Come on ATI.. Little more work on the AIW series please.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Mar 9, 2006, 02:13 PM

TV Tuner cards are more suited to that I would've though

BWX · Mar 9, 2006, 02:26 PM

yeah but with s video and component connections, plus having a cable box and dvd for inputs (can run them through my receiver if needed), I could just use it for songs and movies. Let the other stuff do their thing. I could still record TV and stuff if the software every worked right in the future.

tegeje · Mar 13, 2006, 09:24 PM

Hello - I need your help with my used ATI 9600 AIW

1. it intermittently 'looses' the sound, only very distorted sound occurs, this most times is curred by a reboot, but fatal, if I going to remotely boot my machine to schedule TV-recording

2. It looses the Channel setting in MMC. I am able to adjust the channel setting in MMC ( I have 34 Channel under PAL-B, Germany, Hamburg) once set, I can see these settings in the MMC, as well as in the registry under key: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ATI Technologies\MultiMedia\Features\TV\Tuner
but after a while (rebooted the machine) , these settings are disappearing from registry, as well as the channel settings in MMC. They even disappear from the channel favorite list (not marked any more) as well as from the visual selection list.

3. It intermittently does not perform the right scheduling - Movie starts approx. 40 minutes after it was scheduled.

MY STRONG DEMAND TO ATI: FIX THIS - I love the picture quality of my current AIW 9600 Pro , but as long as it is not working from dthe Driver site as well as from the Application site (MMC/Scheduler) is of no worth at all.

What is this a kind of software: Sometimes it works - sometimes it doesn't ???

My system:
Asus A7N8X-X Mobo, Nortbridge: NVIDIA nForce2 400, Southbrifge nForce2 MCP
BIOS:1010
Sempron 2800/333 FSB (2.0 Ghz) @ 1.69 Volt (anybody knows how to set it to 1.60V ?)
2,5 GB DDR Ram / 400 Mhz
250GB Matrox IDE/133

ATI Hardware Information:
Graphics Card Manufacturer Built by ATI
Graphics Chipset ALL-IN-WONDER 9600 SERIES
Device ID 4150
Vendor 1002
Subsystem ID 4772
Subsystem Vendor ID 1002
Bus Type AGP
Current Bus Setting AGP 8X
BIOS Version 008.015.028.000
BIOS Part Number BK-ATI VER008.015.028.000
BIOS Date 2003/07/30
Memory Size 128 MB
Memory Type DDR SGRAM / SDRAM
Core Clock in MHz 398 MHz
Memory Clock in MHz 324 MHz
Primary Display Yes
ATI Software:
Driver Packaging Version 8.221-060124a1-030152C-ATI
CATALYST® Version 06.2
Provider ATI Technologies Inc.
2D Driver Version 6.14.10.6599
2D Driver File Path System\ControlSet001\Services\ati2mtag\Device0
Direct3D Version 6.14.10.0379
OpenGL Version 6.14.10.5646
CATALYST® Control Center Version 1.2.2217.17271
AIW/VIVO WDM Driver Version 6.14.10.6325
AIW/VIVO WDM NSP Driver Version 6.14.10.6325

MMC 9.08 with Euro Language on top.
Used Driver Pack from ATI Side: 6-2_xp-2k_dd_ccc_wdm_enu_30152
Many thanks
Thomas

To others in this Forum: New Drivers 6.3 are out - anybody have tried them ?
Any improvement to 6.2 ?

H3X4D3C1M4L · Mar 15, 2006, 03:04 AM

6.2 --> 6.3 shows no sign of improvement namely because the drivers are the exact same I believe.

Judas · Mar 15, 2006, 04:05 AM

anyone notice that the x64 6.3's (vivo/wdm) package doesn't have the nessary drivers included in it at all.. it's like running a blank installer... nothing there to install...

forcing us to resort to the 6.2's yet again..

the catalyst/CCC 6.3's work though.... how the hell did ATI miss this?

H3X4D3C1M4L · Mar 15, 2006, 03:50 PM

How did they completely miss a WORKING MMC somewhere between 8.8 and now?

Judas · Mar 15, 2006, 04:10 PM

that's true to lol

BWX · Mar 15, 2006, 05:38 PM

That's just messed up.

...unacceptable..

Judas · Mar 15, 2006, 05:50 PM

i think some ati ceo's need to lay the smack down on some AIW/Vivo/MMC software engineers and use some damn buckshot to fire some of the damn people not doing there job worth shit...

how does something gradually get more and more worse every release?

i can't even get MMC let alone any of the components related to MMC to load on my x1900xtx just to use the vivo portion... and good luck with using a x1900xt AIW...

Prlwytkovsky · Mar 15, 2006, 05:56 PM

I could not get mmc to work right with my AIW 9800 Pro. I wanted to record a tape on my computer. Hooked up the VCR and got a good picture in a window. As soon as I click on record the picture starts to stutter badly. After stopping the recording it proceeds as normal. When I check the recorded file it is 0 bytes, no matter how long I record.

This software sucks. Have they ever released a working AIW software bundle ? I had the same misery with an old 8500 AIW. I won't buy any ATI product anymore. I'm fed up.

Judas · Mar 15, 2006, 05:58 PM

when i had the 9000pro AIW AGP... it work beautifully.....

tegeje · Mar 15, 2006, 06:51 PM

I tried the install of the 6.3 WDM in conjunction with 6.3 DD.
DD runs well - but installation of WDM only installs T200 Audio Driver ?

This is ridiculous - no WDM Drivers for TV / Video etc. installed by the 6.3 WDM setup !!
Hey , goooooooooood shot !

Does ATI ever try to install/use their own Software released on their web-site ?

Another two hours of my life time sacrificed to ATIs superb Software quality !

Judas · Mar 15, 2006, 07:28 PM

just download the 6.2 vivo/wdm package... they are the latest ones that actually work

ROBSCIX · Mar 15, 2006, 07:57 PM

Yep, I already went through the install/uninstall..drvier cleaner shuffle..lol. These driver did nothing for me except totally mess up my AIW card..I couldn't watch tv..nothing...I am using a older version of MMC, but I tried the newest version aswell and the didn't even work!...so I don't know what is going on with these...

H3X4D3C1M4L · Mar 16, 2006, 04:44 PM

I'm gonna start fiddling with my AiW now that I have the Audigy 4 mod done properly again, see if it makes any remote difference

ROBSCIX · Mar 16, 2006, 05:25 PM

Man I got my AIW running perfect, everytime I try To update ANYTHING it doesn't work I get problems big time...so I just leave it alone. I tried Cat 6.3 then my MMC 9.08 won't work..so I tried MMC 9.13 with the reg edit for TV on demand that wouldn't even work for me...so I have to undo all these installs..took about 90 minutes each try and I tried twice...Maybe I am missing something but I know how to install drivers properly...so I am stumped..BTW H3X that reg edit for the MMC so it'll stop the Tv recording all the time seems to work fine..

Monrad · Mar 17, 2006, 10:31 AM

Hi, I'm another unhappy AIW customer. I own a X1800XL AIW and my video standard (PAL_NC) is not supported by WDM drivers altough the hardware is capable to support it.

ATI: great piece of hardware... it's a pitty the bad quality of ATI drivers and software out there.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Mar 17, 2006, 05:03 PM

I'm going to try the 6.2 WDM_NSP's and the MMC 9.06.1 through 9.13 and see what the results are

Judas · Mar 18, 2006, 01:53 AM

let me know how it goes..
i've got a x800XL AIW that i gotta setup and show off as a demo Multimedia Center Rig within the next few days....

ROBSCIX · Mar 18, 2006, 06:16 PM

One thing I noticed about the 6.3 drivers..is that they unified alot of the AIW type drivers. SO before in the control panel you had ATI WDM this NSP that..when I had 6.3 installed it had just onde unified driver in there..did anyone else notice that?

Judas · Mar 18, 2006, 08:00 PM

the previous driver set i've found the same unified driver, but the 6.3's is missing the nsp files required by most ati vivo products... i cannot install the 6.3 Vivo/WDMs... they won't work, hell you try to forcefully install it and it just doesn't work. 6.2 package is required.

ROBSCIX · Mar 18, 2006, 08:57 PM

SO that explains why my TV won't work with them? Why wouldn't a new driver sontain new WDM drivers for peopl uding a VIVO product like me? Has anybody figured out how to fix it yet? I just thought it was my hardware and I might have to wait until the net release..thx for the info guys..I am gonna watch this thread close..learn something new everyday..

Judas · Mar 19, 2006, 12:47 AM

just download the 6.2 Vivo/WDM package and install them....

ROBSCIX · Mar 19, 2006, 02:59 AM

Oh I see, install the 6.3's and install 6.2 wdm package is that what you mean? I have 6.2 DHzeropooints installed. Why would they make a new driver release that leaves out these key components for alot of their customer and products?

Judas · Mar 19, 2006, 04:34 AM

cause someone who packaged it all up managed to pass it without actually checking it?

and yes.. install the 6.3 driver and CCC package.. then install the 6.2 WDM/Vivo package.. and you'll be good (or should be)

Monrad · Mar 20, 2006, 08:18 PM

This is so funny... I'm the guy having issues with PAL_NC in WDM drivers...

Kombatant from Rage3D told me that ATI doesn't officially support Argentina video standard. The other day I was looking at ATI page trying to find something I read and I found it.

I'll show you the reason of why X1K AIW video cards are being sold in Argentina, I mean... why would anyone sell a card that is not officially supported? The answer is: because we told you that Argentina WAS supported:

http://www.ati.com/products/radeonx1...0xl/specs.html

I don't want to contact ATI support with this link because I'm pretty sure they'll edit the specs page and remove Argentina from there

ROBSCIX · Mar 20, 2006, 08:38 PM

Sorry just for my info does Argentina use both Pal and NTSC standards? or a different Version of PAL?

Monrad · Mar 20, 2006, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROBSCIX

Sorry just for my info does Argentina use both Pal and NTSC standards? or a different Version of PAL?

Argentina uses PAL_NC which is compatible with all NTSC TV Tuners. PAL Tuners doesn't work in Argentina.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Mar 21, 2006, 09:23 PM

Monrad, have you tried just accepting it as an NTSC signal?

Monrad · Mar 21, 2006, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H3X4D3C1M4L

Monrad, have you tried just accepting it as an NTSC signal?

The tuner has 2 options: NTSC_M and NTSC_M_J

I need to use NTSC_M, and later in the capture filter, select PAL_NC which is not listed.

Of course I've tried every video standard in that list to see if I'd be able to watch TV in black and white. The only video standard that works in black and white without sound is SECAM. Every SECAM video frequency works with the right image size. PAL_N also works, but it displayis blue vertical lines and the image is still in black and white (except for those blue lines).

I need to face it, they support my country... but they don't support my video standard. It's not that difficult to understand (?????????)

Mar 9, 2006, 02:26 PM	#242
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	yeah but with s video and component connections, plus having a cable box and dvd for inputs (can run them through my receiver if needed), I could just use it for songs and movies. Let the other stuff do their thing. I could still record TV and stuff if the software every worked right in the future. __________________

Mar 15, 2006, 05:38 PM	#248
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	That's just messed up. ...unacceptable.. __________________

Mar 17, 2006, 10:31 AM	#257
Monrad DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	Hi, I'm another unhappy AIW customer. I own a X1800XL AIW and my video standard (PAL_NC) is not supported by WDM drivers altough the hardware is capable to support it. ATI: great piece of hardware... it's a pitty the bad quality of ATI drivers and software out there. __________________ AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice DFI LanParty UTnf4 Ultra-D 2x512 SuperTalent DDR500 2-3-3-8 ATI Radeon X1800XL AIW Sound Blaster Audigy ZS Maxtor 160GB Tagan 480W Power Supply (580w peak)

Mar 20, 2006, 08:18 PM	#266
Monrad DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	This is so funny... I'm the guy having issues with PAL_NC in WDM drivers... Kombatant from Rage3D told me that ATI doesn't officially support Argentina video standard. The other day I was looking at ATI page trying to find something I read and I found it. I'll show you the reason of why X1K AIW video cards are being sold in Argentina, I mean... why would anyone sell a card that is not officially supported? The answer is: because we told you that Argentina WAS supported: http://www.ati.com/products/radeonx1...0xl/specs.html I don't want to contact ATI support with this link because I'm pretty sure they'll edit the specs page and remove Argentina from there __________________ AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice DFI LanParty UTnf4 Ultra-D 2x512 SuperTalent DDR500 2-3-3-8 ATI Radeon X1800XL AIW Sound Blaster Audigy ZS Maxtor 160GB Tagan 480W Power Supply (580w peak)

Mar 9, 2006, 02:13 PM	#241
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	TV Tuner cards are more suited to that I would've though

Mar 13, 2006, 09:24 PM	#243
tegeje DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	Hello - I need your help with my used ATI 9600 AIW 1. it intermittently 'looses' the sound, only very distorted sound occurs, this most times is curred by a reboot, but fatal, if I going to remotely boot my machine to schedule TV-recording 2. It looses the Channel setting in MMC. I am able to adjust the channel setting in MMC ( I have 34 Channel under PAL-B, Germany, Hamburg) once set, I can see these settings in the MMC, as well as in the registry under key: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ATI Technologies\MultiMedia\Features\TV\Tuner but after a while (rebooted the machine) , these settings are disappearing from registry, as well as the channel settings in MMC. They even disappear from the channel favorite list (not marked any more) as well as from the visual selection list. 3. It intermittently does not perform the right scheduling - Movie starts approx. 40 minutes after it was scheduled. MY STRONG DEMAND TO ATI: FIX THIS - I love the picture quality of my current AIW 9600 Pro , but as long as it is not working from dthe Driver site as well as from the Application site (MMC/Scheduler) is of no worth at all. What is this a kind of software: Sometimes it works - sometimes it doesn't ??? My system: Asus A7N8X-X Mobo, Nortbridge: NVIDIA nForce2 400, Southbrifge nForce2 MCP BIOS:1010 Sempron 2800/333 FSB (2.0 Ghz) @ 1.69 Volt (anybody knows how to set it to 1.60V ?) 2,5 GB DDR Ram / 400 Mhz 250GB Matrox IDE/133 ATI Hardware Information: Graphics Card Manufacturer Built by ATI Graphics Chipset ALL-IN-WONDER 9600 SERIES Device ID 4150 Vendor 1002 Subsystem ID 4772 Subsystem Vendor ID 1002 Bus Type AGP Current Bus Setting AGP 8X BIOS Version 008.015.028.000 BIOS Part Number BK-ATI VER008.015.028.000 BIOS Date 2003/07/30 Memory Size 128 MB Memory Type DDR SGRAM / SDRAM Core Clock in MHz 398 MHz Memory Clock in MHz 324 MHz Primary Display Yes ATI Software: Driver Packaging Version 8.221-060124a1-030152C-ATI CATALYST® Version 06.2 Provider ATI Technologies Inc. 2D Driver Version 6.14.10.6599 2D Driver File Path System\ControlSet001\Services\ati2mtag\Device0 Direct3D Version 6.14.10.0379 OpenGL Version 6.14.10.5646 CATALYST® Control Center Version 1.2.2217.17271 AIW/VIVO WDM Driver Version 6.14.10.6325 AIW/VIVO WDM NSP Driver Version 6.14.10.6325 MMC 9.08 with Euro Language on top. Used Driver Pack from ATI Side: 6-2_xp-2k_dd_ccc_wdm_enu_30152 Many thanks Thomas To others in this Forum: New Drivers 6.3 are out - anybody have tried them ? Any improvement to 6.2 ?

Mar 15, 2006, 03:04 AM	#244
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	6.2 --> 6.3 shows no sign of improvement namely because the drivers are the exact same I believe.

Mar 15, 2006, 03:50 PM	#246
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	How did they completely miss a WORKING MMC somewhere between 8.8 and now?

Mar 15, 2006, 05:56 PM	#250
Prlwytkovsky DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Washington DC Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	I could not get mmc to work right with my AIW 9800 Pro. I wanted to record a tape on my computer. Hooked up the VCR and got a good picture in a window. As soon as I click on record the picture starts to stutter badly. After stopping the recording it proceeds as normal. When I check the recorded file it is 0 bytes, no matter how long I record. This software sucks. Have they ever released a working AIW software bundle ? I had the same misery with an old 8500 AIW. I won't buy any ATI product anymore. I'm fed up.

Mar 15, 2006, 06:51 PM	#252
tegeje DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	I tried the install of the 6.3 WDM in conjunction with 6.3 DD. DD runs well - but installation of WDM only installs T200 Audio Driver ? This is ridiculous - no WDM Drivers for TV / Video etc. installed by the 6.3 WDM setup !! Hey , goooooooooood shot ! Does ATI ever try to install/use their own Software released on their web-site ? Another two hours of my life time sacrificed to ATIs superb Software quality !

Mar 15, 2006, 07:57 PM	#254
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	Yep, I already went through the install/uninstall..drvier cleaner shuffle..lol. These driver did nothing for me except totally mess up my AIW card..I couldn't watch tv..nothing...I am using a older version of MMC, but I tried the newest version aswell and the didn't even work!...so I don't know what is going on with these...

Mar 16, 2006, 04:44 PM	#255
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	I'm gonna start fiddling with my AiW now that I have the Audigy 4 mod done properly again, see if it makes any remote difference

Mar 16, 2006, 05:25 PM	#256
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	Man I got my AIW running perfect, everytime I try To update ANYTHING it doesn't work I get problems big time...so I just leave it alone. I tried Cat 6.3 then my MMC 9.08 won't work..so I tried MMC 9.13 with the reg edit for TV on demand that wouldn't even work for me...so I have to undo all these installs..took about 90 minutes each try and I tried twice...Maybe I am missing something but I know how to install drivers properly...so I am stumped..BTW H3X that reg edit for the MMC so it'll stop the Tv recording all the time seems to work fine..

Mar 17, 2006, 05:03 PM	#258
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	I'm going to try the 6.2 WDM_NSP's and the MMC 9.06.1 through 9.13 and see what the results are

Mar 18, 2006, 06:16 PM	#260
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	One thing I noticed about the 6.3 drivers..is that they unified alot of the AIW type drivers. SO before in the control panel you had ATI WDM this NSP that..when I had 6.3 installed it had just onde unified driver in there..did anyone else notice that?

Mar 18, 2006, 08:57 PM	#262
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	SO that explains why my TV won't work with them? Why wouldn't a new driver sontain new WDM drivers for peopl uding a VIVO product like me? Has anybody figured out how to fix it yet? I just thought it was my hardware and I might have to wait until the net release..thx for the info guys..I am gonna watch this thread close..learn something new everyday..

Mar 19, 2006, 02:59 AM	#264
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	Oh I see, install the 6.3's and install 6.2 wdm package is that what you mean? I have 6.2 DHzeropooints installed. Why would they make a new driver release that leaves out these key components for alot of their customer and products?

Mar 20, 2006, 08:38 PM	#267
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	Sorry just for my info does Argentina use both Pal and NTSC standards? or a different Version of PAL?

Mar 21, 2006, 09:23 PM	#269
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	Monrad, have you tried just accepting it as an NTSC signal?