Need advice on GFX cards

g35x · Feb 28, 2006, 02:46 PM

yeah same reccomendation here only i also siguest you buy more ram.....2x 512mb should be good

SSXeon · Feb 28, 2006, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by g35x

yeah same reccomendation here only i also siguest you buy more ram.....2x 512mb should be good

True, 1gig is needed anymore.

John C · Feb 28, 2006, 11:02 PM

Yea , I'm either going for a X800XL - series or a X850XL- series in PCI and I think 256MB will do

also I have 1 Gig RAM on my pc and I also have an additional 512MB stick somwere around. The RAM you see on my posted sceen if for the GFX card only

H3X4D3C1M4L · Mar 1, 2006, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SSXeon

LOL i cant read that. Hey john, you going to have to open the computer up, its ok if its still on, just look for where your videocard is placed.:

All you had to look for was this line...

INF-bestand oem22.inf (ati2mtag_RV410-gedeelte)

And you could've deduced it was AGP

@John C: As far as I know there is no X850XL so it looks like you'll want an X800XL. Also, be wary because I don't know how good that 320W PSU is, you may have to invest in a new one because once you get the new card it's gonna suck up more power, and if the thing is already loaded now then you could run into issues

SSXeon · Mar 1, 2006, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by H3X4D3C1M4L

All you had to look for was this line...

INF-bestand oem22.inf (ati2mtag_RV410-gedeelte)

And you could've deduced it was AGP

I didnt know that off the top of my head, like you did.

For $300 @ newegg he would be better off getting a X800XT AIW, also i dont see any X800XLs in agp.

g35x · Mar 1, 2006, 05:54 PM

newegg no longer sells an x800 agps except x800xt i think,and he's in the uk newegg dosen't ship there anyway so it dosent matter

H3X4D3C1M4L · Mar 1, 2006, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by g35x

newegg no longer sells an x800 agps except x800xt i think,and he's in the uk newegg dosen't ship there anyway so it dosent matter

That'd be funny, you couldn't get an X800XT at the time of launch and now when its well "obsolete" you can....funny

SSXeon · Mar 1, 2006, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by H3X4D3C1M4L

That'd be funny, you couldn't get an X800XT at the time of launch and now when its well "obsolete" you can....funny

I dont see how thats relevant. I got my X800XT:PE no problems about 1-2 months after launch. Its not as bad as the 10k GTX512s that were sold.

John C go here:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/AGP.html

Powercolor X850XT Retail £179.95

Rasta Monsta · Mar 1, 2006, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by H3X4D3C1M4L

All you had to look for was this line...

INF-bestand oem22.inf (ati2mtag_RV410-gedeelte)

And you could've deduced it was AGP

You sure about that? I did a search on RV410 and got some indication that it was a native PCIx part. . .or is it the "AG" portion of the line you quoted?

Please elucidate!

rasta

SSXeon · Mar 1, 2006, 10:36 PM

Yeah, john go for the card i posted a link to @ overclockers.co.uk The X850XT is the best price/performance card at this point, in AGP.

John C · Mar 2, 2006, 12:36 PM

ok I founded out it was a PCIexpress card (=>I looked at the box and did some research at the website of this company ) and I've orderd a X850XT 256 PCI-e card

It should be arriving either tomorow or the day afther

g35x · Mar 2, 2006, 02:47 PM

uhm....why did you order a pci-e card??? you dont have a pci-e slot on your motherboard you have an agp slot......you need an agp card.....in other words you cant use that x850xt......(pci-e isnt the same as pci....thats why theres an "express" on the end of it

H3X4D3C1M4L · Mar 2, 2006, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Rasta Monsta

You sure about that? I did a search on RV410 and got some indication that it was a native PCIx part. . .or is it the "AG" portion of the line you quoted?

Please elucidate!

rasta

Maybe I got confused then...but the guy ordered a PCI-E card and seems to think its PCI-E now....

.....well we can only wait and see now

g35x · Mar 2, 2006, 03:19 PM

hmmm....well if it's AGP ill trade him my AGP x800xl for the x850xt =)

SSXeon · Mar 2, 2006, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by g35x

hmmm....well if it's AGP ill trade him my AGP x800xl for the x850xt =)

John C · Mar 2, 2006, 07:10 PM

Well if it isn't a PCI-e slot in my PC, I have the right on a refund by the company that made my PC. ( It sais so on the box PCI-express card X740XL 128 MB)
Then I just have to take it to their helpdeskoffice , and they'll fit a slot in my PC becouse I payed for it. My previus computer, from the same company, had such a error like this and they just fixed it for free ...

So no worries then

As for the slot collors ... Company's don't allways use the same indication. Also have loooked at this company's site , searched my moddel and it sais PCI-express ....

and for the files I found this on the net

"GeCube RADEON X700 PRO" = ati2mtag_RV410, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5E4B&SUBSYS_065218BC

niceguyrichy · Mar 2, 2006, 08:21 PM

it's not a MEDION 8086 or something along those lines is it?

anyways, the gpu you mentioned is a pci-e , medion ship them with a couple of their comps as far as I can tell.

and that new card should do you well

watch out for static when you install though

John C · Mar 2, 2006, 10:29 PM

I believe I hae an medion 8386

g35x · Mar 3, 2006, 02:47 PM

ah okay well if u told us it said pci-express on the box that woulda saved us a load of trouble haha glad things worked out for ya

John C · Mar 3, 2006, 05:52 PM

Yea , I acctualy forrgot it we still had the box of our pc

my appologies if it costed you guys much trouble

as I said, I'm a complete noob for what hardware matters
Sorry
John

g35x · Mar 3, 2006, 05:59 PM

haha no problem man,we're here to help,as the banner at the top says, no1 tech support site =)

SSXeon · Mar 3, 2006, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by g35x

haha no problem man,we're here to help,as the banner at the top says, no1 tech support site =)

Yeah.

Enjoy it john, post

when you get it.

John C · Mar 4, 2006, 03:50 PM

Installed it 2day , ran evrything fine. Even got 2 free games with the pacage

Now I can play 9.0C games with no problems (my old card also ran 9.0C , but at a FPS somhere near 1 )

Howerver I still have a few Q

1) What is overclocing (came with the instalations CD
2) Does the "Omega driver" has any side effects ?

Thx

SSXeon · Mar 4, 2006, 04:21 PM

1) What is overclocing (came with the instalations CD)?: Overclocking is raising the clock speeds of both the core and memory. You really dont need to really
2) Does the "Omega driver" has any side effects? No, Omega drivers are fine, they are modified ATi drivers with more fixes or performance boosts. You should be just fine with the 6.2s on ATi's site

Feb 28, 2006, 02:46 PM	#31
g35x Hellhound Pilot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Deptford, New Jersey Posts: 1,100 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	yeah same reccomendation here only i also siguest you buy more ram.....2x 512mb should be good __________________

Mar 1, 2006, 05:54 PM	#36
g35x Hellhound Pilot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Deptford, New Jersey Posts: 1,100 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	newegg no longer sells an x800 agps except x800xt i think,and he's in the uk newegg dosen't ship there anyway so it dosent matter __________________

Mar 1, 2006, 10:36 PM	#40
SSXeon ATi Freak!! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Virginia, US Posts: 501 Rep Power: 0	Yeah, john go for the card i posted a link to @ overclockers.co.uk The X850XT is the best price/performance card at this point, in AGP. __________________ XFX HD4890 1024MB @ 950/4400Mhz Have issues with your Catalyst driver? Please report it to ATi

Mar 2, 2006, 02:47 PM	#42
g35x Hellhound Pilot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Deptford, New Jersey Posts: 1,100 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	uhm....why did you order a pci-e card??? you dont have a pci-e slot on your motherboard you have an agp slot......you need an agp card.....in other words you cant use that x850xt......(pci-e isnt the same as pci....thats why theres an "express" on the end of it __________________

Mar 2, 2006, 03:19 PM	#44
g35x Hellhound Pilot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Deptford, New Jersey Posts: 1,100 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	hmmm....well if it's AGP ill trade him my AGP x800xl for the x850xt =) __________________

Feb 28, 2006, 11:02 PM	Thread Starter #33
John C HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 77 Rep Power: 0	Yea , I'm either going for a X800XL - series or a X850XL- series in PCI and I think 256MB will do also I have 1 Gig RAM on my pc and I also have an additional 512MB stick somwere around. The RAM you see on my posted sceen if for the GFX card only

Mar 2, 2006, 12:36 PM	Thread Starter #41
John C HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 77 Rep Power: 0	ok I founded out it was a PCIexpress card (=>I looked at the box and did some research at the website of this company ) and I've orderd a X850XT 256 PCI-e card It should be arriving either tomorow or the day afther

Mar 2, 2006, 07:10 PM	Thread Starter #46
John C HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 77 Rep Power: 0	Well if it isn't a PCI-e slot in my PC, I have the right on a refund by the company that made my PC. ( It sais so on the box PCI-express card X740XL 128 MB) Then I just have to take it to their helpdeskoffice , and they'll fit a slot in my PC becouse I payed for it. My previus computer, from the same company, had such a error like this and they just fixed it for free ... So no worries then As for the slot collors ... Company's don't allways use the same indication. Also have loooked at this company's site , searched my moddel and it sais PCI-express .... and for the files I found this on the net "GeCube RADEON X700 PRO" = ati2mtag_RV410, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5E4B&SUBSYS_065218BC Last edited by John C; Mar 2, 2006 at 07:18 PM.

Mar 2, 2006, 10:29 PM	Thread Starter #48
John C HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 77 Rep Power: 0	I believe I hae an medion 8386

Mar 3, 2006, 02:47 PM	#49
g35x Hellhound Pilot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Deptford, New Jersey Posts: 1,100 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	ah okay well if u told us it said pci-express on the box that woulda saved us a load of trouble haha glad things worked out for ya __________________

Mar 3, 2006, 05:52 PM	Thread Starter #50
John C HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 77 Rep Power: 0	Yea , I acctualy forrgot it we still had the box of our pc my appologies if it costed you guys much trouble as I said, I'm a complete noob for what hardware matters Sorry John

Mar 3, 2006, 05:59 PM	#51
g35x Hellhound Pilot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Deptford, New Jersey Posts: 1,100 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	haha no problem man,we're here to help,as the banner at the top says, no1 tech support site =) __________________

Mar 4, 2006, 03:50 PM	Thread Starter #53
John C HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 77 Rep Power: 0	Installed it 2day , ran evrything fine. Even got 2 free games with the pacage Now I can play 9.0C games with no problems (my old card also ran 9.0C , but at a FPS somhere near 1 ) Howerver I still have a few Q 1) What is overclocing (came with the instalations CD 2) Does the "Omega driver" has any side effects ? Thx

Mar 4, 2006, 04:21 PM	#54
SSXeon ATi Freak!! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Virginia, US Posts: 501 Rep Power: 0	1) What is overclocing (came with the instalations CD)?: *Overclocking is raising the clock speeds of both the core and memory. You really dont need to really* 2) Does the "Omega driver" has any side effects? *No, Omega drivers are fine, they are modified ATi drivers with more fixes or performance boosts. You should be just fine with the 6.2s on ATi's site* __________________ XFX HD4890 1024MB @ 950/4400Mhz Have issues with your Catalyst driver? Please report it to ATi