Come on ATI.. Little more work on the AIW series please.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jan 20, 2006, 09:53 PM

Not happy with MMC 9.13 as of now.

Do we ever get MMC 10?

kbuzzard · Jan 22, 2006, 09:28 PM

Wow, what happened, everybody sell their AIW's, lol. I hear echo's in here.here,here,here

Judas · Jan 23, 2006, 12:03 AM

i don't think i'll ever really get of an AIW..... but i may stuff it on a shelf and twiddle my thumbs....

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jan 23, 2006, 12:16 AM

I may not buy one as my next video card that's for sure, a shame though

BWX · Jan 23, 2006, 12:25 AM

I think I have had it with ATI... a shame, but true. I was a big fan, but the force fed CCC and the non working Vivo software has not impressed me.

PandaZ3 · Jan 23, 2006, 12:32 AM

Well after a month with my new Nvidia card, I doubt ATI will see my shadow again, my X800 Pro is a great card though, but relegating my AIW to a regular Video card just makes me ticked. wasting my life trying to fix it, wasting my money not being able to us it, wasting my trust by not responding.

kbuzzard · Jan 23, 2006, 02:09 AM

I pretty much agree. If you can follow my posts and get nsp out etc, you can probably save your AIW but I ASSURE ya, it has NOT made me an ATI fan and WORSE I pointed out their glitch and they obviously don't give a CHIT. Too BAD. I think there are external forces holding this up such as Motion Picture Assoc and NASCAB and NAB, don't like us being able to TIVO without being $$$. Frankly, I am tired of ATI and MS both, Studying AV course on LINUX myself.

BWX · Jan 23, 2006, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbuzzard

don't like us being able to TIVO without being $$$..

Yeah, but they market the thing and sell them all day long..

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jan 23, 2006, 02:16 PM

Maybe we should write our own drivers.... I'm serious....

PandaZ3 · Jan 23, 2006, 03:05 PM

Seriously Loony ? Well obviously these drivers were written by humankind, but I have a hard enough time with power switches.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jan 23, 2006, 04:51 PM

I'd try at it if I had time and help, I might be able to look at it better in Feb/March depending on how things go

duderally · Jan 31, 2006, 01:28 AM

Ok I feel your pain guys. I went through all the hoops for months to get this thing to work without lock-ups, and the best solution I found was posted at Rage3D:

1. Run the Installer (6-1_xp-2k_dd_ccc_wdm_enu_29602.exe). Cancel the install after the files have been extracted to C:\ATI\SUPPORT.

2. Go to C:\ATI\SUPPORT\6-1_xp-2k_dd_ccc_wdm_enu_29602\WDM_ALL and copy these files, from WDM_SP to WDM_NSP and overwrite the originals:

ativtmxx.dll
ativmvxx.ax
ativmc20.cod
atinrvxx.SYS

3. Delete atinevxx.sys in WDM_NSP.

4. Rename atinrvxx.sys to atinevxx.sys

5. Start the setup.exe from C:\ATI\SUPPORT\6-1_xp-2k_dd_ccc_wdm_enu_29602

This will give you the WDM_SP drivers under Windows XP SP2. I haven't installed MMC 9.13 because apparently TV on Demand is constantly "on" with no option of turning it off.

So I currently run CAT 6.1, MMC 9.08.

My system setup is:
ASUS P4C800-E-DX
P4C 3.0Ghz
2GB OCZ RAM
AIW X800 XT
Audigy 2

yorobbie · Feb 1, 2006, 10:43 PM

That's what this is, I started bugging ATI though support after 5.3s came out and they changed the audio line to internal. After that my MMC TV always lagged video and sound. That was a 9700AIW, now I upgraded to a new system and a X1800AIW. I expected life to be good, boy was I wrong. TV still lags, and that is just B.S..
It never did that before, 5.3's and I had my old one AIW for years. I agree with the rest of you in saying to ATI "WTF!!!!!"

BWX · Feb 1, 2006, 10:55 PM

I just realized that DVD's are now all completely messed up-- in media player classic the navigation is completely gone and the damn things skip back and forth between languages..

WTF.. this crappy ATI software has completely ruined my PC for watching DVD's.. It has taken over all my file associations and will not let go. What a bunch of crap.

Might as well just forget about VIVO.. it's worthless.

kbuzzard · Feb 2, 2006, 01:45 AM

Update, none good. Watch CSPAN. The RIAA,NASCAP folks are trying to get "flags" on Recorded Audio and Video - SAD. Consumer Electronics Group fighting sinking ship. I am now fairly concerned that ATI doesn't want to FIX AIW problem for fear of law suits. My Dad was pretty successful TV serviceman mid 50's until mid 70's and HE awaited the day we could get CABLE TV as 'PAYING" for CABLE would eliminate Commercials - RIGHT. Now I PAY to watch Commercilas ESPECIALLY on Sat and Sunday's - WTF !!!!, If I pay for CABLE, Why I have Commercials. NOW, actual TIVO's don't even want US to SKIP Commercials. For those who work on PC's regularly, I helped a Buddy re-furb 30+ Laptops and ya know, XP SP2 REALLY SUX. The ONLY security in it is that M$ gets MORE income and Net Framework 2 or newer will big 'BIG BROTHER". I have had it with ATI - reluctantly

, . The days of Recording Audio or Video "DIGITAL" are on the way out, AIW's prettty much with it, Unless of Course you PAY as you record song by song or prog / movie by movie. Watch CSAN for "Digital Media" issues. P.S. My "FIX" continues to hold on SP2 updates to Jan 2006, I have Cloned back-up. If i loose it, BACK TO SP1 !!!!!!!

H3X4D3C1M4L · Feb 2, 2006, 03:24 AM

I'm currently in the process of looking reeeeaaaaaalllly deep into the problem here.... perhaps on Linux we may find salvation

BWX · Feb 2, 2006, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kbuzzard

Update, none good. Watch CSPAN. The RIAA,NASCAP folks are trying to get "flags" on Recorded Audio and Video - SAD. Consumer Electronics Group fighting sinking ship. I am now fairly concerned that ATI doesn't want to FIX AIW problem for fear of law suits. My Dad was pretty successful TV serviceman mid 50's until mid 70's and HE awaited the day we could get CABLE TV as 'PAYING" for CABLE would eliminate Commercials - RIGHT. Now I PAY to watch Commercilas ESPECIALLY on Sat and Sunday's - WTF !!!!, If I pay for CABLE, Why I have Commercials. NOW, actual TIVO's don't even want US to SKIP Commercials. For those who work on PC's regularly, I helped a Buddy re-furb 30+ Laptops and ya know, XP SP2 REALLY SUX. The ONLY security in it is that M$ gets MORE income and Net Framework 2 or newer will big 'BIG BROTHER". I have had it with ATI - reluctantly

, . The days of Recording Audio or Video "DIGITAL" are on the way out, AIW's prettty much with it, Unless of Course you PAY as you record song by song or prog / movie by movie. Watch CSAN for "Digital Media" issues. P.S. My "FIX" continues to hold on SP2 updates to Jan 2006, I have Cloned back-up. If i loose it, BACK TO SP1 !!!!!!!

It's total BS that it breaks you PC when you try to install it though... then upgrading really completely breaks everything having to do with watching DVD's and recording audio/video. It takes over all file associations and won't let go, looks like it will be a pain to clean off the system too.

What a bunch of crap, I mean damn, talk about FALSE ADVERTISING.

After this I can say that I have had it with ATI.. I guess they won't miss me anyway, there are many more suckers out there with more money, seems lately that's all they care about. Fix this mess ATI, come on. This whole thing is just ridiculous.

Come to think of it, I'm getting some tax returns back- if I can find a way to upgrade, I think after the deafening silence heard by ATI about this problem, I can just vote with my wallet.

BWX · Feb 3, 2006, 06:40 PM

WOW- all I can say is that the installer/uninstaller for all the ATI software related to VIVO has totally F'd all my media files and codecs. along with file associations and the registry. I tried to uninstall all that crap and got ALL kinds of errors about "failed to blah blah registry blah blah.." All the media files are "ATI FILE PLAYER" files now still.. and I cannot get them to un-associate from a program that is no longer installed!

What a bunch of crap.

g35x · Feb 3, 2006, 07:29 PM

did u try windows explorer to associate the file types with other programs???

H3X4D3C1M4L · Feb 3, 2006, 09:13 PM

You have to go into the MMC configuration and select WMP or it won't let go of file associations

g35x · Feb 3, 2006, 11:17 PM

ooooo....so is it worth the extra $ for aiw if i was getting say an x1800xl (aiw or connect 3d) do these problems happen alot or rarely???

ROBSCIX · Feb 3, 2006, 11:26 PM

I like my AIW, it has problems like other hardware drivers and such..I think most of us are used to that crap by now am I right? but now that I have my AIW I wouldn't go back to a normal video card again..I just like it to much..I am always watching TV now...although they could spruce up the drivers a little more but other that that the AIW series are great cards...especially cool because you have a remote..

H3X4D3C1M4L · Feb 3, 2006, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g35x

ooooo....so is it worth the extra $ for aiw if i was getting say an x1800xl (aiw or connect 3d) do these problems happen alot or rarely???

Depends on how lucky you are but I wouldn't hold out hope for flawless performance

BWX · Feb 4, 2006, 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H3X4D3C1M4L

You have to go into the MMC configuration and select WMP or it won't let go of file associations

Quote:

Originally Posted by g35x

did u try windows explorer to associate the file types with other programs???

Yeah I did that- but it wouldn't let go- I couldn't do it in the program because the damn thing wouldn't start. After I uninstalled the program (which did not work right) it still was messed up.

Finally after working on it for 4 or 5 hours cleaning the registry out and using DCP I got rid of the file association. My Media player classic still as no navigation abilities at all for DVD files. My codecs are screwed. I will probably need to start from scratch to get back to pre-ATI vivo software. I will never install it again. Right now I want to say I will never buy another ATI video card.. maybe I will change my mind, but right now I am pretty annoyed with their crappy software which I used to have great respect for.. After 2005, not so sure.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Feb 4, 2006, 03:59 PM

I'm waiting to see next month if we get MMC 10 with the release of the AiW X1900.... I mean ffs a $700+ video card should get some support. They keep making the cards but not the working software /Disgruntled

ROBSCIX · Feb 4, 2006, 07:09 PM

hmm I have uninstalled my software lots of times and never experienced anything like that..I do know it happens...as for the codec I always keep a app that installs all of them anyway....Like Ace codecs that should fix you up...well for codec anyway... I guess I never really worry about file associations in the manner your speaking..I just use whatever app I want to open the file...I guess it's a big deal if your double clicking the file though..good luck

H3X4D3C1M4L · Feb 6, 2006, 04:19 PM

Yeah but I don't want to have to fix something that was working after I've installed another app....thats why codec packs are a bad solution

g35x · Feb 6, 2006, 04:24 PM

pffttt ati media center has never worked for me (tv wonder pro) i had it working with dscaler for alittle while when i had windows 32 bit but that stopped for some reason.........and now no 64 bit drivers for it anyway lol

H3X4D3C1M4L · Feb 6, 2006, 04:25 PM

There were never 64bit WDM's

ROBSCIX · Feb 6, 2006, 07:45 PM

all I was saying H3X is I have uninstalled MMC a few times and have never lost codecs or such... Aren't most video player just front ends for whatever codecs you have installed? meaning the plyer cannot affect the codec if removed? I thought that's how it worked...please clarify..

Jan 23, 2006, 12:25 AM	#185
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	I think I have had it with ATI... a shame, but true. I was a big fan, but the force fed CCC and the non working Vivo software has not impressed me. __________________

Jan 23, 2006, 12:32 AM	#186
PandaZ3 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cornelius, Oregon Posts: 417 Rep Power: 0	Well after a month with my new Nvidia card, I doubt ATI will see my shadow again, my X800 Pro is a great card though, but relegating my AIW to a regular Video card just makes me ticked. wasting my life trying to fix it, wasting my money not being able to us it, wasting my trust by not responding. __________________ It has to be Plugged In? To electricity? Video cards in house, 5770, 4650, HD 3870, X1950 XTX, X1900 XTX, X1900 XT and X1900 Crossfire, 2 X1800 XT's, X850 Pro, X800 Pro, AIW 9600XT, 9600 Pro, 9550 SE, 9200, 7000. XFX 6800 GS

Jan 23, 2006, 03:05 PM	#190
PandaZ3 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cornelius, Oregon Posts: 417 Rep Power: 0	Seriously Loony ? Well obviously these drivers were written by humankind, but I have a hard enough time with power switches. __________________ It has to be Plugged In? To electricity? Video cards in house, 5770, 4650, HD 3870, X1950 XTX, X1900 XTX, X1900 XT and X1900 Crossfire, 2 X1800 XT's, X850 Pro, X800 Pro, AIW 9600XT, 9600 Pro, 9550 SE, 9200, 7000. XFX 6800 GS

Feb 1, 2006, 10:43 PM	#193
yorobbie DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Yosemite Posts: 67 Rep Power: 0	Bullsh** That's what this is, I started bugging ATI though support after 5.3s came out and they changed the audio line to internal. After that my MMC TV always lagged video and sound. That was a 9700AIW, now I upgraded to a new system and a X1800AIW. I expected life to be good, boy was I wrong. TV still lags, and that is just B.S.. It never did that before, 5.3's and I had my old one AIW for years. I agree with the rest of you in saying to ATI "WTF!!!!!" __________________ Gigabyte EX58-UD5 Intel Core i7 920 XFX GeForce GTX 285 OCZ XMP Ready Series 6GB DDR3 1600 Corsair TX750W AuzenTech Forte Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB Antec Nine Hundred Two VISTA Ultimate 64bit

Feb 1, 2006, 10:55 PM	#194
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	I just realized that DVD's are now all completely messed up-- in media player classic the navigation is completely gone and the damn things skip back and forth between languages.. WTF.. this crappy ATI software has completely ruined my PC for watching DVD's.. It has taken over all my file associations and will not let go. What a bunch of crap. Might as well just forget about VIVO.. it's worthless. __________________

Jan 20, 2006, 09:53 PM	#181
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Not happy with MMC 9.13 as of now. Do we ever get MMC 10?

Jan 22, 2006, 09:28 PM	#182
kbuzzard DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Buford, Georgia Posts: 83 Rep Power: 0	Wow, what happened, everybody sell their AIW's, lol. I hear echo's in here.here,here,here

Jan 23, 2006, 12:16 AM	#184
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	I may not buy one as my next video card that's for sure, a shame though

Jan 23, 2006, 02:09 AM	#187
kbuzzard DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Buford, Georgia Posts: 83 Rep Power: 0	I pretty much agree. If you can follow my posts and get nsp out etc, you can probably save your AIW but I ASSURE ya, it has NOT made me an ATI fan and WORSE I pointed out their glitch and they obviously don't give a CHIT. Too BAD. I think there are external forces holding this up such as Motion Picture Assoc and NASCAB and NAB, don't like us being able to TIVO without being $$$. Frankly, I am tired of ATI and MS both, Studying AV course on LINUX myself.

Jan 23, 2006, 02:16 PM	#189
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Maybe we should write our own drivers.... I'm serious....

Jan 23, 2006, 04:51 PM	#191
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	I'd try at it if I had time and help, I might be able to look at it better in Feb/March depending on how things go

Jan 31, 2006, 01:28 AM	#192
duderally DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Ok I feel your pain guys. I went through all the hoops for months to get this thing to work without lock-ups, and the best solution I found was posted at Rage3D: 1. Run the Installer (6-1_xp-2k_dd_ccc_wdm_enu_29602.exe). Cancel the install after the files have been extracted to C:\ATI\SUPPORT. 2. Go to C:\ATI\SUPPORT\6-1_xp-2k_dd_ccc_wdm_enu_29602\WDM_ALL and copy these files, from WDM_SP to WDM_NSP and overwrite the originals: ativtmxx.dll ativmvxx.ax ativmc20.cod atinrvxx.SYS 3. Delete atinevxx.sys in WDM_NSP. 4. Rename atinrvxx.sys to atinevxx.sys 5. Start the setup.exe from C:\ATI\SUPPORT\6-1_xp-2k_dd_ccc_wdm_enu_29602 This will give you the WDM_SP drivers under Windows XP SP2. I haven't installed MMC 9.13 because apparently TV on Demand is constantly "on" with no option of turning it off. So I currently run CAT 6.1, MMC 9.08. My system setup is: ASUS P4C800-E-DX P4C 3.0Ghz 2GB OCZ RAM AIW X800 XT Audigy 2

Feb 2, 2006, 01:45 AM	#195
kbuzzard DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Buford, Georgia Posts: 83 Rep Power: 0	Update, none good. Watch CSPAN. The RIAA,NASCAP folks are trying to get "flags" on Recorded Audio and Video - SAD. Consumer Electronics Group fighting sinking ship. I am now fairly concerned that ATI doesn't want to FIX AIW problem for fear of law suits. My Dad was pretty successful TV serviceman mid 50's until mid 70's and HE awaited the day we could get CABLE TV as 'PAYING" for CABLE would eliminate Commercials - RIGHT. Now I PAY to watch Commercilas ESPECIALLY on Sat and Sunday's - WTF !!!!, If I pay for CABLE, Why I have Commercials. NOW, actual TIVO's don't even want US to SKIP Commercials. For those who work on PC's regularly, I helped a Buddy re-furb 30+ Laptops and ya know, XP SP2 REALLY SUX. The ONLY security in it is that M$ gets MORE income and Net Framework 2 or newer will big 'BIG BROTHER". I have had it with ATI - reluctantly , . The days of Recording Audio or Video "DIGITAL" are on the way out, AIW's prettty much with it, Unless of Course you PAY as you record song by song or prog / movie by movie. Watch CSAN for "Digital Media" issues. P.S. My "FIX" continues to hold on SP2 updates to Jan 2006, I have Cloned back-up. If i loose it, BACK TO SP1 !!!!!!!

Feb 2, 2006, 03:24 AM	#196
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	I'm currently in the process of looking reeeeaaaaaalllly deep into the problem here.... perhaps on Linux we may find salvation

Feb 3, 2006, 06:40 PM	#198
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	WOW- all I can say is that the installer/uninstaller for all the ATI software related to VIVO has totally F'd all my media files and codecs. along with file associations and the registry. I tried to uninstall all that crap and got ALL kinds of errors about "failed to blah blah registry blah blah.." All the media files are "ATI FILE PLAYER" files now still.. and I cannot get them to un-associate from a program that is no longer installed! What a bunch of crap. __________________

Feb 3, 2006, 07:29 PM	#199
g35x Hellhound Pilot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Deptford, New Jersey Posts: 1,100 Rep Power: 43 System Specs	did u try windows explorer to associate the file types with other programs??? __________________

Feb 3, 2006, 09:13 PM	#200
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	You have to go into the MMC configuration and select WMP or it won't let go of file associations

Feb 3, 2006, 11:17 PM	#201
g35x Hellhound Pilot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Deptford, New Jersey Posts: 1,100 Rep Power: 43 System Specs	ooooo....so is it worth the extra $ for aiw if i was getting say an x1800xl (aiw or connect 3d) do these problems happen alot or rarely??? __________________

Feb 3, 2006, 11:26 PM	#202
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	I like my AIW, it has problems like other hardware drivers and such..I think most of us are used to that crap by now am I right? but now that I have my AIW I wouldn't go back to a normal video card again..I just like it to much..I am always watching TV now...although they could spruce up the drivers a little more but other that that the AIW series are great cards...especially cool because you have a remote..

Feb 4, 2006, 03:59 PM	#205
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	I'm waiting to see next month if we get MMC 10 with the release of the AiW X1900.... I mean ffs a $700+ video card should get some support. They keep making the cards but not the working software /Disgruntled

Feb 4, 2006, 07:09 PM	#206
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	hmm I have uninstalled my software lots of times and never experienced anything like that..I do know it happens...as for the codec I always keep a app that installs all of them anyway....Like Ace codecs that should fix you up...well for codec anyway... I guess I never really worry about file associations in the manner your speaking..I just use whatever app I want to open the file...I guess it's a big deal if your double clicking the file though..good luck

Feb 6, 2006, 04:19 PM	#207
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Yeah but I don't want to have to fix something that was working after I've installed another app....thats why codec packs are a bad solution

Feb 6, 2006, 04:24 PM	#208
g35x Hellhound Pilot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Deptford, New Jersey Posts: 1,100 Rep Power: 43 System Specs	pffttt ati media center has never worked for me (tv wonder pro) i had it working with dscaler for alittle while when i had windows 32 bit but that stopped for some reason.........and now no 64 bit drivers for it anyway lol __________________

Feb 6, 2006, 04:25 PM	#209
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	There were never 64bit WDM's

Feb 6, 2006, 07:45 PM	#210
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	all I was saying H3X is I have uninstalled MMC a few times and have never lost codecs or such... Aren't most video player just front ends for whatever codecs you have installed? meaning the plyer cannot affect the codec if removed? I thought that's how it worked...please clarify..