Crossfire X !?

omega552003 · Nov 5, 2007, 12:24 AM

Is this what all of us Multi-GPU users are waiting for?!

Is there any official information on this? From what i can gather this will support: 2,3,4 (more?) cards in crossfire? 8 monitors in crossfire? Crossfire Physics? Driver side Crossfiring? also what is the motherboard chipset for this? Is it the Intel X38? Also what cards are going to support this? is it backwards compatible to the X1950pro?

omega552003 · Nov 5, 2007, 12:28 AM

Did some reading and answered one of my questions, It should work on ANY chipset with 2 PEG compatible slots or more, even nVidia Chipsets.

**kris23** · Nov 5, 2007, 03:03 AM

yea man.... works with 2,3,4 slots and it works in 680i boards, and im guessing different standards of PCI-e as well....

Judas · Nov 6, 2007, 01:20 AM

i'll be very happy with they get crossfired multi monitor support..

playing 19"x3 or larger is pretty slick for a FPS...

H82LUZ · Nov 6, 2007, 03:49 AM

Are you sure that is not the new X790 Amd chipset? I seen some pics from ASUS and they have 4 pciE slots with a main bridge to the other 2 cards and they all use the crossfire bridge that you get with the cards,Just the Mo-bo manufacture is to supply the main bridge for 4 cards.

Judas · Nov 6, 2007, 06:45 PM

only problem i forsee is heat..... and a whole log of it with all that being that close

ChaosMinionX · Nov 7, 2007, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kris23

yea man.... works with 2,3,4 slots and it works in 680i boards, and im guessing different standards of PCI-e as well....

Actually... Crossfire and any iteration of it in multi GPU configurations is the only Multi GPU config that only requires that a mobo have PCI-E slots to accompany the cards, and not proprietary drivers and the use of Nvidia's MCP's to run SLI.

SLI is only used by Nvidia, and only on their boards/chipsets, the only time this has ever been different is on the upcoming Intel dual LGA771 "Skull Trail" gaming mobo which uses 2 MCP's to enable SLI and Quad SLI.

Quote:

Originally Posted by H82LUZ

Are you sure that is not the new X790 Amd chipset? I seen some pics from ASUS and they have 4 pciE slots with a main bridge to the other 2 cards and they all use the crossfire bridge that you get with the cards,Just the Mo-bo manufacture is to supply the main bridge for 4 cards.

Yes thats a picture from the upcoming AMD 790FX chipset, which it hasnt really been confirmed what sort of wacky Multi GPU solution AMD is cooking up, be it Tri-Fire, Quad-Fire, or someone even went as far to say that the upcoming R680 GPU (said to be dual RV670's on a single PCB) paired with the 790FX will be able to run "OctoCrossfire" but that seems more of a stretch of the imagination as the TDP for such a rig would be outrageous.

Judas · Nov 7, 2007, 05:01 PM

octofire.....sounds like a chaos rig to me...

ChaosMinionX · Nov 7, 2007, 08:19 PM

My next rig is based on Penryn Quad/R680

Judas · Nov 7, 2007, 09:57 PM

mmm imagine a intel V8 + OctoCrossFire + 16gb of ram + 6 top end sata II drives in raid 0..... that would pwn

**kris23** · Nov 8, 2007, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas

mmm imagine a intel V8 + OctoCrossFire + 16gb of ram + 6 top end sata II drives in raid 0..... that would pwn

ya and Z would probably get it the first day its out....

Judas · Nov 8, 2007, 06:22 PM

...well... he's halfway there

**kris23** · Nov 9, 2007, 12:23 AM

lol no kidding.... he already has V8 minus the Crossfire.....

***Veridian3*** · Nov 9, 2007, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas

...well... he's halfway there

or maybe more

Judas · Nov 13, 2007, 07:01 AM

.....

I'm guessing Z doesn't update his hardware profile often enough..... I'd assume quite the massive Motherboard CHANGE... considering the orginal one only provided 1x PCI-ex 16x

ChaosMinionX · Nov 13, 2007, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas

.....

I'm guessing Z doesn't update his hardware profile often enough..... I'd assume quite the massive Motherboard CHANGE... considering the orginal one only provided 1x PCI-ex 16x

Mmmm I am debating a dual harper with skulltrail build...I would imagine Z has had the same thing up his sleeve.

Judas · Nov 13, 2007, 10:28 PM

i gotta play the lotto more often..

or get these loans paid off quicker so i could screw around with that kinda stuff lol

V8VENOM · Nov 20, 2007, 02:42 AM

ATI have disabled Crossfire in their Cat 7.11 Beta drivers (aka Crysis hot fix) for Vista users.

Simple test:
1. Load CC
2. Check "Enable Crossfire"
3. Hit OK
4. Load CC

What do you see -- I see "Enable Crossfire" UNCHECKED! I'm Vista x64 and didn't have this problem with Cat 7.10. I think ATI need to seriously think about making just two cards work before moving onto 3 or 4. Not to mention that <5% of the games on the market can effectively use Crossfire.

It would be nice to see ATI just provide better designs that don't require the power consumption of an entire city block.

ChaosMinionX · Nov 20, 2007, 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V8VENOM

ATI have disabled Crossfire in their Cat 7.11 Beta drivers (aka Crysis hot fix) for Vista users.

Simple test:
1. Load CC
2. Check "Enable Crossfire"
3. Hit OK
4. Load CC

What do you see -- I see "Enable Crossfire" UNCHECKED! I'm Vista x64 and didn't have this problem with Cat 7.10. I think ATI need to seriously think about making just two cards work before moving onto 3 or 4. Not to mention that <5% of the games on the market can effectively use Crossfire.

It would be nice to see ATI just provide better designs that don't require the power consumption of an entire city block.

Working fine here

Vista x64 with 2x HD3870's

**kris23** · Nov 20, 2007, 03:14 AM

lol octofire is not possible 3870 X2 doesnt have the necessary crossfire bridges, limit 2 cards to a system....

H3X4D3C1M4L · Nov 21, 2007, 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H82LUZ

Are you sure that is not the new X790 Amd chipset? I seen some pics from ASUS and they have 4 pciE slots with a main bridge to the other 2 cards and they all use the crossfire bridge that you get with the cards,Just the Mo-bo manufacture is to supply the main bridge for 4 cards.

That's the way I understood it.... it comes on X790's only. Anything less (even on AMD chipsets) and you get only 2 card Crossfire.

There are motherboards that will allow various different combos of 3 - 4 card Crossfire but a few of them require every usable slot be taken up because of the dual slot cards. Some allow only 4 single slot cards and others allow only 2 dual slot, 2 single slot. But now that you can mix and match cards freely, that seems to be less of an issue I guess.

Still, it'll be interesting to see if 4 cards scale as well as going from 1 to 2 would

Judas · Nov 21, 2007, 08:17 AM

my hopes are high...

i'm also hoping that one of the mobo manufacturers manages to try and squeeze a set of 4 dual slot pci-ex slot setup.... i think it's manageable.. seeing as there is 8 addin slots.....

just imagine the heat and now imagine if each dual slot card had 2 gpu's per... mmmmmmm

Nov 5, 2007, 12:24 AM	#1
omega552003 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Crossfire X !? Is this what all of us Multi-GPU users are waiting for?! Is there any official information on this? From what i can gather this will support: 2,3,4 (more?) cards in crossfire? 8 monitors in crossfire? Crossfire Physics? Driver side Crossfiring? also what is the motherboard chipset for this? Is it the Intel X38? Also what cards are going to support this? is it backwards compatible to the X1950pro?

Nov 5, 2007, 03:03 AM	#3
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,990 Rep Power: 121 System Specs	yea man.... works with 2,3,4 slots and it works in 680i boards, and im guessing different standards of PCI-e as well.... __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Nov 6, 2007, 03:49 AM	#5
H82LUZ HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cobourg ,Ontario ,Canada Posts: 114 Rep Power: 53 System Specs	Are you sure that is not the new X790 Amd chipset? I seen some pics from ASUS and they have 4 pciE slots with a main bridge to the other 2 cards and they all use the crossfire bridge that you get with the cards,Just the Mo-bo manufacture is to supply the main bridge for 4 cards. __________________

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Nov 9, 2007, 12:23 AM	#13
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,990 Rep Power: 121 System Specs	lol no kidding.... he already has V8 minus the Crossfire..... __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Nov 5, 2007, 12:28 AM	Thread Starter #2
omega552003 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Did some reading and answered one of my questions, It should work on ANY chipset with 2 PEG compatible slots or more, even nVidia Chipsets.

Nov 20, 2007, 02:42 AM	#18
V8VENOM DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 33 Rep Power: 0	ATI have disabled Crossfire in their Cat 7.11 Beta drivers (aka Crysis hot fix) for Vista users. Simple test: 1. Load CC 2. Check "Enable Crossfire" 3. Hit OK 4. Load CC What do you see -- I see "Enable Crossfire" UNCHECKED! I'm Vista x64 and didn't have this problem with Cat 7.10. I think ATI need to seriously think about making just two cards work before moving onto 3 or 4. Not to mention that <5% of the games on the market can effectively use Crossfire. It would be nice to see ATI just provide better designs that don't require the power consumption of an entire city block.

Nov 20, 2007, 03:14 AM	#20
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,990 Rep Power: 121 System Specs	lol octofire is not possible 3870 X2 doesnt have the necessary crossfire bridges, limit 2 cards to a system.... __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!