Come on ATI.. Little more work on the AIW series please.

Max_C · Dec 21, 2005, 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Learnin'

Thanks for joining the maddening crowd Max_C ! I am not feeling adventurous enough to try the OmegaDrivers just now but if you or anyone else gives it a go please let us know how things turn out !

OK, I really hate jinxing myself, but I'm going to go ahead and post my results. Last night I couldn't view TV for more than about 5 minutes on my AIW X600 Pro without the program locking up. I tried the OmegaDrivers solution when I got home today, but no luck. As was indicated, those drivers are really geared for making the card run games better. They have nothing to do with the MMC software. Today I got an email from ATI saying to go to the following URL and follow the instructions exactly.

http://www.ati.com/install

After following all of the instructions to the letter, I'm now going on 1 hour viewing TV and no lock ups so far. In fact, I'm watching "ThruView" as I type this reply.

So, here's what I did:

- followed the directions above for manual removal of all ATI software, drivers and registry entries, making sure to reboot as indicated.
- Installed the latest version of Direct X
- Installed the latest version of .NET
- Installed the latest driver package with the Catalyst Control Center
- Installed the DAO/MDAC file
- Installed the ATI DVD Decoder, following the instructions outlined on subsequent pages of the above link.
- Installed the latest ATI Multimedia CenterBasically I just did what the links told me to do. So far, so good. I'm going to test scheduled recording tonight. I hope some of that will be of use to someone here.

Max.

Judas · Dec 21, 2005, 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max_C

OK, I really hate jinxing myself, but I'm going to go ahead and post my results. Last night I couldn't view TV for more than about 5 minutes on my AIW X600 Pro without the program locking up. I tried the OmegaDrivers solution when I got home today, but no luck. As was indicated, those drivers are really geared for making the card run games better. They have nothing to do with the MMC software. Today I got an email from ATI saying to go to the following URL and follow the instructions exactly.

http://www.ati.com/install

After following all of the instructions to the letter, I'm now going on 1 hour viewing TV and no lock ups so far. In fact, I'm watching "ThruView" as I type this reply.

So, here's what I did:

- followed the directions above for manual removal of all ATI software, drivers and registry entries, making sure to reboot as indicated.
- Installed the latest version of Direct X
- Installed the latest version of .NET
- Installed the latest driver package with the Catalyst Control Center
- Installed the DAO/MDAC file
- Installed the ATI DVD Decoder, following the instructions outlined on subsequent pages of the above link.
- Installed the latest ATI Multimedia CenterBasically I just did what the links told me to do. So far, so good. I'm going to test scheduled recording tonight. I hope some of that will be of use to someone here.

Max.

yeah, running through the proper installation preceedures helps a pile

But it doesn't solve the problem for me... as i do the above All the time... Format .. and do the installations...

Rebooting after each and defragging in some cases..

H3X4D3C1M4L · Dec 21, 2005, 10:22 PM

Infact that DAO/MDAC thing buggers up my Roxio Easy Media Creator, I get a Windows installer box every time I run it asking for DAO.MSI

GuyLevin · Dec 22, 2005, 04:29 PM

hi,
I am back after a day trying.
Removed all the old drivers.
Installed the 5.13 (out yesterday) catalyst...
Installed in the correct order all the other fun things.
DIDN'T WORK - Video in is still corrupted (In fast movement video is bad) seems like it doesn't sample the video correctly.
This was my fix:
I have AMD XP 2600+ (2Ghz). In my bios it was set to 166Mhz X 12.5 Multipler (2075).
I have read that the ATI needs 200Mhz base freq. So I changed it to 200Mhz x 10 Multiplier.
That fixed my video in.
Will try now to see if the 3D works good too.
Thank you
Guy

kbuzzard · Dec 22, 2005, 05:43 PM

HEY !!! H3X4D3C1M4L, installing ROXIO EMCv8 is what CRASHED my "Former" working CAT 5.10 AIW setup, my HDD was so scrambled that it wouldn't boot AND when I used it as a "G" drive to re-coop data, "It could not even be read !!". NO more Roxio for me. ALL my forum entries (kbuzzard) were posted in attempts to use XP SP2 on clean install after. In Retrospect, My XP SP1 was upgraded to SP2 status as was DX9 to 9c etc and IT ALL WORKED GREAT. XP SP2 won't allow this(for Me and abvious many others). Roxio v8 caused Me MONTHS of grief, I type this as warning as I have lately noticed others with Roxio DAO/MDAC issues. Now the miracle CAT 5.13's are out, I requested "Strongly" to Mr X at ATI,btw.. He called ME, to get them to add corrective AIW WDM patches or NOTES with the CAT 5.13 release, His (their) responce was WE are the noisy MINORITY who don't work and since the majority apparently DO work, They aren't interested in addressing IT !!.I add this entry "IN HOPES" it catches a keen eye. As noted previous, it doesn't matter what CAT / Omega Display Drivers you use BUT !!! if you have an AIW

. In NOT agreeing with Mr X at ATI, AIW's are" NOT" compatible with SP2, somone prove THEY ARE and link me to the install data, address that proves it. You CAN get lucky. NOTE, MoBo BIOS has NO effect either Mr X and NO, I'm not turning off my HT feature, Just fix your WDM and maybe DAO/MDAC Drivers for us AIW suckers. ATI ACTUALLY feels We non-working AIW owners and trying to be USERS are a "NOISY" MINORITY problem and evidently not important to their CUSTOMER or Future customer base, I worldn't know, I won't be a future AIW BUYER, if thats how they feel about it. HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL - P.S. Don't give any friends or relatives an ATI AIW for Christmas, lol, HoHoHo............ btw, SP1, forced wdm_sp on CAT 4.10 set with MMC 9.02, no Roxio, working GREAT. Been Capturing TV with shceduler regularly and mpeg4 captures are super, NFSU / U2 /Most Wanted / Colin McRae's also just FINE.

, NO thanks to ATI but to Users like YOU

Judas · Dec 22, 2005, 05:53 PM

if i had enough money to fly to ati headquarters with my machine... i'd be happy to show them the problems... may take a few days though...

kbuzzard · Dec 22, 2005, 06:07 PM

Yea JUDAS, Mr X @ ATI says "They can't reproduce OUR issues at their facilities, They prob have Tweaked SP2 Metwork installs and WON'T happen there !!!!

Just Learnin' · Dec 22, 2005, 07:33 PM

Take my rig with you too Judas, might as well spend the month there!!! Hehehe........

Judas · Dec 22, 2005, 08:00 PM

heh..... since i'm so good at finding anything wrong with any product.... i may as well live there in ati's headquaters playing games..... running various software... watching tv.. and giving several suggestions...

woot... ATI... hire me!

Just Learnin' · Dec 22, 2005, 08:41 PM

@ Max C, Still stable?Could you tell us if you have Service Pack 2 installed and what Mobo/CPU you have? Perhaps what soundcard as well please? Thanks!!

All the best -Pete

PandaZ3 · Dec 23, 2005, 05:41 AM

I will just use mine in a NFII board as a Video card....get something out of it.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Dec 24, 2005, 01:26 AM

Hehe I live close to ATI HQ... I'll take my rig in and show them what kind of problems there are.

PandaZ3 · Dec 24, 2005, 02:43 AM

I changed my sig to reflect my first real departure from ATI Radeon cards. I was hesitant to change as I liked to be able to allow the cards to trickle down and use the same drivers. My reasons for the switch, were my first move to a PCI-e card, (Obviously there will be nowtPCI-e card trickle down to machines that have a AGP solution), Dissatisfaction with a AIW card. Finally, I think Nvidia has the current edge.

I think the switch to PCI-e was a BIG step for me, driven primarily by the availability of good solutions in motherboards. Good AGP solutions are scarce. While I do think Nvidia to be the current leader, it would not have been enough to drive me to the "Dark Side" not by itself andway. I edged over there because of the lack of support for a AIW card. Reasoned or petty, it doesn't matter now.

kbuzzard · Dec 24, 2005, 02:45 AM

BOY, I would love to go too. F.Y.I. I DL'd and extracted WDM Drivers for CAT 2.5/3.5/4.10/4.11 to a folder tonight and NONE of them have WDM_NSP drivers. I was able to do that with 7zip BUT 4.12 and up I can't and I KNOW for a fact that CAT 4.12 has NSP stuff. This is probably no news to you. By the way, CAT 5.13 WDM Install notes mentions this and gives the FIX, but that fix seems to have NOT worked for anyome yet. read CAT 5.13 WDM notes and my additions on this note
December 9, 2005

ATI WDM Driver Release Note CAT 5.13 ***********************************

These release notes provide information for ATI's Windows Driver Model (WDM) versions 4.07 and 8.20. >v4.07 ( WDM_SP) and v8.20 (WDM_NSP)
Desktop product family support

The ATI WDM driver is a series of drivers used to enable the capture and TV tuner features on VIVO boards, and the All-in-Wonder® series of cards produced by ATI Technologies Inc.

The ATI WDM Driver Install bundle contains both the ATI WDM Driver 4.07 and 8.20. The setup program automatically detects the graphic adapter installed in your system and installs the appropriate ATI WDM components for the graphic adapter. The WDM version 8.20 will install on:

* All-in-Wonder® X1800 Series " WDM_NSP - MY NOTES, kbuzzard"
* All-in-Wonder® X800 Series "
* All-in-Wonder® X600 Series "
* All-in-Wonder® 9800 Series "
* All-in-Wonder® 9700 Series "
* All-in-Wonder® 9600 Series "

The ATI WDM driver version 4.07 will install on:

* Radeon® 9200 series or earlier All-in-Wonder® products " WDM_SP - MY Notes kbuzzard"
* ATI VIVO products

TV Player Failed To Initialize Video, running ATI Multimedia Center

Some ATI display drivers will not recognize or function with the software contained in tv-capture-wdm-4-07-6246v3-5-01-6300.exe. If you experience problems with your TV or Capture application be sure to install the recommended ATI Display driver for your ATI graphic card.

If problems continue and you are using the recommended ATI display driver for your ATI graphic card, follow these steps:

1. Go to the DEVICE MANAGER.
2. Double-click the Sound, Video and game controller and ensure all the ATI WDM components listed below are present and functioning properly. For the ATI WDM version 4.07 (6246) the component list consists of:
* ATI WDM Specialized PCD Codec
* ATI WDM Rage Theater Audio
* ATI WDM Rage Theater Video " > THIS WORKS XP SP1 "when forced" * *******NOTE 6-14-10-6246 IS CAT 4.11 WDM !! - My Notes kbuzzard"******
* ATI WDM TV Audio Crossbar
* ATI WDM TV Tuner ATI SAYING IF 5.13 won't work USE CAT 4.11's
* ATI WDM Specialized MVD
For the ATI WDM version 8.20 the component list consists of: *** CAT 4.12's #6246v3 kbuzzard * ATI WDM Specialized PCD Codec
* ATI WDM Rage Theater Audio
* ATI WDM Rage Theater Video NSP >>>>>> OUR BUDDY

* ATI WDM TV Audio Crossbar
* ATI WDM TV Tuner
* ATI WDM Specialized MVD Codec

H3X4D3C1M4L · Dec 24, 2005, 02:56 AM

Either way, if we can do all this stuff to get a fix, we shouldn't have to... I mean what if someone just wants to use the fkn card rather then spend hours trying to fix it?

kbuzzard · Dec 24, 2005, 03:01 AM

I'm really sorry my post got so long, lol

, BUT it does SAY, CAT 5.13 WDMs doesn't work "TRY"

to install CAT 4.11sWDMs, GREAT. Geez this Sux

H3X4D3C1M4L · Dec 25, 2005, 12:45 AM

I hope ATI put working AiW drivers under my Christmas tree

PandaZ3 · Dec 25, 2005, 01:16 AM

I'm putting mine in a EPoX NFII board today, just the display drivers, then it hit me, I might try it with Win Me. That's a solution! .... a little to much EggNog maybe

H3X4D3C1M4L · Dec 25, 2005, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PandaZ3

I'm putting mine in a EPoX NFII board today, just the display drivers, then it hit me, I might try it with Win Me. That's a solution! .... a little to much EggNog maybe

Haha I think you have a little too much of something else in that egg nog

That egg nog would have to be at least 100 proof for you to think of that

PandaZ3 · Dec 25, 2005, 07:38 PM

Some sanity returned.

I am installing Suse linux rihgt now, I'll just use it as best I can.

PoopyTheJ · Dec 26, 2005, 11:14 PM

I can't make any guarantees as we don;t have an AIW beta tester however our VIVO owners have not had any problems with the DHzer0point Drivers if someone would like to let me know if they'd like to beta test and/or try out our public release of the 5.13's it'd be nice to have a solid modded set for the AIW owners...

H3X4D3C1M4L · Dec 27, 2005, 04:48 AM

Would you possibly be able to include an option for analog / digital WDM's in the ZP drivers?

I guarantee you alot of AiW users would soon be switching to ZP drivers, myself included

kbuzzard · Dec 29, 2005, 05:46 AM

ZP drivers with WDM_ options, hummm, HELP US. Update, CAT 5.13 WDM_ drivers for SP on AIW 9200 and down is actually the current WIN 2000 WDM's, interesting, NO SP2 or MCE stuff on Win2k.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Dec 29, 2005, 05:19 PM

Hey PoopyTheJ, you need an AiW beta tester? Where do I sign up

?

Just Learnin' · Dec 29, 2005, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H3X4D3C1M4L

Hey PoopyTheJ, you need an AiW beta tester? Where do I sign up

?

Pick me, Pick me!!!!!

H3X4D3C1M4L · Dec 31, 2005, 07:40 AM

Wow something like 2000+ views on this thread

Judas · Dec 31, 2005, 10:13 AM

yeah..... we need more input from people that use these AIW's.... and even TV cards from ATI...

seriously, all of us pointing out the apparent bugs, giving suggestions that ATI should be looking at carefully, as we are the users....

kbuzzard · Dec 31, 2005, 03:56 PM

ATI AIW folks, READ THIS. Being bored today I took a Cloned hdd of my working XP SP1,DX9c,CAT 5.10 DD,"Forced WDM_SP correct,MMC9.06 set-up and in playing installed as "Upgrade" a copy of "Unattended SP3" !!!, and Guess WHAT, hummm, now my WDM_SP video drivers in Device Manager have been CHANGED to WDM_NSP

S.O.B.

NOTE, there was NO driver changes per say. Interesting because EVEN when I forced WDM_SP into XP SP2 it ALWAYS installed as WDM_NSP or yellow caution and failed the TV stuff. I AM running the TV now to see if it crashes because it is RUNNING OK, so far. This is interesting as it HAS the NOTED delay in changing channels with the audio stutter, FOLKS, from where I sit, It looks like our OS is causing this, Maybe ATI drivers are being side tracked by Microsoft. You comments more than welcome. Fortunately this is a cloned copy and sublect to Format and try something else. I will report on NFSMW play later on. Oh YEA, HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL !!!!!!!!!!.

Sorry, my setup. Asus P4P800 Deluxe / 3ghz HT 800 / 1gig Kingston hyperX PC-4000 / on-board audio biosed out,using Turtle Beach Santa Cruz / ATI 9600 Pro AIW. 3 external SATA Maxtor 120/8meg Cache,Channel 1 as "C" 2 as Clone or "G". Plex Px-708A & Lite-On SOHW-832S DVDR's in Antec Sonata MM Casew/ 450w PS.

Judas · Dec 31, 2005, 07:28 PM

hmm... no... cause i've been running SP2 windows XP Pro for ages..... and the first few dozen months i had my AIW.... i never had a problem....

but it's possible... i won't say it's a complete NO....

PoopyTheJ · Dec 31, 2005, 08:28 PM

Anyone interested in Beta testing please shoot me a PM.

Dec 22, 2005, 04:29 PM	#64
GuyLevin DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Fixed One Prob - Video In is good hi, I am back after a day trying. Removed all the old drivers. Installed the 5.13 (out yesterday) catalyst... Installed in the correct order all the other fun things. DIDN'T WORK - Video in is still corrupted (In fast movement video is bad) seems like it doesn't sample the video correctly. This was my fix: I have AMD XP 2600+ (2Ghz). In my bios it was set to 166Mhz X 12.5 Multipler (2075). I have read that the ATI needs 200Mhz base freq. So I changed it to 200Mhz x 10 Multiplier. That fixed my video in. Will try now to see if the 3D works good too. Thank you Guy

Dec 22, 2005, 05:43 PM	#65
kbuzzard DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Buford, Georgia Posts: 83 Rep Power: 0	HEY !!! H3X4D3C1M4L, installing ROXIO EMCv8 is what CRASHED my "Former" working CAT 5.10 AIW setup, my HDD was so scrambled that it wouldn't boot AND when I used it as a "G" drive to re-coop data, "It could not even be read !!". NO more Roxio for me. ALL my forum entries (kbuzzard) were posted in attempts to use XP SP2 on clean install after. In Retrospect, My XP SP1 was upgraded to SP2 status as was DX9 to 9c etc and IT ALL WORKED GREAT. XP SP2 won't allow this(for Me and abvious many others). Roxio v8 caused Me MONTHS of grief, I type this as warning as I have lately noticed others with Roxio DAO/MDAC issues. Now the miracle CAT 5.13's are out, I requested "Strongly" to Mr X at ATI,btw.. He called ME, to get them to add corrective AIW WDM patches or NOTES with the CAT 5.13 release, His (their) responce was WE are the noisy MINORITY who don't work and since the majority apparently DO work, They aren't interested in addressing IT !!.I add this entry "IN HOPES" it catches a keen eye. As noted previous, it doesn't matter what CAT / Omega Display Drivers you use BUT !!! if you have an AIW . In NOT agreeing with Mr X at ATI, AIW's are" NOT" compatible with SP2, somone prove THEY ARE and link me to the install data, address that proves it. You CAN get lucky. NOTE, MoBo BIOS has NO effect either Mr X and NO, I'm not turning off my HT feature, Just fix your WDM and maybe DAO/MDAC Drivers for us AIW suckers. ATI ACTUALLY feels We non-working AIW owners and trying to be USERS are a "NOISY" MINORITY problem and evidently not important to their CUSTOMER or Future customer base, I worldn't know, I won't be a future AIW BUYER, if thats how they feel about it. HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL - P.S. Don't give any friends or relatives an ATI AIW for Christmas, lol, HoHoHo............ btw, SP1, forced wdm_sp on CAT 4.10 set with MMC 9.02, no Roxio, working GREAT. Been Capturing TV with shceduler regularly and mpeg4 captures are super, NFSU / U2 /Most Wanted / Colin McRae's also just FINE. , NO thanks to ATI but to Users like YOU Last edited by kbuzzard; Dec 22, 2005 at 05:59 PM.

Dec 23, 2005, 05:41 AM	#71
PandaZ3 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cornelius, Oregon Posts: 417 Rep Power: 0	I will just use mine in a NFII board as a Video card....get something out of it. __________________ It has to be Plugged In? To electricity? Video cards in house, 5770, 4650, HD 3870, X1950 XTX, X1900 XTX, X1900 XT and X1900 Crossfire, 2 X1800 XT's, X850 Pro, X800 Pro, AIW 9600XT, 9600 Pro, 9550 SE, 9200, 7000. XFX 6800 GS

Dec 24, 2005, 02:43 AM	#73
PandaZ3 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cornelius, Oregon Posts: 417 Rep Power: 0	I changed my sig to reflect my first real departure from ATI Radeon cards. I was hesitant to change as I liked to be able to allow the cards to trickle down and use the same drivers. My reasons for the switch, were my first move to a PCI-e card, (Obviously there will be nowtPCI-e card trickle down to machines that have a AGP solution), Dissatisfaction with a AIW card. Finally, I think Nvidia has the current edge. I think the switch to PCI-e was a BIG step for me, driven primarily by the availability of good solutions in motherboards. Good AGP solutions are scarce. While I do think Nvidia to be the current leader, it would not have been enough to drive me to the "Dark Side" not by itself andway. I edged over there because of the lack of support for a AIW card. Reasoned or petty, it doesn't matter now. __________________ It has to be Plugged In? To electricity? Video cards in house, 5770, 4650, HD 3870, X1950 XTX, X1900 XTX, X1900 XT and X1900 Crossfire, 2 X1800 XT's, X850 Pro, X800 Pro, AIW 9600XT, 9600 Pro, 9550 SE, 9200, 7000. XFX 6800 GS

Dec 24, 2005, 02:45 AM	#74
kbuzzard DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Buford, Georgia Posts: 83 Rep Power: 0	BOY, I would love to go too. F.Y.I. I DL'd and extracted WDM Drivers for CAT 2.5/3.5/4.10/4.11 to a folder tonight and NONE of them have WDM_NSP drivers. I was able to do that with 7zip BUT 4.12 and up I can't and I KNOW for a fact that CAT 4.12 has NSP stuff. This is probably no news to you. By the way, CAT 5.13 WDM Install notes mentions this and gives the FIX, but that fix seems to have NOT worked for anyome yet. read CAT 5.13 WDM notes and my additions on this note December 9, 2005 ATI WDM Driver Release Note CAT 5.13 *********************************** These release notes provide information for ATI's Windows Driver Model (WDM) versions 4.07 and 8.20. >v4.07 ( WDM_SP) and v8.20 (WDM_NSP) Desktop product family support The ATI WDM driver is a series of drivers used to enable the capture and TV tuner features on VIVO boards, and the All-in-Wonder® series of cards produced by ATI Technologies Inc. The ATI WDM Driver Install bundle contains both the ATI WDM Driver 4.07 and 8.20. The setup program automatically detects the graphic adapter installed in your system and installs the appropriate ATI WDM components for the graphic adapter. The WDM version 8.20 will install on: * All-in-Wonder® X1800 Series " WDM_NSP - MY NOTES, kbuzzard" * All-in-Wonder® X800 Series " * All-in-Wonder® X600 Series " * All-in-Wonder® 9800 Series " * All-in-Wonder® 9700 Series " * All-in-Wonder® 9600 Series " The ATI WDM driver version 4.07 will install on: * Radeon® 9200 series or earlier All-in-Wonder® products " WDM_SP - MY Notes kbuzzard" * ATI VIVO products TV Player Failed To Initialize Video, running ATI Multimedia Center Some ATI display drivers will not recognize or function with the software contained in tv-capture-wdm-4-07-6246v3-5-01-6300.exe. If you experience problems with your TV or Capture application be sure to install the recommended ATI Display driver for your ATI graphic card. If problems continue and you are using the recommended ATI display driver for your ATI graphic card, follow these steps: 1. Go to the DEVICE MANAGER. 2. Double-click the Sound, Video and game controller and ensure all the ATI WDM components listed below are present and functioning properly. For the ATI WDM version 4.07 (6246) the component list consists of: * ATI WDM Specialized PCD Codec * ATI WDM Rage Theater Audio * ATI WDM Rage Theater Video " > THIS WORKS XP SP1 "when forced" * *****NOTE 6-14-10-6246 IS CAT 4.11 WDM !! - My Notes kbuzzard"**** * ATI WDM TV Audio Crossbar * ATI WDM TV Tuner ATI SAYING IF 5.13 won't work USE CAT 4.11's * ATI WDM Specialized MVD For the ATI WDM version 8.20 the component list consists of: *** CAT 4.12's #6246v3 kbuzzard * ATI WDM Specialized PCD Codec * ATI WDM Rage Theater Audio * ATI WDM Rage Theater Video NSP >>>>>> OUR BUDDY * ATI WDM TV Audio Crossbar * ATI WDM TV Tuner * ATI WDM Specialized MVD Codec Last edited by kbuzzard; Dec 24, 2005 at 03:07 AM. Reason: CAT 5.13 Install notes on WDM Drivers, READ CAREFULLY

Dec 21, 2005, 10:22 PM	#63
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Infact that DAO/MDAC thing buggers up my Roxio Easy Media Creator, I get a Windows installer box every time I run it asking for DAO.MSI

Dec 22, 2005, 06:07 PM	#67
kbuzzard DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Buford, Georgia Posts: 83 Rep Power: 0	Yea JUDAS, Mr X @ ATI says "They can't reproduce OUR issues at their facilities, They prob have Tweaked SP2 Metwork installs and WON'T happen there !!!!

Dec 22, 2005, 07:33 PM	#68
Just Learnin' HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 1,414 Rep Power: 55 System Specs	Take my rig with you too Judas, might as well spend the month there!!! Hehehe........

Dec 22, 2005, 08:41 PM	#70
Just Learnin' HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 1,414 Rep Power: 55 System Specs	@ Max C, Still stable?Could you tell us if you have Service Pack 2 installed and what Mobo/CPU you have? Perhaps what soundcard as well please? Thanks!! All the best -Pete

Dec 24, 2005, 01:26 AM	#72
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Hehe I live close to ATI HQ... I'll take my rig in and show them what kind of problems there are.

Dec 24, 2005, 02:56 AM	#75
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Either way, if we can do all this stuff to get a fix, we shouldn't have to... I mean what if someone just wants to use the fkn card rather then spend hours trying to fix it?

Dec 24, 2005, 03:01 AM	#76
kbuzzard DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Buford, Georgia Posts: 83 Rep Power: 0	I'm really sorry my post got so long, lol , BUT it does SAY, CAT 5.13 WDMs doesn't work "TRY" to install CAT 4.11sWDMs, GREAT. Geez this Sux

Dec 25, 2005, 12:45 AM	#77
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	I hope ATI put working AiW drivers under my Christmas tree

Dec 25, 2005, 01:16 AM	#78
PandaZ3 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cornelius, Oregon Posts: 417 Rep Power: 0	I'm putting mine in a EPoX NFII board today, just the display drivers, then it hit me, I might try it with Win Me. That's a solution! .... a little to much EggNog maybe __________________ It has to be Plugged In? To electricity? Video cards in house, 5770, 4650, HD 3870, X1950 XTX, X1900 XTX, X1900 XT and X1900 Crossfire, 2 X1800 XT's, X850 Pro, X800 Pro, AIW 9600XT, 9600 Pro, 9550 SE, 9200, 7000. XFX 6800 GS

Dec 25, 2005, 07:38 PM	#80
PandaZ3 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cornelius, Oregon Posts: 417 Rep Power: 0	Some sanity returned. I am installing Suse linux rihgt now, I'll just use it as best I can. __________________ It has to be Plugged In? To electricity? Video cards in house, 5770, 4650, HD 3870, X1950 XTX, X1900 XTX, X1900 XT and X1900 Crossfire, 2 X1800 XT's, X850 Pro, X800 Pro, AIW 9600XT, 9600 Pro, 9550 SE, 9200, 7000. XFX 6800 GS

Dec 26, 2005, 11:14 PM	#81
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 64	I can't make any guarantees as we don;t have an AIW beta tester however our VIVO owners have not had any problems with the DHzer0point Drivers if someone would like to let me know if they'd like to beta test and/or try out our public release of the 5.13's it'd be nice to have a solid modded set for the AIW owners... __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR]

Dec 27, 2005, 04:48 AM	#82
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Would you possibly be able to include an option for analog / digital WDM's in the ZP drivers? I guarantee you alot of AiW users would soon be switching to ZP drivers, myself included

Dec 29, 2005, 05:46 AM	#83
kbuzzard DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Buford, Georgia Posts: 83 Rep Power: 0	ZP drivers with WDM_ options, hummm, HELP US. Update, CAT 5.13 WDM_ drivers for SP on AIW 9200 and down is actually the current WIN 2000 WDM's, interesting, NO SP2 or MCE stuff on Win2k.

Dec 29, 2005, 05:19 PM	#84
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Hey PoopyTheJ, you need an AiW beta tester? Where do I sign up ?

Dec 31, 2005, 07:40 AM	#86
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Wow something like 2000+ views on this thread

Dec 31, 2005, 03:56 PM	#88
kbuzzard DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Buford, Georgia Posts: 83 Rep Power: 0	ATI AIW folks, READ THIS. Being bored today I took a Cloned hdd of my working XP SP1,DX9c,CAT 5.10 DD,"Forced WDM_SP correct,MMC9.06 set-up and in playing installed as "Upgrade" a copy of "Unattended SP3" !!!, and Guess WHAT, hummm, now my WDM_SP video drivers in Device Manager have been CHANGED to WDM_NSP S.O.B. NOTE, there was NO driver changes per say. Interesting because EVEN when I forced WDM_SP into XP SP2 it ALWAYS installed as WDM_NSP or yellow caution and failed the TV stuff. I AM running the TV now to see if it crashes because it is RUNNING OK, so far. This is interesting as it HAS the NOTED delay in changing channels with the audio stutter, FOLKS, from where I sit, It looks like our OS is causing this, Maybe ATI drivers are being side tracked by Microsoft. You comments more than welcome. Fortunately this is a cloned copy and sublect to Format and try something else. I will report on NFSMW play later on. Oh YEA, HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL !!!!!!!!!!. Sorry, my setup. Asus P4P800 Deluxe / 3ghz HT 800 / 1gig Kingston hyperX PC-4000 / on-board audio biosed out,using Turtle Beach Santa Cruz / ATI 9600 Pro AIW. 3 external SATA Maxtor 120/8meg Cache,Channel 1 as "C" 2 as Clone or "G". Plex Px-708A & Lite-On SOHW-832S DVDR's in Antec Sonata MM Casew/ 450w PS. Last edited by kbuzzard; Dec 31, 2005 at 04:22 PM.

Dec 31, 2005, 08:28 PM	#90
PoopyTheJ DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,588 Rep Power: 64	Anyone interested in Beta testing please shoot me a PM. __________________ [COLOR=Blue]“Alright boys, let’s start her up and see why she doesn’t work.” - John Fritz "I aim to misbehave" Malcolm Reynolds ATI Catalyst Beta Tester[/COLOR]