When will ATi release the next All-in-wonder videocard

peterosesbookie · Jun 18, 2004, 12:11 AM

I would love to buy a new all in wonder card (have an 8500DV) but I would like to have a card that is pretty much 4 times what I have now. I would love to have a 256MB all-in-wonder built by ati card. I am not much into games but a X800 would be lovely in an all-in-wonder card.

later

pete

p0rChM0nK3y · Jun 18, 2004, 12:18 AM

in time

Vampyromaniac · Jun 18, 2004, 07:48 AM

I'd guess 3-6 months after the regular X800

dervirus · Jun 23, 2004, 01:19 PM

think it wont be far in the future , i expect a release in juli/august

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jun 23, 2004, 03:48 PM

When it's ready....

As I understood it will have HDTV support there for the ATIâ€™s HDTV setup must be finalized first....Because of course the add-on boards and the AIW cards will likely share chipsâ€¦.

Vampyromaniac · Jun 23, 2004, 06:36 PM

if you mean an HDTV tuner, Neon, I don't think it's likely, due to the larger size of it, compared to analog.

CDsDontBurn · Jun 23, 2004, 07:26 PM

maybe the HDTV will be attached on some sort of ribbon cable attachment/add-on?

Channelsurfer · Jun 23, 2004, 09:50 PM

If you compare the card length of ATI vs nVidia, and allow for the larger phillips hdtv tuner module, it would seem possible to have an HDTV AIW.

I am a long time AIW user, but have often thought that maybe I should go with the separate video card and tuner card, mainly to allow me to keep up with the higher end graphics. Currently, I still use the AIW9700Pro that I picked up as soon as was locally available. The aiw9800 is something that I've by passed as not being enough of an upgrade.

In the near term, I hope for an update to MMC software... CM had indicated we could see something last week; the week that followed the cat4.6's... so far, all quiet, with even the reviews of the hdtv card highlighting mmc 9.0

Vampyromaniac · Jun 23, 2004, 11:24 PM

Quote:

ATI already knows that you must be asking about a DTV All-in-Wonder possibility (as we were), and they have prepared a response in their HDTV Wonder's FAQ:

...One of the most obvious reasons involves size: the HDTV tuner solution is significantly larger than the current tuner on an All-in-Wonder board. Attempting to make such a large tuner fit on an All-in-Wonder board would result in sacrificing some of the All-in-Wonder's great feature set and performance. Another reason for separating the HDTV tuner from the graphics processor is to maintain signal integrity of the digital signal. Connecting the tuner to the demodulator is a sensitive matter that is easily impacted by electrical noise...

Does this mean that with the full analog to DTV switch, All-in-Wonders will become extinct? Not likely; AIWs are still a good bread-and-butter source for ATI's multimedia team. With ATI's progression in their developments within the graphics and multimedia field, it is likely that both of these hurdles will be overcome in the future, and the full switch will be far from complete, which means that ATI still has quite a bit of time to figure things out.

peterosesbookie · Jun 24, 2004, 03:50 AM

I have waited for about 3-4 years to upgrade and I am wanting the x800 due it maybe the last one made before PCI-express

Jun 18, 2004, 12:11 AM	#1
peterosesbookie HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: OHIO Posts: 556 Rep Power: 0	When will ATi release the next All-in-wonder videocard I would love to buy a new all in wonder card (have an 8500DV) but I would like to have a card that is pretty much 4 times what I have now. I would love to have a 256MB all-in-wonder built by ati card. I am not much into games but a X800 would be lovely in an all-in-wonder card. later pete

Jun 18, 2004, 12:18 AM	#2
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Jun 18, 2004, 07:48 AM	#3
Vampyromaniac confutatis maledictis Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere dark Posts: 5,974 Rep Power: 76 System Specs	I'd guess 3-6 months after the regular X800 __________________ *Digitalis 3.3* Athlon 64 3000 // ASUS K8V SE Deluxe // 1024MB PC3200 (2-2-2-10 1T) ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Pro // 20" Dell 2005FPW (DVI) M-Audio Revo 7.1 + Philips Acoustic Edge // Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 320/16 Western Digital WD3200KS + 120/8 Seagate 7200.7 NEC ND-3550A 16x DVD±RW + Lite-On 52x24x CD-RW Antec Sonata case // 480W Antec TruePower personal bests \|\| Aq'3: 46796 \| 3D'01: 20461 \| 3D'03: 6336 \| 3D'05: 2677 \| PC'04: 4605 \| PC'02: 7691,9092,1250

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The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	When it's ready.... As I understood it will have HDTV support there for the ATIâ€™s HDTV setup must be finalized first....Because of course the add-on boards and the AIW cards will likely share chipsâ€¦. __________________

Jun 23, 2004, 06:36 PM	#6
Vampyromaniac confutatis maledictis Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere dark Posts: 5,974 Rep Power: 76 System Specs	if you mean an HDTV tuner, Neon, I don't think it's likely, due to the larger size of it, compared to analog. __________________ *Digitalis 3.3* Athlon 64 3000 // ASUS K8V SE Deluxe // 1024MB PC3200 (2-2-2-10 1T) ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Pro // 20" Dell 2005FPW (DVI) M-Audio Revo 7.1 + Philips Acoustic Edge // Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 320/16 Western Digital WD3200KS + 120/8 Seagate 7200.7 NEC ND-3550A 16x DVD±RW + Lite-On 52x24x CD-RW Antec Sonata case // 480W Antec TruePower personal bests \|\| Aq'3: 46796 \| 3D'01: 20461 \| 3D'03: 6336 \| 3D'05: 2677 \| PC'04: 4605 \| PC'02: 7691,9092,1250

Jun 23, 2004, 01:19 PM	#4
dervirus DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: far, far away in the future Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	think it wont be far in the future , i expect a release in juli/august

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Jun 23, 2004, 09:50 PM	#8
Channelsurfer DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 81 Rep Power: 0	If you compare the card length of ATI vs nVidia, and allow for the larger phillips hdtv tuner module, it would seem possible to have an HDTV AIW. I am a long time AIW user, but have often thought that maybe I should go with the separate video card and tuner card, mainly to allow me to keep up with the higher end graphics. Currently, I still use the AIW9700Pro that I picked up as soon as was locally available. The aiw9800 is something that I've by passed as not being enough of an upgrade. In the near term, I hope for an update to MMC software... CM had indicated we could see something last week; the week that followed the cat4.6's... so far, all quiet, with even the reviews of the hdtv card highlighting mmc 9.0

Jun 24, 2004, 03:50 AM	Thread Starter #10
peterosesbookie HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: OHIO Posts: 556 Rep Power: 0	I still have an 8500 AIW 8500dv I have waited for about 3-4 years to upgrade and I am wanting the x800 due it maybe the last one made before PCI-express