Horrible Speeds! For the love of Christ...

Damaged1991 · Jul 19, 2005, 08:42 AM

So, I recently purchased this A-I-W 9800 Pro from eBay, I'm not stupid when it comes to computers and his thing was brand new, even the remote was still in the package.

So, I took it out and checked it...

Yeah, it had some tiny tale-tell dusty spots on the I/O guard, but other than that, looked fine. The previous owner even had installed an Artic Cooler on it. It was looking like one hellava buy for 160 bucks.

I got it installed and working, the Remote, everything worked flawlessly.

Then came the driver issues.

I have 5.6 Omega's installed, and I ran Half-Life 2... Now I may sound stupid saying this, but I couldn't get a FPS count to show, so I can't say exactly what I got. But even with all the setting thrown on the lowest it can go and it's still running choppy (Like 12fps choppy...)? I think we might have a slight problem...

The TV tuning program is shot now too. Won't start. And it's all out of sync. Wow. What a day.

Can anyone help me out? I don't have any basis of comparison for any other game, but a freakin' AIW 9800 Pro with optimal cooling? RUNNING LIKE COMPLETE HELL? I'm out of ideas. It's almost 1 and my brain is fried from dealing with this peice of machinery for the past 8 hours.

Someone, anyone, give me some feedback!

Mr cairo · Jul 19, 2005, 09:01 AM

try using driver cleaner and follow the instructions for reinstalling the drivers

also did you compleatly uninstall the drivers from the old card before installing this new card

grab driver cleaner and try a clean driver install first http://www.drivercleaner.net/

Damaged1991 · Jul 19, 2005, 09:06 AM

Oh and... Here are the specifications of my system:

OS: Windows XP Pro w/ SP 2
CPU: Amd 1800+ OCed 2.0ghz
MB: MSI KT4V7
RAM: 1.5 Gig (512 X3) Hynix PC2700
Sound: CWave Media (Some cheap-ass card)
HD: Maxtor 12G, Samsung 80G, Seagate 20G
CD-R/RW/DVD: LG Corp. something or other...
Video card: ATI 128MB All-in-Wonder 9800 Pro
NIC: D-Link Wireless Xtreme+

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jul 19, 2005, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damaged1991

Yeah, it had some tiny tale-tell dusty spots on the I/O guard, but other than that, looked fine. The previous owner even had installed an Artic Cooler on it. It was looking like one hellava buy for 160 bucks.

Thing being in the wraper means nothing for example I have my own cables and so when
I buy a motherboard and use if for how ever long when I sell it. I clean it and put it back
in the box looks "brand new" cables sealed and all that then I sell it on ebay as used...
So the remote being sealed just means the previous owner didn't use it or used a universal.

The dust and new cooler tell you righ there is't not new and used for god knows
how long. Sounds like they bought it and overclocked it, Or had it long enough that
the fan died.

Far as you know it a 9800pro flashed and overclocked to 9800XT, part of the dangers
/risks of buying on ebay.

But if everything seem fine it should be all right. AIW cards are slower then thier non
AIW cousins. Also your system has a big bottle neck for that card the 1800+ (1.53 GHZ)CPU + the PC2700.

install something like rage3d tweak / ATI tool & see what the cards clocked at...
Look whats the all the numbers/letters off the ram as well as the brand...
Whats the part number printed on the card?, Who made the card ATI or 3rd party?

Damaged1991 · Jul 19, 2005, 11:16 AM

They're at stock speeds. Core - 382, Mem- 337.

It's an official ATi card.

:/

I got everthing working, and it works fine. But Half-Life 2 still runs like crap. And I have npo clue what to do about it...

Oh, and SmartGart won't keep it's settings. I'm guessing that's a bad thing...

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jul 19, 2005, 02:04 PM

Stock is not 382, its 378.

I bet you the card was voltmodded or something (Hence the AC), burnt out, then sold for a cheap price.

Damaged1991 · Jul 20, 2005, 11:29 AM

I messed it up. You got it. The Stock voltages I mean. ATiTool?

So anyway... I cleaned out the stuff, and I let indows install it, and then installed the Omega Drivers.

Everything runs fine.

Half Life 2 still lags in some areas... Bottle neck?

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jul 20, 2005, 04:37 PM

Depends on the rest of your system

If HL2 lags its more likely Valve's stupid patching. I used to get stutters on an X800XT until I adjusted my PCI video card latency

Damaged1991 · Jul 20, 2005, 09:36 PM

Hmmmm... Do you think I'll have that problem on my AIW?

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jul 20, 2005, 10:01 PM

Its very possible. I had it on mine. AiW's are no different or less sensitive to those kind of things than any other card is what I find.

Jitter · Jul 20, 2005, 10:29 PM

Do you know of any articles comparing all in wonders to standard cards? Ive always wondered if there was a difference because i have an AIW9700 pro.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jul 20, 2005, 10:44 PM

Off the top of my head I know Rage3D compares the AiW X800XT to an AiW 9800 Pro, but if you want a quick and easy rule for comparing them: Its the exact same except it includes a TV tuner and all the in/out gear. Other than that the retail package has a Remote Wonder but so far as that, thats essentially the only difference (Other than sometimes only having 1 monitor out port)

Necrosis · Jul 21, 2005, 01:46 AM

I'm a little curious what card did you have before? Also do you have any other problems /w other games?

Damaged1991 · Jul 21, 2005, 04:18 AM

I have a XFX 5600, I had no problems with it. I was Running Omega drivers. I could play half life 2 better with it, than the AIW :/

Jul 19, 2005, 08:42 AM	#1
Damaged1991 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orbiting Mars Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	Horrible Speeds! For the love of Christ... So, I recently purchased this A-I-W 9800 Pro from eBay, I'm not stupid when it comes to computers and his thing was brand new, even the remote was still in the package. So, I took it out and checked it... Yeah, it had some tiny tale-tell dusty spots on the I/O guard, but other than that, looked fine. The previous owner even had installed an Artic Cooler on it. It was looking like one hellava buy for 160 bucks. I got it installed and working, the Remote, everything worked flawlessly. Then came the driver issues. I have 5.6 Omega's installed, and I ran Half-Life 2... Now I may sound stupid saying this, but I couldn't get a FPS count to show, so I can't say exactly what I got. But even with all the setting thrown on the lowest it can go and it's still running choppy (Like 12fps choppy...)? I think we might have a slight problem... The TV tuning program is shot now too. Won't start. And it's all out of sync. Wow. What a day. Can anyone help me out? I don't have any basis of comparison for any other game, but a freakin' AIW 9800 Pro with optimal cooling? RUNNING LIKE COMPLETE HELL? I'm out of ideas. It's almost 1 and my brain is fried from dealing with this peice of machinery for the past 8 hours. Someone, anyone, give me some feedback! Last edited by Damaged1991; Jul 19, 2005 at 08:51 AM.

Jul 19, 2005, 09:01 AM	#2
Mr cairo F0rum For Humans Only Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Slightly to the left Posts: 1,777 Rep Power: 89 System Specs	try using driver cleaner and follow the instructions for reinstalling the drivers also did you compleatly uninstall the drivers from the old card before installing this new card grab driver cleaner and try a clean driver install first http://www.drivercleaner.net/ __________________

Jul 20, 2005, 10:29 PM	#11
Jitter HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 534 Rep Power: 0	Do you know of any articles comparing all in wonders to standard cards? Ive always wondered if there was a difference because i have an AIW9700 pro. __________________ Sony Vaio PCV-RX670 P4 1.8ghz XP Pro SP2 1 GB PC2100 RAM ATI All in Wonder 9700 pro Audigy 2 ZS Aquamark ~29,500 3dMark03 ~ 5,000

Jul 19, 2005, 09:06 AM	Thread Starter #3
Damaged1991 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orbiting Mars Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	Oh and... Here are the specifications of my system: OS: Windows XP Pro w/ SP 2 CPU: Amd 1800+ OCed 2.0ghz MB: MSI KT4V7 RAM: 1.5 Gig (512 X3) Hynix PC2700 Sound: CWave Media (Some cheap-ass card) HD: Maxtor 12G, Samsung 80G, Seagate 20G CD-R/RW/DVD: LG Corp. something or other... Video card: ATI 128MB All-in-Wonder 9800 Pro NIC: D-Link Wireless Xtreme+

Jul 19, 2005, 11:16 AM	Thread Starter #5
Damaged1991 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orbiting Mars Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	They're at stock speeds. Core - 382, Mem- 337. It's an official ATi card. :/ I got everthing working, and it works fine. But Half-Life 2 still runs like crap. And I have npo clue what to do about it... Oh, and SmartGart won't keep it's settings. I'm guessing that's a bad thing...

Jul 19, 2005, 02:04 PM	#6
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Stock is not 382, its 378. I bet you the card was voltmodded or something (Hence the AC), burnt out, then sold for a cheap price.

Jul 20, 2005, 11:29 AM	Thread Starter #7
Damaged1991 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orbiting Mars Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	I messed it up. You got it. The Stock voltages I mean. ATiTool? So anyway... I cleaned out the stuff, and I let indows install it, and then installed the Omega Drivers. Everything runs fine. Half Life 2 still lags in some areas... Bottle neck?

Jul 20, 2005, 04:37 PM	#8
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Depends on the rest of your system If HL2 lags its more likely Valve's stupid patching. I used to get stutters on an X800XT until I adjusted my PCI video card latency

Jul 20, 2005, 09:36 PM	Thread Starter #9
Damaged1991 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orbiting Mars Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	Hmmmm... Do you think I'll have that problem on my AIW?

Jul 20, 2005, 10:01 PM	#10
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Its very possible. I had it on mine. AiW's are no different or less sensitive to those kind of things than any other card is what I find.

Jul 20, 2005, 10:44 PM	#12
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Off the top of my head I know Rage3D compares the AiW X800XT to an AiW 9800 Pro, but if you want a quick and easy rule for comparing them: Its the exact same except it includes a TV tuner and all the in/out gear. Other than that the retail package has a Remote Wonder but so far as that, thats essentially the only difference (Other than sometimes only having 1 monitor out port)

Jul 21, 2005, 01:46 AM	#13
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	I'm a little curious what card did you have before? Also do you have any other problems /w other games?

Jul 21, 2005, 04:18 AM	Thread Starter #14
Damaged1991 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orbiting Mars Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	I have a XFX 5600, I had no problems with it. I was Running Omega drivers. I could play half life 2 better with it, than the AIW :/