powercolor x1650 512mb agp

kexet77 · Jan 10, 2008, 05:29 PM

hi there guys,
first of all, im not so good at engslish, but i hope ill understand me.

bought a powercolor x1650 512mb agp today. but i cant get it working.

first time i put it in the computer there was no problem. istalled the drivers from the cd that came with it, and restarted.

then windows didnt start. after the welcome screen it just turned black.

i restarted in safe mode, unistalled drivers from divice maneger. then i downloaded the latest catalyst from ati hompage, when i was about to install thoose i got the massage: "this drivers are to old compare to ur windows version".

so i installed the latest omega drivers insted and when windows loaded i got "windows host process (rundll32) has stopped working). so, back to safemode and remove omega.

restarted in normal mode and tried to install drivers from cd again, now the screen just turn black after a couple of mins and i must close the computer with button.

i just cant think of anyting else to try, so please if someone had the same problems please tell me.

system:
vista 32 (latest updates installed)
amd 3400+
1gb ram

thx,
erik from swe

**kris23** · Jan 10, 2008, 05:51 PM

before you installed the card, did you remove ALL of the old drivers from your system? this is very important. especially if you were using integrated graphics or an old graphics card.

now my next question, what was your previous video device?

kexet77 · Jan 10, 2008, 05:54 PM

yes i did. had a 1600 pro that crashed last week. so i took an old card (geforce 6600) meanwile and that works fine.

**kris23** · Jan 10, 2008, 06:00 PM

and you uninstalled all the geforce drivers correct? this is usually the kind of problem that happens when the drivers arent COMPLETELY removed from the system.

if this was done directly from the 1600PRO then it would have been much more painless

since you cleaned it out, all i can say is to try again and install the 7.12 official drivers for vista and see if it still happens...

if it still goes on, all i can think of is use something like drivercleaner and remove all parts belonging to your video card drivers.

kexet77 · Jan 10, 2008, 06:10 PM

the geforce drivers are still installed. how to i uninstall theese? there isint anyting in "Add/remove" program in crontrolpanel. the old 1600pro drivers are way gone. thats for sure.

**kris23** · Jan 10, 2008, 06:19 PM

no wonder, did the old nvidia drivers install without any issues? you may need to download the nvidia drivers from the site and command the installer to remove them.

thats the best route i can think of

kexet77 · Jan 10, 2008, 06:44 PM

when i installed the geforce card after the crash? yea no problems.

uninstalled all previus drivers (nvidia and ati) and tried to install the new card once more. same problem. screen just turnes black during installation...

**kris23** · Jan 10, 2008, 06:50 PM

if you can, i suggest just reformatting and reinstalling the OS

a pretty big hassle but its better than an unstable computer.

kexet77 · Jan 10, 2008, 06:55 PM

thats true. but i rather send this lowprice-shitcard back to the store and buy a new computer. dont got time for problems when i need the computer for homework.

so tired of powercolor. owned like 3-4 cards the last 5 years. not a single one has worked without any problems....

**kris23** · Jan 10, 2008, 06:59 PM

lol sounds like something i'd say..........

but yea, if you want, we can help you out with that new system.

kexet77 · Jan 10, 2008, 08:53 PM

i think i came up with something here. i manage to install drivers (after running DH driver cleaning). but after i restart and windows is loading i get an error from my screen: "out of range".

could this mean that the resulation that windows wanna go with doesnt work with my screen? or any idéas? the wierd thing is that the loading screen is really really big so it seams that the res is like 800*600 or something... and that souldnt be any problem with my 24" samsung tft...

**kris23** · Jan 10, 2008, 08:55 PM

that usually happens if you adjust the refresh rate too high

kexet77 · Jan 10, 2008, 09:10 PM

but i cant acces windows and dont adjust anything there? the screen says 60 hz if i press the info button...

**kris23** · Jan 10, 2008, 11:43 PM

so you tried manually setting it at 1920x1200? and you got an out o0f range error?

if so then there should be settings for that in the catalyst control panel

kexet77 · Jan 11, 2008, 08:37 AM

as soon as i installed catalyst controlpanel and the drivers windows wont load. so i cant sett any res. tried to set it to 800*600 before installation but it generates the same error.

**kris23** · Jan 12, 2008, 01:27 AM

do you by any chance have a CRT around? if the card has S-video outs try even a TV

i cant really say anything as i have never really had this problem....

cause_of_chaos · Jan 12, 2008, 08:25 PM

Hi. If you boot your PC holding F8, you should be brought to the Windows boot menu. If you select "Boot using VGA" or something like that, change your resolution and refresh rate in Windows and restart, it might sort this issue.

I had a similar issue when first trying to use my HD TV. Hope this helps...

cause_of_chaos

Jan 10, 2008, 05:29 PM	#1
kexet77 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	powercolor x1650 512mb agp hi there guys, first of all, im not so good at engslish, but i hope ill understand me. bought a powercolor x1650 512mb agp today. but i cant get it working. first time i put it in the computer there was no problem. istalled the drivers from the cd that came with it, and restarted. then windows didnt start. after the welcome screen it just turned black. i restarted in safe mode, unistalled drivers from divice maneger. then i downloaded the latest catalyst from ati hompage, when i was about to install thoose i got the massage: "this drivers are to old compare to ur windows version". so i installed the latest omega drivers insted and when windows loaded i got "windows host process (rundll32) has stopped working). so, back to safemode and remove omega. restarted in normal mode and tried to install drivers from cd again, now the screen just turn black after a couple of mins and i must close the computer with button. i just cant think of anyting else to try, so please if someone had the same problems please tell me. system: vista 32 (latest updates installed) amd 3400+ 1gb ram thx, erik from swe

Jan 10, 2008, 05:51 PM	#2
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	before you installed the card, did you remove ALL of the old drivers from your system? this is very important. especially if you were using integrated graphics or an old graphics card. now my next question, what was your previous video device? __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jan 10, 2008, 06:00 PM	#4
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	and you uninstalled all the geforce drivers correct? this is usually the kind of problem that happens when the drivers arent COMPLETELY removed from the system. if this was done directly from the 1600PRO then it would have been much more painless since you cleaned it out, all i can say is to try again and install the 7.12 official drivers for vista and see if it still happens... if it still goes on, all i can think of is use something like drivercleaner and remove all parts belonging to your video card drivers. __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jan 10, 2008, 06:19 PM	#6
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	no wonder, did the old nvidia drivers install without any issues? you may need to download the nvidia drivers from the site and command the installer to remove them. thats the best route i can think of __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jan 10, 2008, 06:50 PM	#8
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	if you can, i suggest just reformatting and reinstalling the OS a pretty big hassle but its better than an unstable computer. __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jan 10, 2008, 05:54 PM	Thread Starter #3
kexet77 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	yes i did. had a 1600 pro that crashed last week. so i took an old card (geforce 6600) meanwile and that works fine.

Jan 10, 2008, 06:10 PM	Thread Starter #5
kexet77 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	the geforce drivers are still installed. how to i uninstall theese? there isint anyting in "Add/remove" program in crontrolpanel. the old 1600pro drivers are way gone. thats for sure.

Jan 10, 2008, 06:44 PM	Thread Starter #7
kexet77 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	when i installed the geforce card after the crash? yea no problems. uninstalled all previus drivers (nvidia and ati) and tried to install the new card once more. same problem. screen just turnes black during installation...

Jan 10, 2008, 06:55 PM	Thread Starter #9
kexet77 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	thats true. but i rather send this lowprice-shitcard back to the store and buy a new computer. dont got time for problems when i need the computer for homework. so tired of powercolor. owned like 3-4 cards the last 5 years. not a single one has worked without any problems....

Jan 10, 2008, 06:59 PM	#10
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	lol sounds like something i'd say.......... but yea, if you want, we can help you out with that new system. __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jan 10, 2008, 08:53 PM	Thread Starter #11
kexet77 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	i think i came up with something here. i manage to install drivers (after running DH driver cleaning). but after i restart and windows is loading i get an error from my screen: "out of range". could this mean that the resulation that windows wanna go with doesnt work with my screen? or any idéas? the wierd thing is that the loading screen is really really big so it seams that the res is like 800*600 or something... and that souldnt be any problem with my 24" samsung tft...

Jan 10, 2008, 08:55 PM	#12
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	that usually happens if you adjust the refresh rate too high __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jan 10, 2008, 09:10 PM	Thread Starter #13
kexet77 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	but i cant acces windows and dont adjust anything there? the screen says 60 hz if i press the info button...

Jan 10, 2008, 11:43 PM	#14
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	so you tried manually setting it at 1920x1200? and you got an out o0f range error? if so then there should be settings for that in the catalyst control panel __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jan 11, 2008, 08:37 AM	Thread Starter #15
kexet77 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	as soon as i installed catalyst controlpanel and the drivers windows wont load. so i cant sett any res. tried to set it to 800*600 before installation but it generates the same error.

Jan 12, 2008, 01:27 AM	#16
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,017 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	do you by any chance have a CRT around? if the card has S-video outs try even a TV i cant really say anything as i have never really had this problem.... __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jan 12, 2008, 08:25 PM	#17
cause_of_chaos SEGA Europe Limited Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: London, United Kingdom Posts: 133 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Hi. If you boot your PC holding F8, you should be brought to the Windows boot menu. If you select "Boot using VGA" or something like that, change your resolution and refresh rate in Windows and restart, it might sort this issue. I had a similar issue when first trying to use my HD TV. Hope this helps... cause_of_chaos __________________ AMD Phenom II 965 Black Edition @ 3.4Ghz 4Gb Crucial Ballistix PC2 8500 ~ 800 FSB {Timings 4-4-4-12} Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe CrossfireX Mobo ~ 2002 Bios MSI ATI RX3870 512Mb PCI-e 2.0 Graphics card Creative Audigy2 ZS Platinum Sound card (SB0350 10k2 [e800])