Come on ATI.. Little more work on the AIW series please.

Just Learnin' · Feb 6, 2006, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BWX

Yeah I did that- but it wouldn't let go- I couldn't do it in the program because the damn thing wouldn't start. After I uninstalled the program (which did not work right) it still was messed up.

Finally after working on it for 4 or 5 hours cleaning the registry out and using DCP I got rid of the file association. My Media player classic still as no navigation abilities at all for DVD files. My codecs are screwed. I will probably need to start from scratch to get back to pre-ATI vivo software. I will never install it again. Right now I want to say I will never buy another ATI video card.. maybe I will change my mind, but right now I am pretty annoyed with their crappy software which I used to have great respect for.. After 2005, not so sure.

I hope you used DCPro 1.4 as there was a problem with the 1.3 version which also caused what you are talking about.

BWX · Feb 6, 2006, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ROBSCIX

please clarify..

ATI software is F'd up.

ROBSCIX · Feb 6, 2006, 07:48 PM

I guess it depends...I haven't had any issues like you guys are describing..I tried the latest MMC and Although I like the new features I didn't like the fact that it constantly recorded to my HDD..and I was told there is no way to turn it off so I went back to v9.08...for now. I tried Dscaler..I still play with it from time to time but for some reason it doesn't pickup and tune my channels properly I have to access the Capture driver and punch in the channels that way...Which also give acces to the sharpness control which you cannot get at ion the MMC..but does affect the picture in MMC....any info on the guys?

BWX · Feb 6, 2006, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ROBSCIX

I guess it depends...I haven't had any issues like you guys are describing..I tried the latest MMC and Although I like the new features I didn't like the fact that it constantly recorded to my HDD..and I was told there is no way to turn it off

Yeah, exactly- that is totally F'd up.

ROBSCIX · Feb 6, 2006, 07:57 PM

Yes but what options are we given? every time I download another TV app it doesn't seem to work for me..canadian cable...etc... MMC works it's just..flawed..or F'd up is a good term..

H3X4D3C1M4L · Feb 6, 2006, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BWX

ATI software is F'd up.

Took the words from my tongue

ROBSCIX · Feb 6, 2006, 08:26 PM

IS there another TV app? that we can use? or are we STUCK with MMC? any suggestions?

BWX · Feb 6, 2006, 08:43 PM

Media player classic works the best I have found.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Feb 6, 2006, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROBSCIX

IS there another TV app? that we can use? or are we STUCK with MMC? any suggestions?

Check the MMC thread there were good suggestions in there, i.e. Dscaler

BWX · Feb 6, 2006, 09:13 PM

Yeah I like Dscaler too- the only thing that sucked about that was ironically I could not scale it to my screen like I can with MPC.. With MPC I can fine tune the aspect ratio and size of the picture so that I get exactly what I want. With Dscaler and MMC I has no options like that.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Feb 6, 2006, 09:17 PM

Whats MPC....sorry for a sort of useless post but I need options

ROBSCIX · Feb 6, 2006, 09:17 PM

I will check thx , I tried Dscaler...works but I cannot get it to change channels..

BWX · Feb 6, 2006, 09:23 PM

MPC Media player classic...

I only use it for TV in though- I don't think it will change channels, but it might. I only have vivo- not an AIW.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Feb 6, 2006, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BWX

MPC Media player classic...

I only use it for TV in though- I don't think it will change channels, but it might. I only have vivo- not an AIW.

My retarded mistake

It wouldn't work for me too well, I need a more all in one thing (like what MMC is supposed to do) for my video duties (i.e. convert VHS to DVD)

BWX · Feb 6, 2006, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Learnin'

I hope you used DCPro 1.4 as there was a problem with the 1.3 version which also caused what you are talking about.

Just saw this now-- yeah it was the latest DCP.. but the problem happened before that.. it happened when I updated MMC.

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(i.e. convert VHS to DVD)

Yeah I am going to have to find a program to make some DVD's too pretty soon, as soon as I get my DVD R drive installed...

ROBSCIX · Feb 6, 2006, 10:38 PM

hey H3X I also want to get into that converting VHS to DVD..as other have asked what app do you use for the actually DVD authoring..like for setting up menus and such..I can copy in the home videos easy enough..but don't know what app to use from there..and if I search I get about 10000000000 differnt apps..but I would prefer suggestions from a person who does this type of thing all the time..any suggestions?

H3X4D3C1M4L · Feb 6, 2006, 10:46 PM

I use Roxio Easy Media Creator 7, haven't tried 8 out yet.

misguided · Feb 10, 2006, 12:43 AM

I've had nothing but problems since I upgraded to the newer ATI drivers and Multimedia. After playing a test game like the trial version of Rise of Nations (either one) my computer would crash within an hour by literally shutting down. When I restarted it and checked my drivers most of the ATI WDM drivers could not start. Tried everything. Even thought it was the Windows Media DRM service so set that to manual. Still crashed any time I played my test game. The device manager could never reenable them unless I shut down my CPU for a day then they would magically be back. Go to test the game and same thing would happen.

I noticed that in the event logs ATI smart and AVG were always the last two events at the time of the crash.

AVG free edition's updater is creating the problem. Seems AVG updates almost daily and asks to reboot to finish its update. When the reboot is done the problem re-emerges. Quite by accident, I ignored the reboot message at startup and everything runs fine, did the same thing four different startups. Problem gone. I figure that the update will do its thing the next time I start up anyways so I now ignore it. Tested out AVG and doesn't seem to affect its usage in its current state. Been pulling my hair out for months searching for answers and thats how I found this forum before I came across this easy fix.

Hope this helps out someone with the same problem of dropping ATI WDM Drivers. I know you were originally on the topic of ATI Multimedia but this may very well be related.

CPU: AMD Athalon 64 3400+ (754) stock speed
Motherboard: ASUS K8N NForce3
Graphics Card: ATI 9600XT AIW 128mb stock speed
Sound Card: Creative SB Audigy 2 ZS
RAM: Kingston 3 x 512mb PC3200 at 400mhz
Hardrives: WD 200gb 8mb cache Eide Primary, WD 250gb 8mb cache Eide Secondary
Power Supply: PowMax 500W
O/S: Windows XP Home SP2 all updates
Drivers: All Creative drivers/Apps, ATI Graphics/Multimedia 5.13/9.08

H3X4D3C1M4L · Feb 10, 2006, 01:02 AM

I don't use AVG

But good find. I might investigae see if Norton is doing anything

misguided · Feb 10, 2006, 01:50 AM

[color=blue]I don't use AVG

But good find. I might investigae see if Norton is doing anything

[/color]

[color=#000000][color=black]Used Symantec products for years , they work well but are severe resource hogs[/color].[/color]

H3X4D3C1M4L · Feb 10, 2006, 01:57 AM

I don't find them resource hogs. If its too slow I use Linux

ROBSCIX · Mar 8, 2006, 08:40 PM

I wish ATI would include some kind of Audio configuration panels. You can't set ANY audio option, well none that I have seen. YOu would think such a application would need fairly in depth Audio configuration...another gripe..

H3X4D3C1M4L · Mar 8, 2006, 08:52 PM

Well new catalyst in a few hours wonder if we get a new MMC

ROBSCIX · Mar 8, 2006, 08:55 PM

Really? that's cool! when are the supposed to be out? I guess I will be installing them tonight. I have been using Dzeropoint, but I am not attached to them..what is supposed to be the big deal with these ones? are they supposed to function better?

H3X4D3C1M4L · Mar 9, 2006, 03:05 AM

Shaft again. We get the shaft yet again

BWX · Mar 9, 2006, 03:14 AM

Not me! (see sig).. I didn't think it had vivo, but it does. I hope it works a little better.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Mar 9, 2006, 01:55 PM

Ooooh you ditcher!

BWX · Mar 9, 2006, 01:56 PM

yeah I figured I would try something different.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Mar 9, 2006, 02:01 PM

You're still a ditcher

BWX · Mar 9, 2006, 02:09 PM

actually, the .net driver crap, and the Vivo non- functionality sealed the deal. I want to actually use the vivo, and the ATI cards just didn't work right, in that respect, ever.

Actually, I still have my 9700pro and my x800xl AGP, so actually I have more ATI cards than Nvidia. I may build up an AGP system and use that x800xl just in case the vivo ever gets sorted.. maybe it would make a good card for a media center PC or something. Put it on a wireless network and beam movies to it's HD and watch them out in the living room.

Feb 6, 2006, 08:43 PM	#218
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	Media player classic works the best I have found. __________________

Feb 6, 2006, 09:13 PM	#220
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	Yeah I like Dscaler too- the only thing that sucked about that was ironically I could not scale it to my screen like I can with MPC.. With MPC I can fine tune the aspect ratio and size of the picture so that I get exactly what I want. With Dscaler and MMC I has no options like that. __________________

Feb 6, 2006, 09:23 PM	#223
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	MPC Media player classic... I only use it for TV in though- I don't think it will change channels, but it might. I only have vivo- not an AIW. __________________

Feb 10, 2006, 12:43 AM	#228
misguided DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 56 Rep Power: 0	Have you guys come across this? AVG culprit I've had nothing but problems since I upgraded to the newer ATI drivers and Multimedia. After playing a test game like the trial version of Rise of Nations (either one) my computer would crash within an hour by literally shutting down. When I restarted it and checked my drivers most of the ATI WDM drivers could not start. Tried everything. Even thought it was the Windows Media DRM service so set that to manual. Still crashed any time I played my test game. The device manager could never reenable them unless I shut down my CPU for a day then they would magically be back. Go to test the game and same thing would happen. I noticed that in the event logs ATI smart and AVG were always the last two events at the time of the crash. AVG free edition's updater is creating the problem. Seems AVG updates almost daily and asks to reboot to finish its update. When the reboot is done the problem re-emerges. Quite by accident, I ignored the reboot message at startup and everything runs fine, did the same thing four different startups. Problem gone. I figure that the update will do its thing the next time I start up anyways so I now ignore it. Tested out AVG and doesn't seem to affect its usage in its current state. Been pulling my hair out for months searching for answers and thats how I found this forum before I came across this easy fix. Hope this helps out someone with the same problem of dropping ATI WDM Drivers. I know you were originally on the topic of ATI Multimedia but this may very well be related. CPU: AMD Athalon 64 3400+ (754) stock speed Motherboard: ASUS K8N NForce3 Graphics Card: ATI 9600XT AIW 128mb stock speed Sound Card: Creative SB Audigy 2 ZS RAM: Kingston 3 x 512mb PC3200 at 400mhz Hardrives: WD 200gb 8mb cache Eide Primary, WD 250gb 8mb cache Eide Secondary Power Supply: PowMax 500W O/S: Windows XP Home SP2 all updates Drivers: All Creative drivers/Apps, ATI Graphics/Multimedia 5.13/9.08

Mar 9, 2006, 03:14 AM	#236
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	Not me! (see sig).. I didn't think it had vivo, but it does. I hope it works a little better. __________________

Feb 6, 2006, 07:48 PM	#213
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	I guess it depends...I haven't had any issues like you guys are describing..I tried the latest MMC and Although I like the new features I didn't like the fact that it constantly recorded to my HDD..and I was told there is no way to turn it off so I went back to v9.08...for now. I tried Dscaler..I still play with it from time to time but for some reason it doesn't pickup and tune my channels properly I have to access the Capture driver and punch in the channels that way...Which also give acces to the sharpness control which you cannot get at ion the MMC..but does affect the picture in MMC....any info on the guys?

Feb 6, 2006, 07:57 PM	#215
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	Yes but what options are we given? every time I download another TV app it doesn't seem to work for me..canadian cable...etc... MMC works it's just..flawed..or F'd up is a good term..

Feb 6, 2006, 08:26 PM	#217
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	IS there another TV app? that we can use? or are we STUCK with MMC? any suggestions?

Feb 6, 2006, 09:17 PM	#221
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Whats MPC....sorry for a sort of useless post but I need options

Feb 6, 2006, 09:17 PM	#222
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	I will check thx , I tried Dscaler...works but I cannot get it to change channels..

Feb 6, 2006, 10:38 PM	#226
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	hey H3X I also want to get into that converting VHS to DVD..as other have asked what app do you use for the actually DVD authoring..like for setting up menus and such..I can copy in the home videos easy enough..but don't know what app to use from there..and if I search I get about 10000000000 differnt apps..but I would prefer suggestions from a person who does this type of thing all the time..any suggestions?

Feb 6, 2006, 10:46 PM	#227
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	I use Roxio Easy Media Creator 7, haven't tried 8 out yet.

Feb 10, 2006, 01:02 AM	#229
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	I don't use AVG But good find. I might investigae see if Norton is doing anything

Feb 10, 2006, 01:50 AM	#230
misguided DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 56 Rep Power: 0	[color=blue]I don't use AVG But good find. I might investigae see if Norton is doing anything [/color] [color=#000000][color=black]Used Symantec products for years , they work well but are severe resource hogs[/color].[/color]

Feb 10, 2006, 01:57 AM	#231
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	I don't find them resource hogs. If its too slow I use Linux

Mar 8, 2006, 08:40 PM	#232
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	I wish ATI would include some kind of Audio configuration panels. You can't set ANY audio option, well none that I have seen. YOu would think such a application would need fairly in depth Audio configuration...another gripe..

Mar 8, 2006, 08:52 PM	#233
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Well new catalyst in a few hours wonder if we get a new MMC

Mar 8, 2006, 08:55 PM	#234
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	Really? that's cool! when are the supposed to be out? I guess I will be installing them tonight. I have been using Dzeropoint, but I am not attached to them..what is supposed to be the big deal with these ones? are they supposed to function better?

Mar 9, 2006, 03:05 AM	#235
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Shaft again. We get the shaft yet again

Mar 9, 2006, 01:55 PM	#237
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Ooooh you ditcher!

Mar 9, 2006, 01:56 PM	#238
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	yeah I figured I would try something different. __________________

Mar 9, 2006, 02:01 PM	#239
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	You're still a ditcher

Mar 9, 2006, 02:09 PM	#240
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	actually, the .net driver crap, and the Vivo non- functionality sealed the deal. I want to actually use the vivo, and the ATI cards just didn't work right, in that respect, ever. Actually, I still have my 9700pro and my x800xl AGP, so actually I have more ATI cards than Nvidia. I may build up an AGP system and use that x800xl just in case the vivo ever gets sorted.. maybe it would make a good card for a media center PC or something. Put it on a wireless network and beam movies to it's HD and watch them out in the living room. __________________