2k · Aug 24, 2003, 05:24 PM

Hello Stephen Orr! It is great to see you here firsthand. Thank you for answering the questions for the interview and these new ones as well. It really solidifies ATi as a company that cares.

Mac Daddy · Aug 24, 2003, 07:16 PM

Excellent interview Shrink .... Well done Mate

Now Mr. Stephen Orr I missed you at ATI last Wednesday.
Nice to see you posting on the forums.

I gave the address of the site and my user name to Paul Ayscough on Wednesday as well.
Hope to see him post here as well as you and Terry.

I have some emails yet to send out .. Hope I catch ya next time I'm at ATI

nricha2 · Aug 24, 2003, 08:37 PM

Great interview Shrink!!! I do feel however that we need more of a definitive answer as to when we will see an IR blaster for the AIW . I would gather that a good percentage of the AIW users have digital cable or satellite.I would like to know if an IR blaster is on the horizon or not .How about it, Mr.Orr when will we see such an item?

*Stephen Orr* · Aug 24, 2003, 11:08 PM

Had I been asked the question, I would have been forced to make a fairly non-descript answer.

"ATI is aware that a growing percentage of ALL-IN-WONDER customers receive their TV signals via a SetTop box, however we have made no specific announcements about adding IR Blaster support to the product and as such it is not an area I can comment on".

I suspect Shrink left the question out deliberately because he new it was one I could not answer...

Stephen

nricha2 · Aug 25, 2003, 01:32 AM

There has been speculation from magazine sources such as Maximum PC,that an IR Blaster will be coming later this year.Can you comment on the validity of this.Also,is there a reason why ATI has left such an item out of its recent product offering (AIW 9600)?

ArchAngelRay · Aug 25, 2003, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nricha2
There has been speculation from magazine sources such as Maximum PC,that an IR Blaster will be coming later this year.

I read this in MaximumPC as well, but I think that Mr. Orr has already answered this with this:

Quote:

Originally posted by Stephen Orr
"ATI is aware that a growing percentage of ALL-IN-WONDER customers receive their TV signals via a SetTop box, however we have made no specific announcements about adding IR Blaster support to the product and as such it is not an area I can comment on".

Though I may be wrong again in my assumption.

*Stephen Orr* · Aug 25, 2003, 01:20 PM

ArchAngelRay is correct - I cannot comment on speculation by Maximum PCs.

HD_HTPC · Aug 26, 2003, 05:35 PM

Shrink,

You mentioned that a solution was found for nVidia audio problems. I've looked all over this site and can not find it.
I saw VIVOtheFury mention the nForce 2.45 release helped his problem, but it does not solve the one that everyone has been complaining about...
Being able to hear the audio from the TV app over the digital SPDIF.

Where did you see the solution?
Do you or anyone else know what needs to be done, and comment on this?

I'm looking into get another TV Tuner card, but any that use analog audio run into a problem over the digital SPDIF. Either while watching the TV live or while recording it. I willing to get a new AIW or other TV tuner card that will work with the nForce digital audio.

I've tried rage3d and nforcershq, and no one has found a solution yet. But that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

gwierny · Aug 27, 2003, 03:13 PM

S. Orr:

Are you aware of TV Tuner/Video Capture issue using ATI Radeon AIW Pro 9700 and 9800 with PAL-N standard used in Argentina and Uruguay? Is ATI planning to fix this compatibility issue ?

For more information check this link at [COLOR=blue]Rage3D[/COLOR].

*Stephen Orr* · Sep 1, 2003, 12:28 AM

Yes - we were aware of this issue before your post and are working to resolve. As usualy I cannot say anything about schedules.

Stephen

marceloM · Oct 31, 2003, 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stephen Orr
Yes - we were aware of this issue before your post and are working to resolve. As usualy I cannot say anything about schedules.

Stephen

Do you have solved it ?

gwierny · Oct 31, 2003, 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by juan_palermo
Do you have solved it ?

Yes, ATI has delivered a beta driver and it works perfect now.
I suppose that ATI will soon release an official fixed driver.

marceloM · Oct 31, 2003, 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gwierny
Yes, ATI has delivered a beta driver and it works perfect now.
I suppose that ATI will soon release an official fixed driver.

If I take my personal experience with cards makers

I Â´m still sharing with others guys, WinFast TV drivers

for PAL-Nc

Aug 23, 2003, 02:54 PM	#1
Shrink Recovering Beta Tester Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bracebridge, Ontario Posts: 130 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	The Stephen Orr Interview is posted! http://www.hardwareheaven.com/dhinterviews/stephenorr/ Post your thoughts here and maybe Stephen will drop in and say a few things if he's not too busy __________________ Shrink "How come things that happen to stupid people keep happening to me?" Homer J. Simpson

Aug 23, 2003, 04:30 PM	#3
toddsmack2k It Never..... Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,173 Rep Power: 0	Excellent job shrink! You covered several areas and asked the right questions. A very informing read man. Thanks shrink for doing this interview and thanks to Stephen Orr. We all appreciate it! __________________ [color=blue]*Bleeding From the Inside Pouring Out, The* *DriverHeaven* Spiral, We Shall Never Let Go Of.[/color]

Aug 24, 2003, 11:14 AM	#6
ArchAngelRay DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: USA Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	As posted over at Rage3D: First, I would like to thank both of you for the somewhat informative interview. I really appreciate Shrink for taking the time to pose these questions to Mr. Orr. As well as Mr. Orr for taking the time to answer them. Though I was really hoping for a more detailed and specific answers to some of the questions, which made it kinda disapointing. All-in-all, I would like to say that it was a good interview. I do understand that Mr. Orr can't release any "secrets" about upcoming products, but it would have been nice, if he could have been more forthcoming about upcoming features of the MMC. The one question I was hoping to have had answered was about integration, though it was sort of brought up, it would have been nice to have gotten a better response about it. Not about integration into Windows Media Player, but to make it a single app that does all without having to jump to different windows each time. Such as it is now, when you want to watch a DVD, and your watching TV for example, it will close the TV to open a DVD viewer, (if it doesn't crash the MMC or the computer,) it would be nicer to have it just stop the TV and start the DVD without having to open another window. Having the media library where it can be opened beside the viewers, without it being a seperate app, would also be nice. Such as most all the players do now, using WMP and Real Player as an example. I understand that ATI doesn't want to "open up" their software to support skinning, and doesn't care if we can "imbed" the viewers or not, but it would be nice if it were possible to have a more "user friendly" interface. On the idea of the "GuidePlus+" going the way of the "integrated" guide, I am not too sure about how that sounds, as personnally, I like the ability to see more than one channels content for multiple time frames moreso than I would just being able to see what is on on the current channel and having to scroll thru each individual channel/time frame. I was happy to hear though that ATI is looking into this though. As far as the MPAA and those sorts of organizations go, I wish they would just go away. The performers would make much more money and wouldn't have to worry about people copying their works for private consumption, if they weren't paying these organizations 2/3 or better of their profits to "use" their own works, to start with as costs of the copywritten materials wouldn't be as outrageously priced as they are today. I mean give me a break, we were told when CD's come out, that the prices would come down, and in fact, they have sky rocketed, so the RIAA and etc, can get more money to steal their works with, let alone to harrass the average person with lawsuits over making a backup copy of what they purchased or watched on TV. IF these organizations had their way, we would be living in a communist country. Though I see a lot of talk about MMC 8.6 like it's been out for a while, it would be nice to have seen some "screen shots" along with what was being talked about, at least, for those of us who haven't and/or aren't going to run out and purchase a new AIW 9600, for whatever reason. I would also like to comment on the inclusion of WMV9 codec in MMC, in what way is it supported and in which versions? From what I can tell, the MMC doesn't have the WMV9 codecs included within it's selection list. Though you may be able to go through a long drawn out process to configure it, it's not readily selectable. (Once I get my a new motherboard for my system, I will have to go back and relook this over again to be sure.) Another thing while I am on the subject of codecs that I think wasn't answered well was the one about the inclusion of other codecs, such as MPG4/DivX, is that a "secret" because it's not been "released by ATI" as a possibility or is ATI just not interested in incorporating any new/better codecs? Anyways, from what all I have gathered from the interview, at the first of the year when I am forced to upgrade my tuner, I will most likely be looking elsewhere for a seperate tuner and going with another company for my video card capabilities. Due to lack of companies producing "All-In-Wonder" type cards as well as the non-standardization issues of drivers and such. Seeing I will be going with an AMD compatible motherboard that more than likely will mean I will be going with another NVidia board when the new AMD 64 bit processors are more widely supported in the upcoming year, and I don't want to have the incompatibility problems anymore when I do upgrade it as well. note reposted here to double the possibility that Mr. Orr may read it as well as for DriverHeaven's subscribers that don't belong to Rage3d. __________________ The Best Truck On The [color=red]Am[/color][color=white]eric[/color][color=blue]an[/color] Road!.

Aug 24, 2003, 02:58 PM	#8
Stephen Orr ATI MMC Guru Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	On Integration et al Way back in the days of ATI's "Multimedia Player" (version 2.0) we had this "single UI" approach. We abandoned it for a number of reasons. One is modularity. We don't ship the same features to all customers and we needed to easily be able to seperate out components and code bases. That isn't an end user reason, but it is a reason. On the end user front however, a fully integrated solution is very limiting. MMC is perfectly capable of running TV and DVD and File Player all at the same time. This has been the case for several releases. You should be able to fire up a recently recorded clip without leaving the TV application. I think the fact that "other" suites are not capable of this is a shortcoming of those suites. I suppose EAZYLOOK can be seen as an integrated approach (although underneath this is not the case), but EAZYLOOK is aimed at a simplified experience where only the key / most used features are available. The other point in your post where I believe you are mis-interpreting me (making assumpotion about what I have said?) is the comment on GuidePlus. Fully integrated does not have to mean limiting you to a single show (as our current EAZYLOOK implementation does), but, as I said in the interview, that is not an area I can go into details about. Stephen __________________ Stephen Orr Manager, Multimedia Applications ATI Technologies Inc.

Aug 24, 2003, 05:24 PM	#10
toddsmack2k It Never..... Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,173 Rep Power: 0	Hello Stephen Orr! It is great to see you here firsthand. Thank you for answering the questions for the interview and these new ones as well. It really solidifies ATi as a company that cares. __________________ [color=blue]*Bleeding From the Inside Pouring Out, The* *DriverHeaven* Spiral, We Shall Never Let Go Of.[/color]

Aug 23, 2003, 03:35 PM	#2
*Veridian3* Administrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cloaked Posts: 5,017 Rep Power: 181	Great read Shrink, very interesting. Stu

Aug 24, 2003, 08:30 AM	#4
cellarboy DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Great Interview but DAMN, I can't beleive you didn't ask about support for IR Blasters in MMC. It's probably the second most requested feature after HDTV support. I'm sure I spotted a couple of requests for this question to be asked over at Rage3D too. Dropped the ball on that one I'm afraid.

Aug 24, 2003, 12:26 PM	#7
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	thanks for the comments guys im sure Stephen will get reading them........

Aug 24, 2003, 07:16 PM	#11
Mac Daddy DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 7,950 Rep Power: 79 System Specs	Excellent interview Shrink .... Well done Mate Now Mr. Stephen Orr I missed you at ATI last Wednesday. Nice to see you posting on the forums. I gave the address of the site and my user name to Paul Ayscough on Wednesday as well. Hope to see him post here as well as you and Terry. I have some emails yet to send out .. Hope I catch ya next time I'm at ATI __________________ "My mom said the only reason men are alive is for lawn care and vehicle maintenance." - Tim Allen

Aug 24, 2003, 08:37 PM	#12
nricha2 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	Steven Orr interview Great interview Shrink!!! I do feel however that we need more of a definitive answer as to when we will see an IR blaster for the AIW . I would gather that a good percentage of the AIW users have digital cable or satellite.I would like to know if an IR blaster is on the horizon or not .How about it, Mr.Orr when will we see such an item?

Aug 24, 2003, 11:08 PM	#13
Stephen Orr ATI MMC Guru Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Had I been asked the question, I would have been forced to make a fairly non-descript answer. "ATI is aware that a growing percentage of ALL-IN-WONDER customers receive their TV signals via a SetTop box, however we have made no specific announcements about adding IR Blaster support to the product and as such it is not an area I can comment on". I suspect Shrink left the question out deliberately because he new it was one I could not answer... Stephen __________________ Stephen Orr Manager, Multimedia Applications ATI Technologies Inc.

Aug 25, 2003, 01:32 AM	#14
nricha2 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	There has been speculation from magazine sources such as Maximum PC,that an IR Blaster will be coming later this year.Can you comment on the validity of this.Also,is there a reason why ATI has left such an item out of its recent product offering (AIW 9600)?

Aug 25, 2003, 01:20 PM	#16
Stephen Orr ATI MMC Guru Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	ArchAngelRay is correct - I cannot comment on speculation by Maximum PCs. __________________ Stephen Orr Manager, Multimedia Applications ATI Technologies Inc. Last edited by Stephen Orr; Aug 25, 2003 at 02:15 PM.

Aug 26, 2003, 05:35 PM	#17
HD_HTPC DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Shrink, You mentioned that a solution was found for nVidia audio problems. I've looked all over this site and can not find it. I saw VIVOtheFury mention the nForce 2.45 release helped his problem, but it does not solve the one that everyone has been complaining about... Being able to hear the audio from the TV app over the digital SPDIF. Where did you see the solution? Do you or anyone else know what needs to be done, and comment on this? I'm looking into get another TV Tuner card, but any that use analog audio run into a problem over the digital SPDIF. Either while watching the TV live or while recording it. I willing to get a new AIW or other TV tuner card that will work with the nForce digital audio. I've tried rage3d and nforcershq, and no one has found a solution yet. But that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Aug 27, 2003, 03:13 PM	#18
gwierny DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	S. Orr: Are you aware of TV Tuner/Video Capture issue using ATI Radeon AIW Pro 9700 and 9800 with PAL-N standard used in Argentina and Uruguay? Is ATI planning to fix this compatibility issue ? For more information check this link at [COLOR=blue]Rage3D[/COLOR]. __________________ Asus P4C800 Deluxe PIV 2.8 Ghz HT 800 Mhz FSB 1 GB OCZ Dual Channel Optimized DDR PC-3200 High Performance [Color=Red]ATI[/Color][Color=Blue] Radeon 9700 Pro AIW[/Color] Audigy 2 Platinum Logitech MX700

Sep 1, 2003, 12:28 AM	#19
Stephen Orr ATI MMC Guru Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Yes - we were aware of this issue before your post and are working to resolve. As usualy I cannot say anything about schedules. Stephen __________________ Stephen Orr Manager, Multimedia Applications ATI Technologies Inc.