HD4850 temperature

dataxa · Mar 27, 2009, 06:08 PM

My screen resolution is 1680x1050 and catalys control center shows me temperature 90 degrees in idle state, where fan is working 45% - 55%. When i play game, then temp goes to 115+ degrees with 100% fan cooling. COD4,5 played fine, but lately i tried merchants of brooklyn and wheelman and now after 5 - 15 minutis of play, pc shuts down immideatly! I am quite dissapointed in AMD again!! They can make cheap and good cards but behind the scenes, you still get burnt in one way or another. Never had problem with nvidia, no idea why i bought amd. Anyway, can anyone help me on this matter? I have win xp and latest ati drivers.

Chaos · Mar 27, 2009, 06:41 PM

1st does your case have good airflow as the 4850 runs hot. If not try removing the side panel of your case and see if it still happens. Set the fan speed to manual and try 75% and see what happens to your temps. 115+ is too high. The only single 4850 I had used the stock cooler and it idled around 70-75c with the fan on auto but was better with the fan speed fixed at 70-75%

dataxa · Mar 28, 2009, 02:16 PM

85 degrees without side panel and vent at 40%. If i click enable manual fan control and put slider to 100% then why does not fan go to 100% but stay on 40% as its still on automatic. Why to make manual control if it still stays auto - I'm so pissed at amd.

Chaos · Mar 28, 2009, 02:48 PM

it dont sound good you may want to see if the card can be returned

dataxa · Mar 28, 2009, 07:23 PM

I don't know if i have superpowers but if i scroll browsers window up and down quickly, i can hear vents speed increasing for a moment. Same happens if i move window around the screen :s

Chaos · Mar 28, 2009, 07:27 PM

can you try Riva Tuner to see if you can enable low level fan control

dataxa · Mar 29, 2009, 12:04 AM

can you be more specific? What to download?

Chaos · Mar 29, 2009, 12:26 AM

Riva Tuner

Expert Tool

dataxa · Mar 29, 2009, 01:11 PM

Downloaded both programs, but i cant find low level fan control. Expert tool allowed me to change fan speed but that's all.

blibbax · Mar 29, 2009, 06:23 PM

Go to rivatuner>main tab>driver settings>customise>sstem settings>fan.

What results did expert tool yield in terms of temperature, and what program are you suing to montor temps?

Also, could we get a photo of the inside of your case so we can get some idea of airflow.

3FUN · Mar 29, 2009, 07:55 PM

The best thing would be to return the card and get a new one if posible.

TheAscension · Apr 1, 2009, 08:02 PM

You know, it may not be AMD's fault. This could very well be an issue with how the board was put together (board mfg's fault). Who makes the card?

Have you tried pulling off the heatsink and checking to make sure the thermal grease has been applied? Could be something as simple as that.

I've owned AMD all my life and never had a problem, so let's not make our angry statements too general.

Judas · Apr 1, 2009, 09:20 PM

trade you my nvidia GTX280 which i've had to return and get replaced due to hitting the high 90*C range and failing.

It's a faulty card...... get it replaced.... or make sure you are feeding it enough power.

My HD4850 and HD4870's idle average is 50ish *C.... in a relatively cool ambient enviroment, game loaded i've yet to see my 4870 break 87*C

blibbax · Apr 1, 2009, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Judas

trade you my nvidia GTX280 which i've had to return and get replaced due to hitting the high 90*C range and failing.

It's a faulty card...... get it replaced.... or make sure you are feeding it enough power.

My HD4850 and HD4870's idle average is 50ish *C.... in a relatively cool ambient enviroment, game loaded i've yet to see my 4870 break 87*C

That's still pretty hot on those ATI cards. If you need to loose a GTX280, I'm sure I can help though.

And given that you have a 4850, 4870 and GTX280 available I've got to hand it to you for shpowing off the x16** in your sig. Very retro!

Judas · Apr 1, 2009, 11:46 PM

those are shelf products....

the machine i am using is what is in my sig....

the display models are running those cards... as well as others...

i just keep trying nvidia.. and i'm just not impressed.... personally i find the performance value doesn't cover the cost nor the lack of capability/stability that i find with the ati cards i've been using since my kyro 2.

ShugNinx · Apr 2, 2009, 12:21 PM

I've got two HD4850s in crossfire in the same rig, one with an aftermarket cooler.

The stock HD4850 hits 87 or so at full load and the HIS IceQ4 cooler only hits about 58-60 at full load just above it.

Your idle temperatures sound crazy you should definitely get the card returned.

procupine14 · Apr 2, 2009, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShugNinx

I've got two HD4850s in crossfire in the same rig, one with an aftermarket cooler.

The stock HD4850 hits 87 or so at full load and the HIS IceQ4 cooler only hits about 58-60 at full load just above it.

Your idle temperatures sound crazy you should definitely get the card returned.

same temps as me on the same card

and mine is pushed to the max OC i can muster out of it. I Love that IceQ

Sparrownightmare · Jun 29, 2009, 04:24 PM

Hi. What brand is your ATI card? I have a Sapphire HD4850 1GB card which I need to get a new fan for. The stock one just isn't cutting it at all. ALso, do you have the URL for that HIS IceQ4 you are using? I am thinking of a Zalman VF1000, but I am open to any suggestions at this point. Thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShugNinx

I've got two HD4850s in crossfire in the same rig, one with an aftermarket cooler.

The stock HD4850 hits 87 or so at full load and the HIS IceQ4 cooler only hits about 58-60 at full load just above it.

Your idle temperatures sound crazy you should definitely get the card returned.

mkk · Jun 29, 2009, 10:18 PM

That Zalman VF1000 is very noisy at full speed and it would have to run at full speed with a HD4850. I'd go for the Arctic Cooling Twin Turbo or their large fanless Accelero S1 with a hand picked additional fan tied to it. They are excellent performers.

They also have a brand new Accelero L2 for a very inexpensive option, but as I haven't read much about it yet I can't recommend it. It's also unlikely to cool well enough for overclocking much.

Sparrownightmare · Jun 29, 2009, 10:32 PM

I took a look. I am not sure that the Twin Turbo will clear the heatsink on the card's power regulator. It only has a clearance of like 14.5mm to 1.7mm in that area. I suppose I could take off the stock sink from the regulator and replace it with something a bit flatter...

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkk

That Zalman VF1000 is very noisy at full speed and it would have to run at full speed with a HD4850. I'd go for the Arctic Cooling Twin Turbo or their large fanless Accelero S1 with a hand picked additional fan tied to it. They are excellent performers.

They also have a brand new Accelero L2 for a very inexpensive option, but as I haven't read much about it yet I can't recommend it. It's also unlikely to cool well enough for overclocking much.

mkk · Jun 30, 2009, 12:42 AM

Some small VRM sinks are included in the Twin Turbo kit. On the other hand my 4850 has no VRM heatsink at all and does fine, but then again various cards might use slightly different components. If nothing else the Twin Turbo would provide excellent airflow in that area.

Mar 27, 2009, 06:08 PM	#1
dataxa DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	HD4850 temperature My screen resolution is 1680x1050 and catalys control center shows me temperature 90 degrees in idle state, where fan is working 45% - 55%. When i play game, then temp goes to 115+ degrees with 100% fan cooling. COD4,5 played fine, but lately i tried merchants of brooklyn and wheelman and now after 5 - 15 minutis of play, pc shuts down immideatly! I am quite dissapointed in AMD again!! They can make cheap and good cards but behind the scenes, you still get burnt in one way or another. Never had problem with nvidia, no idea why i bought amd. Anyway, can anyone help me on this matter? I have win xp and latest ati drivers.

Mar 27, 2009, 06:41 PM	#2
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,269 Rep Power: 165 System Specs	Re: HD4850 temperature 1st does your case have good airflow as the 4850 runs hot. If not try removing the side panel of your case and see if it still happens. Set the fan speed to manual and try 75% and see what happens to your temps. 115+ is too high. The only single 4850 I had used the stock cooler and it idled around 70-75c with the fan on auto but was better with the fan speed fixed at 70-75%

Mar 28, 2009, 02:16 PM	Thread Starter #3
dataxa DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	Re: HD4850 temperature 85 degrees without side panel and vent at 40%. If i click enable manual fan control and put slider to 100% then why does not fan go to 100% but stay on 40% as its still on automatic. Why to make manual control if it still stays auto - I'm so pissed at amd.

Mar 28, 2009, 02:48 PM	#4
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,269 Rep Power: 165 System Specs	Re: HD4850 temperature it dont sound good you may want to see if the card can be returned

Mar 28, 2009, 07:23 PM	Thread Starter #5
dataxa DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	Re: HD4850 temperature I don't know if i have superpowers but if i scroll browsers window up and down quickly, i can hear vents speed increasing for a moment. Same happens if i move window around the screen :s

Mar 28, 2009, 07:27 PM	#6
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,269 Rep Power: 165 System Specs	Re: HD4850 temperature can you try Riva Tuner to see if you can enable low level fan control

Mar 29, 2009, 12:04 AM	Thread Starter #7
dataxa DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	Re: HD4850 temperature can you be more specific? What to download?

Mar 29, 2009, 12:26 AM	#8
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,269 Rep Power: 165 System Specs	Re: HD4850 temperature Riva Tuner Expert Tool Last edited by Chaos; Mar 29, 2009 at 05:23 AM.

Mar 29, 2009, 01:11 PM	Thread Starter #9
dataxa DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	Re: HD4850 temperature Downloaded both programs, but i cant find low level fan control. Expert tool allowed me to change fan speed but that's all.

Mar 29, 2009, 06:23 PM	#10
blibbax What does this do? Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 3,671 Rep Power: 169 System Specs	Re: HD4850 temperature Go to rivatuner>main tab>driver settings>customise>sstem settings>fan. What results did expert tool yield in terms of temperature, and what program are you suing to montor temps? Also, could we get a photo of the inside of your case so we can get some idea of airflow. __________________ Donate the spare computing power of your PC to help to cure Alzheimer's, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease and cancer: Fold for HH!

Mar 29, 2009, 07:55 PM	#11
3FUN HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Macedonia Posts: 80 Rep Power: 31 System Specs	Re: HD4850 temperature The best thing would be to return the card and get a new one if posible.

Apr 1, 2009, 08:02 PM	#12
TheAscension DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Milwaukie, OR Posts: 94 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: HD4850 temperature You know, it may not be AMD's fault. This could very well be an issue with how the board was put together (board mfg's fault). Who makes the card? Have you tried pulling off the heatsink and checking to make sure the thermal grease has been applied? Could be something as simple as that. I've owned AMD all my life and never had a problem, so let's not make our angry statements too general.

Apr 2, 2009, 12:21 PM	#16
ShugNinx DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	Re: HD4850 temperature I've got two HD4850s in crossfire in the same rig, one with an aftermarket cooler. The stock HD4850 hits 87 or so at full load and the HIS IceQ4 cooler only hits about 58-60 at full load just above it. Your idle temperatures sound crazy you should definitely get the card returned.

Jun 29, 2009, 10:18 PM	#19
mkk Cthulhu/Dagon 2012 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gefle, Sweden Posts: 4,374 Rep Power: 120 System Specs	Re: HD4850 temperature That Zalman VF1000 is very noisy at full speed and it would have to run at full speed with a HD4850. I'd go for the Arctic Cooling Twin Turbo or their large fanless Accelero S1 with a hand picked additional fan tied to it. They are excellent performers. They also have a brand new Accelero L2 for a very inexpensive option, but as I haven't read much about it yet I can't recommend it. It's also unlikely to cool well enough for overclocking much.

Jun 30, 2009, 12:42 AM	#21
mkk Cthulhu/Dagon 2012 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gefle, Sweden Posts: 4,374 Rep Power: 120 System Specs	Re: HD4850 temperature Some small VRM sinks are included in the Twin Turbo kit. On the other hand my 4850 has no VRM heatsink at all and does fine, but then again various cards might use slightly different components. If nothing else the Twin Turbo would provide excellent airflow in that area.