9500 and 9600 ... clear it up for me

Vampyromaniac · Mar 20, 2003, 01:45 AM

OK, please what chips do each of these cards use?

9500
9500 pro
9600
9600 pro

And speeds would be nice, too, if you know em.

Maybe someone can give an Official word

Vampyromaniac · Mar 20, 2003, 02:08 AM

OK, found some stuff . . .

9500pro and 9500 are both R300
9600pro is RV350 (supposed a mix of R300 and R350)
not sure about the plain 9600, but I'm guessing RV350

Speeds I found:
9500pro . . . 275/275
9600pro . . . 400/300

wonder if they are right

~~craig588~~ · Mar 20, 2003, 02:56 AM

yeah, sounds right. The 9600pro is a little misleading though, it's acctually supposed to be slower than the 9500pro for some reason, I'm not sure why.

digitalwanderer · Mar 20, 2003, 04:12 AM

9600 only got 4 pipes

Chaos · Mar 23, 2003, 10:16 PM

My Sapphire 9500 Pro is clocked @ 277/270

digitalwanderer · Mar 23, 2003, 10:31 PM

From my understanding the 9500 is faster on paper than the 9600, but in actuality the 9600 is gonna be a little faster than the 9500. (I'm a little confused too, but that's what Hellbinder said and I do trust his judgement on such things as he knows a whole bunch more than I do about it.

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Zardon · Mar 23, 2003, 11:10 PM

The RV350 will be made available in two forms - the Radeon 9600 Pro and the Radeon 9600. The Pro will feature a 400MHz core clock and 300MHz DDR memory (effectively 600MHz), while the non-Pro will be clocked at 325/200DDR (effectively 325/400). Note that both of the engine clocks are higher than the Radeon 9500 Pro (45% and 18% for the Pro and non-Pro, respectively), but only the Pro features more raw memory bandwidth. Remember that the Radeon 9500 Pro will enjoy higher fill rates courtesy of its 8-pipe design, but the Radeon 9600 Pro's higher clock rate and significantly improved memory controller should be able to eat into that advantage.

~~Asuka~~ · Mar 24, 2003, 12:24 AM

The problems of the 9600 are the following:
- Both cards, 9600 and 9600 Pro, will only have four pipelines

(unlike 9500 Pro, which has 8)
- the new design has been especially made for a 128bit bus, so you will *not* be able to activate the 256bit bus on the 128MB ones

So, they should be at least somewhat slower... even if they will (supposedly) be clocked somewhat higher.

Mar 20, 2003, 01:45 AM	#1
Vampyromaniac confutatis maledictis Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere dark Posts: 5,974 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	9500 and 9600 ... clear it up for me OK, please what chips do each of these cards use? 9500 9500 pro 9600 9600 pro And speeds would be nice, too, if you know em. Maybe someone can give an Official word __________________ *Digitalis 3.3* Athlon 64 3000 // ASUS K8V SE Deluxe // 1024MB PC3200 (2-2-2-10 1T) ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Pro // 20" Dell 2005FPW (DVI) M-Audio Revo 7.1 + Philips Acoustic Edge // Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 320/16 Western Digital WD3200KS + 120/8 Seagate 7200.7 NEC ND-3550A 16x DVD±RW + Lite-On 52x24x CD-RW Antec Sonata case // 480W Antec TruePower personal bests \|\| Aq'3: 46796 \| 3D'01: 20461 \| 3D'03: 6336 \| 3D'05: 2677 \| PC'04: 4605 \| PC'02: 7691,9092,1250

Mar 20, 2003, 02:08 AM	Thread Starter #2
Vampyromaniac confutatis maledictis Join Date: May 2002 Location: somewhere dark Posts: 5,974 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	OK, found some stuff . . . 9500pro and 9500 are both R300 9600pro is RV350 (supposed a mix of R300 and R350) not sure about the plain 9600, but I'm guessing RV350 Speeds I found: 9500pro . . . 275/275 9600pro . . . 400/300 wonder if they are right __________________ *Digitalis 3.3* Athlon 64 3000 // ASUS K8V SE Deluxe // 1024MB PC3200 (2-2-2-10 1T) ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Pro // 20" Dell 2005FPW (DVI) M-Audio Revo 7.1 + Philips Acoustic Edge // Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 320/16 Western Digital WD3200KS + 120/8 Seagate 7200.7 NEC ND-3550A 16x DVD±RW + Lite-On 52x24x CD-RW Antec Sonata case // 480W Antec TruePower personal bests \|\| Aq'3: 46796 \| 3D'01: 20461 \| 3D'03: 6336 \| 3D'05: 2677 \| PC'04: 4605 \| PC'02: 7691,9092,1250

Mar 20, 2003, 04:12 AM	#4
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,619 Rep Power: 0	9600 only got 4 pipes __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

Mar 23, 2003, 10:16 PM	#5
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,269 Rep Power: 167 System Specs	My Sapphire 9500 Pro is clocked @ 277/270 __________________

Mar 23, 2003, 10:31 PM	#6
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,619 Rep Power: 0	Nice and simple. From my understanding the 9500 is faster on paper than the 9600, but in actuality the 9600 is gonna be a little faster than the 9500. (I'm a little confused too, but that's what Hellbinder said and I do trust his judgement on such things as he knows a whole bunch more than I do about it. ) __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

Mar 20, 2003, 02:56 AM	#3
~~craig588~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In clothing Posts: 3,510 Rep Power: 0	yeah, sounds right. The 9600pro is a little misleading though, it's acctually supposed to be slower than the 9500pro for some reason, I'm not sure why.

Mar 23, 2003, 11:10 PM	#7
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	anandtech The RV350 will be made available in two forms - the Radeon 9600 Pro and the Radeon 9600. The Pro will feature a 400MHz core clock and 300MHz DDR memory (effectively 600MHz), while the non-Pro will be clocked at 325/200DDR (effectively 325/400). Note that both of the engine clocks are higher than the Radeon 9500 Pro (45% and 18% for the Pro and non-Pro, respectively), but only the Pro features more raw memory bandwidth. Remember that the Radeon 9500 Pro will enjoy higher fill rates courtesy of its 8-pipe design, but the Radeon 9600 Pro's higher clock rate and significantly improved memory controller should be able to eat into that advantage.

Mar 24, 2003, 12:24 AM	#8
~~Asuka~~ BANNED Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 579 Rep Power: 0	The problems of the 9600 are the following: - Both cards, 9600 and 9600 Pro, will only have four pipelines (unlike 9500 Pro, which has 8) - the new design has been especially made for a 128bit bus, so you will not be able to activate the 256bit bus on the 128MB ones So, they should be at least somewhat slower... even if they will (supposedly) be clocked somewhat higher.