AIW 9600 Fuzzy/Blurry /w LCD.

Necrosis · May 25, 2005, 04:51 AM

I have a friend /w this card & a Viewsonic LCD.

The problem is as most users know when you first boot your computer up this card it appears kind distorted on screen. However, once you enter windows it clears up. The problem my friend is this is happening more, and more in windows. It just comes and goes. All updates installed, but not the most recent drivers. I think my friend is running 5.2 cats. Does any one know how to fix this? I'm trying to get an actual of picture of what it looks like.

Surgical · Jun 6, 2005, 09:29 AM

What is refresh rate set on the monitor? Try to lower it to 60Hz U will see....

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jun 6, 2005, 04:08 PM

LCD's dont have refresh rates..... so that wont matter

Is cleartype turned on and is the monitor itself calibrated? IT could also be that you're using an analog (15 pin) port rather than a DVI-I port. Check out all that stuff

Necrosis · Jun 22, 2005, 04:06 AM

I've been meaning to get back to this.

We've changed the refresh rate a few times to no avail. It could simply be an issue /w this particular LCD & card. I know the LCD works fine /w an analog signal though. I really need to get a CRT there, and run that for awhile to see if it does it.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jun 22, 2005, 03:50 PM

If it works fine with an analog signal, there are 2 possibilities:

1. The digital image processor is messed, and that is placed on the core of ATI cards so overclocking *may* have something to do with that
2. The digital cable is bad.

If it works fine on an analog signal, the degredation in quality would not be outweighed by it actually working, would it?

Necrosis · Jun 22, 2005, 05:50 PM

My friend's card only has the analog out on it. So that is all that's even been used. I used to own the LCD, and never had any problems /w the analog or digital input. I think either it's some grounding issue /w the cables or the card itself is going bad.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jun 23, 2005, 04:52 PM

Grounding wouldn't cause that much of an issue unless the power was really dirty.

Tried a power filter?

Necrosis · Jun 23, 2005, 05:32 PM

I don't mean grounding with power but with actual video cable itself. There maybe some interference getting through. However, I really don't think that is truly the case since.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jun 23, 2005, 05:45 PM

A power filter may help though. Helped my CRT using a DVI-I cable alot.

swimtech · Jun 24, 2005, 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Necrosis

I've been meaning to get back to this.

We've changed the refresh rate a few times to no avail. It could simply be an issue /w this particular LCD & card. I know the LCD works fine /w an analog signal though. I really need to get a CRT there, and run that for awhile to see if it does it.

That's definitely the ticket...

Does it still come and go?

Necrosis · Jun 24, 2005, 10:42 PM

My friend is going to get an extra CRT from her family, and see how it does.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jun 25, 2005, 08:45 PM

It should do fine if another monitor didn't have that problem, meaning its either the monitor itself or the cable for that monitor.

Doubt its the card....the card would show other signs of damage if it was that, and blurring text is more a monitor issue....if the card was dying it would show artifacts and such I think.

Necrosis · Jun 25, 2005, 08:51 PM

I'm tending to lean towards the monitor quite a bit myself. The LCD is about 3 and half years old. Talking with my friend further normally it's fine but it's mainly when she reboots and/or boots up cold. After a hour or so it goes back to normal, but she has to switch refresh rates a couple times to make sure it will work.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jun 25, 2005, 08:53 PM

Switching refresh rates shouldn't have an effect because as I'm sure you know....LCD's don't "refresh:....if thats the case then its likely the cable transmitting a "false" signal....changing the refresh rate only gives the monitor a different signal but should not have an effect on the image

Necrosis · Jun 25, 2005, 08:59 PM

Hmm I can change the refresh rate on my LCD. The thing is I'm wondering if the "dongle" for the card isn't causing it?

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jun 25, 2005, 09:09 PM

I know you can change it but that doesn't physically affect the monitor in anyway, just the signal thats delivered to it.

The dongle doesn't cause problems in my experience but why would you need it? You should be using a DVI-I cable for the digital signal it provides, because LCD's are digital and digital signals are far better on them

Necrosis · Jun 25, 2005, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H3X4D3C1M4L

I know you can change it but that doesn't physically affect the monitor in anyway, just the signal thats delivered to it.

The dongle doesn't cause problems in my experience but why would you need it? You should be using a DVI-I cable for the digital signal it provides, because LCD's are digital and digital signals are far better on them

The dongle I'm talking about is that black cable. I'm just wondering with it getting moved around, if it's not the monitor that might be the issue. You'll see it only has the dual analog connection.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jun 25, 2005, 10:30 PM

Your AiW 9600 should have a DVI port :| :| :|

Necrosis · Jun 26, 2005, 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H3X4D3C1M4L

Your AiW 9600 should have a DVI port :| :| :|

Well it doesn't, and I wish it did because that would be what my friend would be using.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jun 26, 2005, 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Necrosis

I have a friend /w this card & a Viewsonic LCD.

The problem is as most users know when you first boot your computer up this card it appears kind distorted on screen. However, once you enter windows it clears up. The problem my friend is this is happening more, and more in windows. It just comes and goes. All updates installed, but not the most recent drivers. I think my friend is running 5.2 cats. Does any one know how to fix this? I'm trying to get an actual of picture of what it looks like.

Try to take screen shots and see if it could verry well be a hardware problem

Necrosis · Jun 26, 2005, 07:16 AM

Hmm I honestly did think about that. I've been trying to get her to take a picture of with her digi-cam.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jun 27, 2005, 05:13 AM

Taking a screen shot would be a good idea though because it takes it from the display buffer, so if that image has a problem you know its the card.

May 25, 2005, 04:51 AM	#1
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	AIW 9600 Fuzzy/Blurry /w LCD. I have a friend /w this card & a Viewsonic LCD. The problem is as most users know when you first boot your computer up this card it appears kind distorted on screen. However, once you enter windows it clears up. The problem my friend is this is happening more, and more in windows. It just comes and goes. All updates installed, but not the most recent drivers. I think my friend is running 5.2 cats. Does any one know how to fix this? I'm trying to get an actual of picture of what it looks like.

Jun 6, 2005, 09:29 AM	#2
Surgical DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 23 Rep Power: 0	What is refresh rate set on the monitor? Try to lower it to 60Hz U will see.... __________________ My rig: A64 Venice 3000+ @ 2700MHz (aka >4000+ ) DFI Lanparty NF4-UltraD 1024MB RAM Ati Sapphire Radeon X850XT 256MB RAM SB Audigy2 with Audigy2 Drive 3x MAXTOR 250GB S-ATA DVD-RAM,R,RW LG-4160B

Jun 6, 2005, 04:08 PM	#3
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	LCD's dont have refresh rates..... so that wont matter Is cleartype turned on and is the monitor itself calibrated? IT could also be that you're using an analog (15 pin) port rather than a DVI-I port. Check out all that stuff

Jun 22, 2005, 04:06 AM	Thread Starter #4
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	I've been meaning to get back to this. We've changed the refresh rate a few times to no avail. It could simply be an issue /w this particular LCD & card. I know the LCD works fine /w an analog signal though. I really need to get a CRT there, and run that for awhile to see if it does it.

Jun 22, 2005, 03:50 PM	#5
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	If it works fine with an analog signal, there are 2 possibilities: 1. The digital image processor is messed, and that is placed on the core of ATI cards so overclocking may have something to do with that 2. The digital cable is bad. If it works fine on an analog signal, the degredation in quality would not be outweighed by it actually working, would it?

Jun 22, 2005, 05:50 PM	Thread Starter #6
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	My friend's card only has the analog out on it. So that is all that's even been used. I used to own the LCD, and never had any problems /w the analog or digital input. I think either it's some grounding issue /w the cables or the card itself is going bad.

Jun 23, 2005, 04:52 PM	#7
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Grounding wouldn't cause that much of an issue unless the power was really dirty. Tried a power filter?

Jun 23, 2005, 05:32 PM	Thread Starter #8
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	I don't mean grounding with power but with actual video cable itself. There maybe some interference getting through. However, I really don't think that is truly the case since.

Jun 23, 2005, 05:45 PM	#9
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	A power filter may help though. Helped my CRT using a DVI-I cable alot.

Jun 24, 2005, 10:42 PM	Thread Starter #11
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	My friend is going to get an extra CRT from her family, and see how it does.

Jun 25, 2005, 08:45 PM	#12
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	It should do fine if another monitor didn't have that problem, meaning its either the monitor itself or the cable for that monitor. Doubt its the card....the card would show other signs of damage if it was that, and blurring text is more a monitor issue....if the card was dying it would show artifacts and such I think.

Jun 25, 2005, 08:51 PM	Thread Starter #13
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	I'm tending to lean towards the monitor quite a bit myself. The LCD is about 3 and half years old. Talking with my friend further normally it's fine but it's mainly when she reboots and/or boots up cold. After a hour or so it goes back to normal, but she has to switch refresh rates a couple times to make sure it will work.

Jun 25, 2005, 08:53 PM	#14
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Switching refresh rates shouldn't have an effect because as I'm sure you know....LCD's don't "refresh:....if thats the case then its likely the cable transmitting a "false" signal....changing the refresh rate only gives the monitor a different signal but should not have an effect on the image

Jun 25, 2005, 08:59 PM	Thread Starter #15
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Hmm I can change the refresh rate on my LCD. The thing is I'm wondering if the "dongle" for the card isn't causing it?

Jun 25, 2005, 09:09 PM	#16
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	I know you can change it but that doesn't physically affect the monitor in anyway, just the signal thats delivered to it. The dongle doesn't cause problems in my experience but why would you need it? You should be using a DVI-I cable for the digital signal it provides, because LCD's are digital and digital signals are far better on them

Jun 25, 2005, 10:30 PM	#18
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Your AiW 9600 should have a DVI port :\| :\| :\|

Jun 26, 2005, 07:16 AM	Thread Starter #21
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Hmm I honestly did think about that. I've been trying to get her to take a picture of with her digi-cam.

Jun 27, 2005, 05:13 AM	#22
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Taking a screen shot would be a good idea though because it takes it from the display buffer, so if that image has a problem you know its the card.