ATI Radeon 9600 .. Help Required ..

myztik19 · Oct 18, 2003, 07:27 PM

hi

i intend buying a ATI Radeon 9600 very soon ... my budget is $115-$120 only ..

so the 9600 pro and 9600 xt versions are out of question ...

since many companies make the card which one should i buy ...

ive heard abt sapphire 9600 128 ddr ... howz this one ??

where can i but the card online .. a lot of sites posted at pricewatch.com and im confused ... can anyone suggest a nice online site which is reliable @ secure ...

Zardon · Oct 18, 2003, 09:32 PM

sapphire are generally good cards, ive owned a few in the past and never had any problems. you are in India (going by your title right?)

**MIG-31** · Oct 18, 2003, 09:48 PM

a little difficult for me to answer.i have a sapphire 9600pro and must say it has been very reliable.being in the uk if that is going by us$ thats around £65.

the closet i come up with is £76.38p excluding post&packaging from www.overclockers.co.uk. for a se version.

but from were you are i can't say.

myztik19 · Oct 19, 2003, 05:47 AM

hi
im not buying the card from india .. my frd stays in the us and im buying it from there .. i need info abt us online stores and thingz like that ...

MaTT01 · Oct 20, 2003, 06:15 AM

Dealt with www.newegg.com for awhile now and they have to be the best online vendor I've dealt with. Shipping is really fast and the prices are generally close to being the lowest. RMA policy is excellent as well.

spark rain fire · Oct 20, 2003, 06:20 AM

i'd have to agree with matt01. www.newegg.com is by far the best online store for pc hardware. i've been dealing with them for quite some time, and never had a problem, great site layout, great rma policy, great selection, and every single item has its own msg board "customer review". i highly reccomend dealing with them.

MaTT01 · Oct 20, 2003, 06:22 AM

Oh!! I almost forgot the best part. With each order they offer a free gift depending on what you purchase

invar · Oct 20, 2003, 02:07 PM

arGHH!!! i can't believe i never noticed the free gifts!!! i've placed so many orders from them too, DOH!!

Judas · Oct 20, 2003, 02:11 PM

.... I'm running a BUILT BY ATI 9600 128mb non pro..... i must say, that they are excellent.... rather quite a difference between 9200 and 9600 for sure...and even huger between even earlier model cards... (abviously, but in windows alone i mean).... 3D exceptional... i also gained twice as much juicy fps in my 3D render for signatures or wallpaper at 1920x1440.... now it's not a eye strainer)

**MIG-31** · Oct 20, 2003, 02:18 PM

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Originally posted by myztik19
hi
im not buying the card from india .. my frd stays in the us and im buying it from there .. i need info abt us online stores and thingz like that ...

ok.there will be a better chance of buying one in the us well within your budget.

maybe if you said in the first place would of helped more.

Cavicchi · Oct 27, 2003, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Judas
.... I'm running a BUILT BY ATI 9600 128mb non pro..... i must say, that they are excellent.... rather quite a difference between 9200 and 9600 for sure...and even huger between even earlier model cards... (abviously, but in windows alone i mean).... 3D exceptional... i also gained twice as much juicy fps in my 3D render for signatures or wallpaper at 1920x1440.... now it's not a eye strainer)

Does the Built By ATI 9600 non-pro support 32-bit color?

**MIG-31** · Oct 27, 2003, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cavicchi
Does the Built By ATI 9600 non-pro support 32-bit color?

there is no difference between non pro to pro 9600's but for one exeption of the clock speeds.

pro:400/300(ddr)

npro:324/200(ddr)

all cards today will support 32bit colours if not then it's more likely to be driver fault.

Cavicchi · Oct 27, 2003, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnybravo
there is no difference between non pro to pro 9600's but for one exeption of the clock speeds.

pro:400/300(ddr)

npro:324/200(ddr)

all cards today will support 32bit colours if not then it's more likely to be driver fault.

I notice you have the Sapphire 9600 Pro. Is that fanless?

How do you like that card? Do you use drivers from ATI?

I know, I ask too many questions.

**MIG-31** · Oct 27, 2003, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cavicchi
I notice you have the Sapphire 9600 Pro. Is that fanless?

How do you like that card? Do you use drivers from ATI?

I know, I ask too many questions.

don't worry about the questions we all have them.

nope mine is not fanless but is not noticeable due to 2 80mm case fans and one modified cpu fan which is 80mm as well but are more efficient.but still fairly quite considering.

the fanless 9600 pro is the "ultimate" version from sapphire.

but i would choose to pay a few pound extra for a pro over np.

as for the 9600pro it to me anyway is an excellent card for the mid range gpu's.i get around 13k in 3dm2k1 and this card is a mean overclocker to.

stock speeds are 400/300(ddr) but i currently run mine at 450/330(ddr).

ati cards from 9500 upward are dx9 supported.

but personally if it were not for cash i would like at least the 9800pro but prefer 9800xt but that is out of the window.

Cavicchi · Oct 27, 2003, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnybravo
don't worry about the questions we all have them.

nope mine is not fanless but is not noticeable due to 2 80mm case fans and one modified cpu fan which is 80mm as well but are more efficient.but still fairly quite considering.

the fanless 9600 pro is the "ultimate" version from sapphire.

but i would choose to pay a few pound extra for a pro over np.

as for the 9600pro it to me anyway is an excellent card for the mid range gpu's.i get around 13k in 3dm2k1 and this card is a mean overclocker to.

stock speeds are 400/300(ddr) but i currently run mine at 450/330(ddr).

ati cards from 9500 upward are dx9 supported.

but personally if it were not for cash i would like at least the 9800pro but prefer 9800xt but that is out of the window.

Do you get drivers from the ATI website for your Sapphire?

Chaos · Oct 27, 2003, 08:00 PM

you can get drivers from Sapphire's website or ATI's. I have a Sapphire 9500 np and it is a great card. I might steer away from the 9600np and see if you can find a 9500np

**MIG-31** · Oct 27, 2003, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cavicchi
Do you get drivers from the ATI website for your Sapphire?

oops forgot to answer that one.

ati, the drivers from sapphire will just be most likely be a link to ati drivers server.

shatteredsky · Oct 27, 2003, 10:29 PM

If you're buying a sapphire 9600 pro from Newegg make sure you don't buy the 'lite' version. It is equipped with inferior RAM, the oem version of the full retail is available for near the same price (actually it's cheaper right now). Still I cannot recommend the 9600 pro fully, as I am one of the unlucky consumers for whom the card is EXTREMELY unstable.

Cavicchi · Oct 27, 2003, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnybravo
oops forgot to answer that one.

ati, the drivers from sapphire will just be most likely be a link to ati drivers server.

And you get the control panel upgrades from ATI, too?

invar · Oct 28, 2003, 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by shatteredsky
If you're buying a sapphire 9600 pro from Newegg make sure you don't buy the 'lite' version. It is equipped with inferior RAM, the oem version of the full retail is available for near the same price (actually it's cheaper right now). Still I cannot recommend the 9600 pro fully, as I am one of the unlucky consumers for whom the card is EXTREMELY unstable.

did you try disabling FastWrite in the SmartGART driver section?

shatteredsky · Oct 28, 2003, 06:26 AM

I've tried toggling Fastwrite in bios and smartgart, turning AGP Write off in smartgart, decreasing hardware acceleration slider, disabling write combine, omega drivers, catalyst drivers, disabling 8x agp, increasing voltage to 1.7v (max for my mobo... any way to kick it higher? 1.8 seems to be where other people are really having luck)... um... changing aperture size...

I hate this card. Well that's not true. It works awesome when it IS working. I hate the gods conspiring against me to wreck my beautiful system!

And I dun think it's a power supply problem. I just upgraded to an Antec True430 and the rails are almost dead on (except my 12v is like ~.4 off) It's sickening.

**MIG-31** · Oct 28, 2003, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cavicchi
And you get the control panel upgrades from ATI, too?

the 3.8's a 25mb file it includes the cp.

any more questions?

Cavicchi · Oct 28, 2003, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnybravo
the 3.8's a 25mb file it includes the cp.

any more questions?

Nope. Thanks!

**MIG-31** · Oct 28, 2003, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cavicchi
Nope. Thanks!

thank god for that,

Oct 18, 2003, 07:27 PM	#1
myztik19 Tech Savvy Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: India Posts: 52 Rep Power: 0	ATI Radeon 9600 .. Help Required .. hi i intend buying a ATI Radeon 9600 very soon ... my budget is $115-$120 only .. so the 9600 pro and 9600 xt versions are out of question ... since many companies make the card which one should i buy ... ive heard abt sapphire 9600 128 ddr ... howz this one ?? where can i but the card online .. a lot of sites posted at pricewatch.com and im confused ... can anyone suggest a nice online site which is reliable @ secure ...

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MIG-31 HardwareHeaven News Mod Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nottingham,UK Posts: 56,791 Rep Power: 471 System Specs	a little difficult for me to answer.i have a sapphire 9600pro and must say it has been very reliable.being in the uk if that is going by us$ thats around £65. the closet i come up with is £76.38p excluding post&packaging from www.overclockers.co.uk. for a se version. but from were you are i can't say. __________________ Please Post Your News Submissions Here

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Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,269 Rep Power: 167 System Specs	you can get drivers from Sapphire's website or ATI's. I have a Sapphire 9500 np and it is a great card. I might steer away from the 9600np and see if you can find a 9500np __________________

Oct 18, 2003, 09:32 PM	#2
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	sapphire are generally good cards, ive owned a few in the past and never had any problems. you are in India (going by your title right?)

Oct 19, 2003, 05:47 AM	Thread Starter #4
myztik19 Tech Savvy Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: India Posts: 52 Rep Power: 0	hi im not buying the card from india .. my frd stays in the us and im buying it from there .. i need info abt us online stores and thingz like that ...

Oct 20, 2003, 06:15 AM	#5
MaTT01 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Louisville, Ky Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	Dealt with www.newegg.com for awhile now and they have to be the best online vendor I've dealt with. Shipping is really fast and the prices are generally close to being the lowest. RMA policy is excellent as well.

Oct 20, 2003, 06:22 AM	#7
MaTT01 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Louisville, Ky Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	Oh!! I almost forgot the best part. With each order they offer a free gift depending on what you purchase

Oct 20, 2003, 02:07 PM	#8
invar DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	arGHH!!! i can't believe i never noticed the free gifts!!! i've placed so many orders from them too, DOH!!

Oct 27, 2003, 10:29 PM	#18
shatteredsky DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	If you're buying a sapphire 9600 pro from Newegg make sure you don't buy the 'lite' version. It is equipped with inferior RAM, the oem version of the full retail is available for near the same price (actually it's cheaper right now). Still I cannot recommend the 9600 pro fully, as I am one of the unlucky consumers for whom the card is EXTREMELY unstable.

Oct 28, 2003, 06:26 AM	#21
shatteredsky DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	I've tried toggling Fastwrite in bios and smartgart, turning AGP Write off in smartgart, decreasing hardware acceleration slider, disabling write combine, omega drivers, catalyst drivers, disabling 8x agp, increasing voltage to 1.7v (max for my mobo... any way to kick it higher? 1.8 seems to be where other people are really having luck)... um... changing aperture size... I hate this card. Well that's not true. It works awesome when it IS working. I hate the gods conspiring against me to wreck my beautiful system! And I dun think it's a power supply problem. I just upgraded to an Antec True430 and the rails are almost dead on (except my 12v is like ~.4 off) It's sickening.