GeForce 4 mx440 > radeon 9600xt wtf?

zuq · Mar 14, 2006, 07:18 PM

First I'll post me system specs:

Windows xp with sp2
msi K7N2 Delta2
Kingston 512ddr 400 x 2 (dual channel)
2200xp+ amd athlon

So when I'm using Gainward GF 4 mx440 I'm getting constant 100 fps in cs 1.6, it only drops in 2 smoke granades, in DoD 1.3 I'm getting constant 80 no drops at all. But when I play on the Radeon 9600xt I get major drops in fps in cs and dod, it drops to like 30-40 fps which is pretty weird and I tried all the drivers(cats, dna, ngo, omega) and nothing helped and I got a pretty decent power supply so thats not the issue. I know there is a search function but I didnt find any answers to my problem, some help would be appreciated.

zuq · Mar 14, 2006, 07:22 PM

I'm sorry I didn't know it got posted like 3 times in a row

Randomletters · Mar 14, 2006, 08:42 PM

did you clean out the nvidia drivers before using the ati drivers

zuq · Mar 14, 2006, 08:59 PM

I did a clean format before

Randomletters · Mar 14, 2006, 09:08 PM

So you took out the gf shut down put in the radeon and reformatted?

What speeds are your core/mem at?

zuq · Mar 14, 2006, 09:13 PM

hm ATI tools displays 500 for core and 300 for memmory

Randomletters · Mar 14, 2006, 09:16 PM

AGP set to 8x?

(Reachin for straws now sorry

zuq · Mar 14, 2006, 09:16 PM

yeah agp x8

Randomletters · Mar 14, 2006, 09:18 PM

could CS and DoD be automatically upping the graphics settings due to the new card and infact going too high? Are you playing at the same res aa/af?

zuq · Mar 14, 2006, 09:21 PM

yeah same res and eveything

Randomletters · Mar 14, 2006, 09:24 PM

under console, type "ati_npatch 0" and type "ati_subdiv 0"

you may also do this as it may help:
in the ati control panel, under 3d--->opengl-->compatibility
enable triple buffering,

Set monitor to highest frequency
Enable Vsync

Randomletters · Mar 14, 2006, 09:34 PM

And when all that fails try the 4.12s but make sure you run driver cleaner in safe mode to fully remove any ati drivers.

fobis · Mar 14, 2006, 10:58 PM

Try enabling "Geometry Instancing" somewhere in the CP/CCC settings. I've heard that that helps.

zuq · Mar 15, 2006, 01:29 AM

4.12 cats and omegas based on them didnt help and enabling "Geometry Instancing" also didny help

Mar 14, 2006, 07:18 PM	#1
zuq DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	GeForce 4 mx440 > radeon 9600xt wtf? First I'll post me system specs: Windows xp with sp2 msi K7N2 Delta2 Kingston 512ddr 400 x 2 (dual channel) 2200xp+ amd athlon So when I'm using Gainward GF 4 mx440 I'm getting constant 100 fps in cs 1.6, it only drops in 2 smoke granades, in DoD 1.3 I'm getting constant 80 no drops at all. But when I play on the Radeon 9600xt I get major drops in fps in cs and dod, it drops to like 30-40 fps which is pretty weird and I tried all the drivers(cats, dna, ngo, omega) and nothing helped and I got a pretty decent power supply so thats not the issue. I know there is a search function but I didnt find any answers to my problem, some help would be appreciated.

Mar 14, 2006, 08:42 PM	#3
Randomletters ))<>(( Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,418 Rep Power: 54	did you clean out the nvidia drivers before using the ati drivers __________________ <----------- Sexy Budget Rig stats to the left.

Mar 14, 2006, 09:08 PM	#5
Randomletters ))<>(( Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,418 Rep Power: 54	So you took out the gf shut down put in the radeon and reformatted? What speeds are your core/mem at? __________________ <----------- Sexy Budget Rig stats to the left.

Mar 14, 2006, 09:16 PM	#7
Randomletters ))<>(( Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,418 Rep Power: 54	AGP set to 8x? (Reachin for straws now sorry __________________ <----------- Sexy Budget Rig stats to the left.

Mar 14, 2006, 09:18 PM	#9
Randomletters ))<>(( Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,418 Rep Power: 54	could CS and DoD be automatically upping the graphics settings due to the new card and infact going too high? Are you playing at the same res aa/af? __________________ <----------- Sexy Budget Rig stats to the left.

Mar 14, 2006, 07:22 PM	Thread Starter #2
zuq DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	I'm sorry I didn't know it got posted like 3 times in a row

Mar 14, 2006, 08:59 PM	Thread Starter #4
zuq DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	I did a clean format before

Mar 14, 2006, 09:13 PM	Thread Starter #6
zuq DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	hm ATI tools displays 500 for core and 300 for memmory

Mar 14, 2006, 09:16 PM	Thread Starter #8
zuq DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	yeah agp x8

Mar 14, 2006, 09:21 PM	Thread Starter #10
zuq DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	yeah same res and eveything

Mar 14, 2006, 09:24 PM	#11
Randomletters ))<>(( Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,418 Rep Power: 54	under console, type "ati_npatch 0" and type "ati_subdiv 0" you may also do this as it may help: in the ati control panel, under 3d--->opengl-->compatibility enable triple buffering, Set monitor to highest frequency Enable Vsync __________________ <----------- Sexy Budget Rig stats to the left. Last edited by Randomletters; Mar 14, 2006 at 09:32 PM.

Mar 14, 2006, 09:34 PM	#12
Randomletters ))<>(( Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,418 Rep Power: 54	And when all that fails try the 4.12s but make sure you run driver cleaner in safe mode to fully remove any ati drivers. __________________ <----------- Sexy Budget Rig stats to the left.

Mar 14, 2006, 10:58 PM	#13
fobis DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 716 Rep Power: 51	Try enabling "Geometry Instancing" somewhere in the CP/CCC settings. I've heard that that helps. __________________ MacBook Pro Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.4 Intel Core 2 Duo 2.33GHz 2GB DDR2-677 ATi Mobility Radeon X1600 256MB 120GB 7200RPM SATA HDD

Mar 15, 2006, 01:29 AM	Thread Starter #14
zuq DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	4.12 cats and omegas based on them didnt help and enabling "Geometry Instancing" also didny help