New AGP card coming: X1950 PRO

Pluvious · Nov 8, 2006, 07:18 PM

Whoa.. check this out..

36 pixel shader processors
8 vertex shader processors
Up to 256-bit 8 channel GDDR3 memory interface
AGP 8X bus interface

Comes with

Silently Cooder - Arctic Cooling Accelero X2

Unique Cooling Performance with 6 Heat Pipes
Voltage Converter Cooling
Patented Vibration Absorption
Noiseless Fan = 0.4 Sone

http://www.powercolor.com/global/mai...ail.asp?id=137

Rumor has it around $250..

Dyre Straits · Nov 8, 2006, 07:26 PM

You need to read the news more often. This is really OLD news.

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...ighlight=X1950

Pluvious · Nov 8, 2006, 07:32 PM

Figures.. hehe.. I've been avoiding the video cards for months due to having maxed out my rig. Sorry ....

niceguyrichy · Nov 8, 2006, 07:47 PM

I'm one of those folk who sells old hardware to fund new, so you've gotta ask if an agp x1950, bought now, is going to be worth anything when it comes time to sell up and finally embrace pcie? just a thought..

Dyre Straits · Nov 8, 2006, 07:52 PM

Well, I already have a X1950 Pro PCIe sitting here and trying to get everything together to do my own upgrade soon. Thought I had it done yesterday, but, it didn't work out.

Pluvious · Nov 8, 2006, 07:55 PM

In my case.. I think it'll be worth the $250-$300 upgrade over my current card. I don't mess with reselling the old ones.. usually they are too old to bother.

My next big updrade will be $1500-2000 (duo,ram,dx10 card, vista..etc) so a little $250 is a small price to pay to extend some life in my rig.

I'm considerng getting the 3.4E proc for $180 too..

CDsDontBurn · Nov 8, 2006, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pluvious

In my case.. I think it'll be worth the $250-$300 upgrade over my current card. I don't mess with reselling the old ones.. usually they are too old to bother.

My next big updrade will be $1500-2000 (duo,ram,dx10 card, vista..etc) so a little $250 is a small price to pay to extend some life in my rig.

I'm considerng getting the 3.4E proc for $180 too..

that's exactly how i feel. I'm trying to get the most out of my rig for about the next year or so. I'm doing all the worth while upgrades ATM that can still transfer over to my next rig (monitor, HDDs, etc.)

I've been searching but i haven't been able to come across an AGP version of the x1950. New Egg doesn't have any, just the PCI-E version. And some of the retail stores i've looked into doesn't have them either.....where can they be found?

Warhammer · Nov 8, 2006, 09:53 PM

I dont know how the agp version will fair but I like the pci-e version Hopefully by then we will see support in other drivers beside Ati. It was a great replacement for my X850XT well worth the upgrade.

NAZ2222 · Nov 8, 2006, 10:05 PM

Hey Pluvious, I too had a simmilar dilema has you, but I took another path, I bought an AMD X2 3800+ for 170€ and an Asrock 939 dual sata2 with AGP and PCI-E for 60€, this way I can use the newer cards! The X1950 Pro coasts 200€ for pci-e, so 50€ rip off there! and this way you could use your memories! If only conroe could use ddr400... I'm looking for a newer card too and maybe and X1950 pro or a X1950xt 256mb!! just my 2 cents

Pluvious · Nov 11, 2006, 07:14 PM

Good idea Naz.. but I'm really eyeing that new Intel chip. AMD was going to be my next upgrade but now.. I'm going to have to wait to get that Core Duo instead.

CdsDontBurn; I was trying to find that card online as well.. and can't find it ANYWHERE. Seems even the retailers are afraid to carry a AGP card.

I think there are a few brands coming out by the end of the year so I'll be sure to post any findings here.

Just Learnin' · Nov 11, 2006, 08:58 PM

That cards release date was supposed to be November 17th.

Pluvious · Nov 11, 2006, 09:01 PM

Cool.. I'm all over it. So you noticed a nice improvement WarHammer?? I have the PE version of the x850. The 36 pipes sound N>I>C>E>.

CDsDontBurn · Nov 12, 2006, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Learnin'

That cards release date was supposed to be November 17th.

if that's the case, then i'll get that card for my gaming rig, and when i build me a small little work station for my work at home PC, i'll put in a 6200 or something. i just need an nVidia card to work from home. If no x1950pro will come in AGP format, then i'll still go ahead w/my plans on getting the 7800gs

Just Learnin' · Nov 12, 2006, 02:24 AM

I may have been wrong about the date. Can't remember where I got that from but there is a preorder here that shows it "Arriving end of November 2006" http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/ATI_AGP_Graphics_Cards.html hope it is sooner personally! Another one is listed at PowerColor http://www.powercolor.com/global/mai...=agp&chp=x1950

CDsDontBurn · Nov 12, 2006, 11:18 AM

will power color be the only manufacturer of the x1950 AGP???

Tipstaff · Nov 12, 2006, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyre Straits

Well, I already have a X1950 Pro PCIe sitting here and trying to get everything together to do my own upgrade soon. Thought I had it done yesterday, but, it didn't work out.

Which card did you pickup, Dyre?

I was trying to hold off upgrading until Powercolor put out their 512mb version, but they are just taking their sweet time to get this out. Couldn't wait any longer as all the deals were all together price wise, so I picked up a HIS X1950 Pro ICEQ3s for $230 CAN (probably gonna pick up another one). So glad I did too, cuz the cooler is just amazing on it. Beautiful card.

Dyre Straits · Nov 12, 2006, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tipstaff

Which card did you pickup, Dyre?

I was trying to hold off upgrading until Powercolor put out their 512mb version, but they are just taking their sweet time to get this out. Couldn't wait any longer as all the deals were all together price wise, so I picked up a HIS X1950 Pro ICEQ3s for $230 CAN (probably gonna pick up another one). So glad I did too, cuz the cooler is just amazing on it. Beautiful card.

The one I have is the 256 MB ViVo. I may actually get to start using it in the next couple of weeks or so.

Pluvious · Nov 12, 2006, 07:29 PM

Looks like Diamond is making a 256MB and 512MB version as well. Core 575 / 1.38Ghz

http://www.diamondmm.com/X1950PRO.php

Never bought Powercolor brand but I have owned Diamond. I would get the PowerColor version .. Diamond is kinda weak IMHO. Plus the PowerColor has better specs.. 600 core and and 1400 Ghz memory.. not to mention the included Artic Cooler.

Just Learnin' · Nov 12, 2006, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

will power color be the only manufacturer of the x1950 AGP???

Looks like Pluvious answered that question for you! http://www.diamondmm.com/X1950PRO.php Also one of the previous posts liked to a GeCube model and a Powercolor model so....

CDsDontBurn · Nov 12, 2006, 09:37 PM

ya, but that website doesn't have any pricing, so....

Warhammer · Nov 12, 2006, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pluvious

Cool.. I'm all over it. So you noticed a nice improvement WarHammer?? I have the PE version of the x850. The 36 pipes sound N>I>C>E>.

Yes thats what I replaced, it is well worth the upgrade I bought mine from Dell of all places but my wife had a 50.00 coupon from her new lappy she bought. They put em on sale and ended up costing 206.00 shipped.Its and Ati retail vers. The only problem I have is and not really a problem they have a special set of Ati drivers just for the 1950 Im hoping Omega helps us out with his next driver release. Other than that it will smoke the 850.

Pluvious · Nov 16, 2006, 09:20 PM

Interesting tidbit of info at this Austrainian online dealer..

Shipment delayed to end of November due to more development on BIOS being done by ATI

http://tinyurl.com/yegtqz

BTW: $349 aus $$ = $265 US $$.

EDIT: Hmm.. can't get the link to work for some reason.. here's a screenshot:

H3X4D3C1M4L · Nov 16, 2006, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pluvious

Interesting tidbit of info at this Austrainian online dealer..

Shipment delayed to end of November due to more development on BIOS being done by ATI

http://tinyurl.com/yegtqz

BTW: $349 aus $$ = $265 US $$.

EDIT: Hmm.. can't get the link to work for some reason.. here's a screenshot:

Smells fishy to me

Seeing as ATI is now AMD.

Ronbos56 · Dec 4, 2006, 06:10 AM

Just purchased a Visiontek X1950 Pro XGE (AGP) from Best Buy. I'm using the the drivers from the CD - (Cat 6.8)

3DMark03 - 14488

3DMark05 - 9197

3DMark06 - 4086

The card cannot overclock not even 1 mhz, but its not needed anyway...
this thing flys. Its worth the money $299.00 plus tax.

Pluvious · Dec 4, 2006, 07:25 AM

Nice to hear.. You might get a boost with newer drivers as well. I'd certainly try them. The 6.12 Beta's are floating around too. That's the 256MB version right?..

Dyre Straits · Dec 4, 2006, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronbos56

Just purchased a Visiontek X1950 Pro XGE (AGP) from Best Buy. I'm using the the drivers from the CD - (Cat 6.8)

3DMark03 - 14488

3DMark05 - 9197

3DMark06 - 4086

The card cannot overclock not even 1 mhz, but its not needed anyway...
this thing flys. Its worth the money $299.00 plus tax.

Does it not overclock or have you not unlocked the overclocking feature?

If it's anything like my X1950 Pro PCIe card, it should overclock pretty well.

On my very, very limited and borrowed mobo with an AMD Sempron 3100+, I was able to get 13,526 in 3DMark03. It's the only one of the newer versions that I can even get a result from as the rest of them don't even recognize my graphics adapter as anything but a Generic VGA adapter.

JohnDoe47 · Dec 4, 2006, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

will power color be the only manufacturer of the x1950 AGP???

There will also be a Sapphire version

which i would prefer by far compared to a powercolor or a gecube mate.

http://www.sapphiretech.com/uk/produ...gpid=168&grp=2

CDsDontBurn · Dec 4, 2006, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick0323

There will also be a Sapphire version

which i would prefer by far compared to a powercolor or a gecube mate.

http://www.sapphiretech.com/uk/produ...gpid=168&grp=2

yea, i saw that the other day. I am interested in it, but there's little supply of the sapphire card as it is. And the ones that are available, are a bit expensive IMO. But then again, that's how much i paid for my x800. However, back then, AGP was at it's prime.

ATM, i'm torn between upgrading my video card and not.

Pluvious · Dec 4, 2006, 06:37 PM

$250 is fair IMHO.. 512MB version:

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...uctCode=326860

Dark Lord · Dec 4, 2006, 06:48 PM

i wonder how badly cpu limited i would be if i went with that 1950. its really quite tempting to pick one up.

Nov 8, 2006, 07:18 PM	#1
Pluvious Elisha = hottie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: USA CA. SF Bay Area Posts: 1,318 Rep Power: 0	New AGP card coming: X1950 PRO Whoa.. check this out.. 36 pixel shader processors 8 vertex shader processors Up to 256-bit 8 channel GDDR3 memory interface AGP 8X bus interface Comes with Silently Cooder - Arctic Cooling Accelero X2 Unique Cooling Performance with 6 Heat Pipes Voltage Converter Cooling Patented Vibration Absorption Noiseless Fan = 0.4 Sone http://www.powercolor.com/global/mai...ail.asp?id=137 Rumor has it around $250.. __________________

Nov 8, 2006, 07:32 PM	Thread Starter #3
Pluvious Elisha = hottie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: USA CA. SF Bay Area Posts: 1,318 Rep Power: 0	Figures.. hehe.. I've been avoiding the video cards for months due to having maxed out my rig. Sorry .... __________________

Nov 8, 2006, 07:55 PM	Thread Starter #6
Pluvious Elisha = hottie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: USA CA. SF Bay Area Posts: 1,318 Rep Power: 0	In my case.. I think it'll be worth the $250-$300 upgrade over my current card. I don't mess with reselling the old ones.. usually they are too old to bother. My next big updrade will be $1500-2000 (duo,ram,dx10 card, vista..etc) so a little $250 is a small price to pay to extend some life in my rig. I'm considerng getting the 3.4E proc for $180 too.. __________________

Nov 8, 2006, 10:05 PM	#9
NAZ2222 HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: May 2005 Location: Portugal Posts: 397 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Hey Pluvious, I too had a simmilar dilema has you, but I took another path, I bought an AMD X2 3800+ for 170€ and an Asrock 939 dual sata2 with AGP and PCI-E for 60€, this way I can use the newer cards! The X1950 Pro coasts 200€ for pci-e, so 50€ rip off there! and this way you could use your memories! If only conroe could use ddr400... I'm looking for a newer card too and maybe and X1950 pro or a X1950xt 256mb!! just my 2 cents __________________ Why do we fall? So that we learn how to pick our self's up.

Nov 11, 2006, 07:14 PM	Thread Starter #10
Pluvious Elisha = hottie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: USA CA. SF Bay Area Posts: 1,318 Rep Power: 0	Good idea Naz.. but I'm really eyeing that new Intel chip. AMD was going to be my next upgrade but now.. I'm going to have to wait to get that Core Duo instead. CdsDontBurn; I was trying to find that card online as well.. and can't find it ANYWHERE. Seems even the retailers are afraid to carry a AGP card. I think there are a few brands coming out by the end of the year so I'll be sure to post any findings here. __________________

Nov 8, 2006, 09:53 PM	#8
Warhammer DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 56 Rep Power: 0	I dont know how the agp version will fair but I like the pci-e version Hopefully by then we will see support in other drivers beside Ati. It was a great replacement for my X850XT well worth the upgrade.

Nov 11, 2006, 08:58 PM	#11
Just Learnin' HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 1,414 Rep Power: 56 System Specs	That cards release date was supposed to be November 17th.

Nov 11, 2006, 09:01 PM	Thread Starter #12
Pluvious Elisha = hottie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: USA CA. SF Bay Area Posts: 1,318 Rep Power: 0	Cool.. I'm all over it. So you noticed a nice improvement WarHammer?? I have the PE version of the x850. The 36 pipes sound N>I>C>E>. __________________

Nov 12, 2006, 02:24 AM	#14
Just Learnin' HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 1,414 Rep Power: 56 System Specs	I may have been wrong about the date. Can't remember where I got that from but there is a preorder here that shows it "Arriving end of November 2006" http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/ATI_AGP_Graphics_Cards.html hope it is sooner personally! Another one is listed at PowerColor http://www.powercolor.com/global/mai...=agp&chp=x1950

Nov 12, 2006, 11:18 AM	#15
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,740 Rep Power: 231 System Specs	will power color be the only manufacturer of the x1950 AGP??? __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Nov 12, 2006, 07:29 PM	Thread Starter #18
Pluvious Elisha = hottie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: USA CA. SF Bay Area Posts: 1,318 Rep Power: 0	Looks like Diamond is making a 256MB and 512MB version as well. Core 575 / 1.38Ghz http://www.diamondmm.com/X1950PRO.php Never bought Powercolor brand but I have owned Diamond. I would get the PowerColor version .. Diamond is kinda weak IMHO. Plus the PowerColor has better specs.. 600 core and and 1400 Ghz memory.. not to mention the included Artic Cooler. __________________ Last edited by Pluvious; Nov 12, 2006 at 07:34 PM.

Nov 12, 2006, 09:37 PM	#20
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,740 Rep Power: 231 System Specs	ya, but that website doesn't have any pricing, so.... __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Nov 16, 2006, 09:20 PM	Thread Starter #22
Pluvious Elisha = hottie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: USA CA. SF Bay Area Posts: 1,318 Rep Power: 0	Interesting tidbit of info at this Austrainian online dealer.. Shipment delayed to end of November due to more development on BIOS being done by ATI http://tinyurl.com/yegtqz BTW: $349 aus $$ = $265 US $$. EDIT: Hmm.. can't get the link to work for some reason.. here's a screenshot: __________________

Dec 4, 2006, 06:10 AM	#24
Ronbos56 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	Just purchased a Visiontek X1950 Pro XGE (AGP) from Best Buy. I'm using the the drivers from the CD - (Cat 6.8) 3DMark03 - 14488 3DMark05 - 9197 3DMark06 - 4086 The card cannot overclock not even 1 mhz, but its not needed anyway... this thing flys. Its worth the money $299.00 plus tax. __________________ AMD FX55 @ 2.79 2 x 1GB OCZ [COLOR=#37329b]GX XTC PC 3200[/COLOR], Gigabyte K8NSC 939, Antec 900, LG Flatron 19" (2MS), LG 18X DL, Memorex DVD, Mitsumi Floppy w/card reader, WD 500 sata and BFG TECH 650 PS, X1900 Pro Visiontek XGE 256 mb, Artic Freezer 64 Pro cpu cooler, Logitech G15 Keyboard and G5 Mouse, Func Surface 1030 Limited edition mouse pad

Dec 4, 2006, 07:25 AM	Thread Starter #25
Pluvious Elisha = hottie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: USA CA. SF Bay Area Posts: 1,318 Rep Power: 0	Nice to hear.. You might get a boost with newer drivers as well. I'd certainly try them. The 6.12 Beta's are floating around too. That's the 256MB version right?.. __________________

Dec 4, 2006, 06:37 PM	Thread Starter #29
Pluvious Elisha = hottie Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: USA CA. SF Bay Area Posts: 1,318 Rep Power: 0	$250 is fair IMHO.. 512MB version: http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...uctCode=326860 __________________

Dec 4, 2006, 06:48 PM	#30
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 125 System Specs	i wonder how badly cpu limited i would be if i went with that 1950. its really quite tempting to pick one up. __________________