my 9800pro sucks!

~~realsandman~~ · Oct 19, 2003, 07:14 PM

What is with my rig!!
My scores in 3dmark03patched = 6243
3dmark2001sepatched = 17653
pcmark2002 = cpu6166 mem6237 hd1232

Now these seem real slow, my rig is- p4 2.4b 533fsb oc=2.55
512ddr2700, 120maxtorhd, 9800pro 128
Now im using 3.8 ati cat, directx9b and all uptodate and certified drivers.

I have o/c 9800pro slightly and it seemed stable, no artifacts and no slowdown,
my system temp is 43'c max, at full load and 32'c idle.

I have fastwrite off, and all settings are to default max performance.
All background programs are off during benchmark.
System restore off.Hibernate off.
Desktop theme's off.

What more can i do? how can i improve on my lame scores.
Please help!!!

BWX · Oct 19, 2003, 07:40 PM

Yeah 6243 is such a lame 3dmark 03 score, and 17,6xx is so bad for 01--

Whatever man.

* Try turning your drivers to app preference and all the lowest sliders for D3D.

Those scores aren't bad at all- what were you expecting?

~~realsandman~~ · Oct 19, 2003, 08:40 PM

There not? well im kinda new to this thing, had this rig built for me and did not know what to exspect, i aint happy with my cpu, should of got the 3.0c but was in a rush and did not check around first.I will be upgrading to amd's new 64fx in 6 weeks along with a new mobo that surports it, i think that sis one is ok? also i will be trying that ddr500, i heard its very good.I will stick with my 9800pro128 and leave the 9800xt for a bit, see what its like first.
Thanks for the post.

Asmoday · Oct 19, 2003, 08:53 PM

Those scores aren't that bad...

dipstick · Oct 19, 2003, 09:01 PM

Those are very good. Be happy

eddul · Oct 19, 2003, 10:13 PM

lol, then its perhaps time for some overclocking

Hearst · Oct 20, 2003, 12:50 AM

Yeah those scores are fine.

~~realsandman~~ · Oct 20, 2003, 01:31 AM

What sort of over clocking can i get out of my card?
I have had it 400/350, with no probs but dont want to push it beyond what i know it can do, any sugestions on speeds.
Also how do i find out the memory make? i.e is it samsung, as i have heard depending on the 9800pro's memory make depends on o/c stability.
One more thing, what is the best o/c tool? im using powerstrip at the moment.
Thanks alot,
sam

BWX · Oct 20, 2003, 02:07 AM

Radclocker is pretty cool-

I wouldn't OC the ram until you have ramsinks on it- just from my own experience, it isn't worth the risk and the price of good ram heatsinks is so small compared to what you invested in that card.

Also make sure you have very good case ventilation before you OC- cut a hole right in the side of your case next to the Video card and pop in a nice big 80mm fan.. It works great.

Here's what I did- 9700pro stays very cold.

Hearst · Oct 20, 2003, 02:25 AM

I just ordered some ramsinks from 1coolpc. I'm going to put those on this week and then overclock a little myself. I have a 80mm fan blowing right on my vid card from the side panel window. Also have 3 80mm fans blowing cool air in and two 80mm's exhausting air. My case temps never go above 24C which is good.

BWX · Oct 20, 2003, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hearst
. My case temps never go above 24C which is good.

Nice, isn't it?- never ever having to worry about heat....
My case temp is always around 23 to 24 too- CPU is always 37 to 42.5 at the hottest. (and that's a Palamino 1800+ @ 1.8volts doing 1690mhz -deafault 1533) /w no special HSF.

Ev!L-aLphA · Oct 20, 2003, 03:47 AM

dude dont whine i have a radeon 9800 128 mgs 1.6 ghz 1gb of ram and my score in 3dmark03 is 1974

thats bad

Malus · Oct 20, 2003, 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ev!L-aLphA
dude dont whine i have a radeon 9800 128 mgs 1.6 ghz 1gb of ram and my score in 3dmark03 is 1974

thats bad

Even my 9800SE scores better than that.

Anyway, that 3dmark2k3 score is almost double mine, you should be happy.

BWX · Oct 20, 2003, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ev!L-aLphA
i have a radeon 9800 128 mgs 1.6 ghz 1gb of ram and my score in 3dmark03 is 1974

Yeah, that test doesn't really depend on CPU that much at all- If you want I think you could get that score up around 4500 or more- Are you sure you are testing w v-sync off and all sliders in D3D set to far left? Also Application preference for AA and AF? Do all this and run test again- You will definitely score higher. If not you don't have a 9800 or you have a bad driver install or very bad config somewhere.

Is this a 9800pro or just a 9800 non-pro?

*edit- I dee it's a pro in your sig now-

dude- you should see at least 5200 or so.

~~realsandman~~ · Oct 20, 2003, 02:19 PM

Ok, now im feeling better about my scores!

~~realsandman~~ · Oct 20, 2003, 02:23 PM

This is my second run on aquamark.Im slightly o/c gpu.

http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_vie...nID=1600335711

I have been told these are average for my rig.

BWX · Oct 20, 2003, 10:44 PM

I've seen higher w/ a 9800pro- but those are good scores, nothing to worry about.. You can always tweak more, oc more, buy faster stuff, but I don't think anything is "wrong" with the scores you have for your settup. That 3dmark 03 seems above average.

Warpy · Oct 20, 2003, 10:55 PM

Is your card a 9800 SE flashed to a 9800 PRO?

I know the 9800 PRO i bought in a retail box was a fake. Had to take the thing back. Sounds like you have a dud. Only way to be sure is check the PN number, RAM and Core speeds (at default) as well as the pipelines (use Aida32):

Check this link out

O.T O yeah BWX232 you say you like red video cards... hmm well i like blue ones!

BWX · Oct 20, 2003, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Funky Monkey

O.T O yeah BWX232 you say you like red video cards... hmm well i like blue ones!

LOL, yeah, but it's a red card at heart!

~~realsandman~~ · Oct 21, 2003, 01:38 PM

No i aint got a fake! ithink i would know mate, i have aida32 and my card has 8 pipelines, ramdac clock=400mhz gpu clock=378mhz gpu name R350 vertex shaders=4 pixel shaders=1.

[MODERATOR EDIT MODE ON]Please refrain from using profanity on these boards - it will not be tolerated.

sam

krazy1 · Oct 21, 2003, 01:43 PM

Quote:

sam

WOW Was that really called for??

~~realsandman~~ · Oct 21, 2003, 03:02 PM

Yeah it was.

blade5545 · Oct 21, 2003, 04:06 PM

Before you start insulting people in this forum what dont you read up first, all these guys are doing is trying to answer your questions and be helpful and instead of thanking them for their suggestions you insult them, for your information Funky Monkey has a point a 9800se when flashed with a bios for 9800pro will show up with the same exact specs as the original 9800pro, so NO you would not be able to tell the diffrence beacause it will show up the same in Aida32

With that attitue maybe you should go to Rage3d, virtually everbody came from overthere beacause they got sick of that kind of immature behavior.

krazy1 · Oct 21, 2003, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by realsandman
Yeah it was.

With an attitude like that don't expect to get much help around here.

Not everyone in the world is always going to give you the perfect answer that you are going to like to hear. Learn to take it as a suggestion and if it was not the answer you wanted either KINDLY say so or say nothing.....

If you have nothing nice to say, don't say it.... unless you are in the Flame Zone.....

BWX · Oct 21, 2003, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by realsandman

So as you can see it aint a fake you dumbass fucktard.
Keep your unhelpfull info to your self.

sam

reported-

this is rediculous lately.

mike2h · Oct 21, 2003, 05:37 PM

if you do not like somebody or something they said & feel the need to rip them, GO TO THE FLAMEZONE.

though in this case funky monkey asked a reasonable question & should get an apology from you.

**MIG-31** · Oct 21, 2003, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by realsandman
Yeah it was.

oh dear m8.you are a newbie who has just got to big for your boots!!!!!.

you definitely stirring up a problem.

you have certainly got a lot to learn about dh and that is the right way to get banned from here.

this is a very placid place here nobody will like that tone and as what mike2h said you could be ignored for it.

and i agree that funkeymonkey's post were intentionally helpful and from the posts i have seen him in he does appear to know quite a bit and could very well be a helpful member.

Shrink · Oct 21, 2003, 05:53 PM

Considering the manner in which this thread has deteriorated, I am closing it.

realsandman - please govern yourself accordingly and don't start flame wars.

kinetic · Oct 21, 2003, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shrink
Considering the manner in which this thread has deteriorated, I am closing it.

realsandman - please govern yourself accordingly and don't start flame wars.

Realsandman is now banned due to further unacceptable behaviour in pm despite a warning. We at DriverHeaven pride ourselves in the friendly way that the site is run. Everyone is treated equally and with respect and we expect the same treatment in return.

Thank you.

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Oct 19, 2003, 07:14 PM	#1
~~realsandman~~ Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: birmingham uk Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	my 9800pro sucks! What is with my rig!! My scores in 3dmark03patched = 6243 3dmark2001sepatched = 17653 pcmark2002 = cpu6166 mem6237 hd1232 Now these seem real slow, my rig is- p4 2.4b 533fsb oc=2.55 512ddr2700, 120maxtorhd, 9800pro 128 Now im using 3.8 ati cat, directx9b and all uptodate and certified drivers. I have o/c 9800pro slightly and it seemed stable, no artifacts and no slowdown, my system temp is 43'c max, at full load and 32'c idle. I have fastwrite off, and all settings are to default max performance. All background programs are off during benchmark. System restore off.Hibernate off. Desktop theme's off. What more can i do? how can i improve on my lame scores. Please help!!!

Oct 19, 2003, 07:40 PM	#2
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	Yeah 6243 is such a lame 3dmark 03 score, and 17,6xx is so bad for 01-- Whatever man. * Try turning your drivers to app preference and all the lowest sliders for D3D. Those scores aren't bad at all- what were you expecting? __________________ Last edited by BWX; Oct 20, 2003 at 12:55 AM.

Oct 19, 2003, 08:53 PM	#4
Asmoday Demonic Join Date: May 2002 Location: In the cold, dark north... Posts: 5,198 Rep Power: 91 System Specs	Those scores aren't that bad... __________________ How You can help Hardwareheaven by using Digg

Oct 20, 2003, 02:07 AM	#9
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	Radclocker is pretty cool- I wouldn't OC the ram until you have ramsinks on it- just from my own experience, it isn't worth the risk and the price of good ram heatsinks is so small compared to what you invested in that card. Also make sure you have very good case ventilation before you OC- cut a hole right in the side of your case next to the Video card and pop in a nice big 80mm fan.. It works great. Here's what I did- 9700pro stays very cold. __________________

Oct 20, 2003, 02:25 AM	#10
Hearst DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	I just ordered some ramsinks from 1coolpc. I'm going to put those on this week and then overclock a little myself. I have a 80mm fan blowing right on my vid card from the side panel window. Also have 3 80mm fans blowing cool air in and two 80mm's exhausting air. My case temps never go above 24C which is good. __________________ Abit NF7\ 2500+ @ 3200+ 400fsb\ ATI 9700 pro\1gb Buffalo tech PC3200 with Winbond chips\ Antec SX835ll\ Antec 550w\Hercules Fortissimo 3\Samsung 955DF\Vantec Aeroflow

Oct 19, 2003, 08:40 PM	Thread Starter #3
~~realsandman~~ Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: birmingham uk Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	There not? well im kinda new to this thing, had this rig built for me and did not know what to exspect, i aint happy with my cpu, should of got the 3.0c but was in a rush and did not check around first.I will be upgrading to amd's new 64fx in 6 weeks along with a new mobo that surports it, i think that sis one is ok? also i will be trying that ddr500, i heard its very good.I will stick with my 9800pro128 and leave the 9800xt for a bit, see what its like first. Thanks for the post.

Oct 19, 2003, 09:01 PM	#5
dipstick HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,609 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	Those are very good. Be happy

Oct 19, 2003, 10:13 PM	#6
eddul DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	lol, then its perhaps time for some overclocking

Oct 20, 2003, 12:50 AM	#7
Hearst DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	Yeah those scores are fine.

Oct 20, 2003, 01:31 AM	Thread Starter #8
~~realsandman~~ Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: birmingham uk Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	What sort of over clocking can i get out of my card? I have had it 400/350, with no probs but dont want to push it beyond what i know it can do, any sugestions on speeds. Also how do i find out the memory make? i.e is it samsung, as i have heard depending on the 9800pro's memory make depends on o/c stability. One more thing, what is the best o/c tool? im using powerstrip at the moment. Thanks alot, sam

Oct 20, 2003, 03:47 AM	#12
Ev!L-aLphA \| n f e c t e D Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,111 Rep Power: 0	dude dont whine i have a radeon 9800 128 mgs 1.6 ghz 1gb of ram and my score in 3dmark03 is 1974 thats bad __________________ R.I.P 8/8/04 4/21/08

Oct 20, 2003, 02:19 PM	Thread Starter #15
~~realsandman~~ Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: birmingham uk Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	Ok, now im feeling better about my scores!

Oct 20, 2003, 02:23 PM	Thread Starter #16
~~realsandman~~ Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: birmingham uk Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	This is my second run on aquamark.Im slightly o/c gpu. http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_vie...nID=1600335711 I have been told these are average for my rig.

Oct 20, 2003, 10:44 PM	#17
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	I've seen higher w/ a 9800pro- but those are good scores, nothing to worry about.. You can always tweak more, oc more, buy faster stuff, but I don't think anything is "wrong" with the scores you have for your settup. That 3dmark 03 seems above average. __________________

Oct 20, 2003, 10:55 PM	#18
Warpy DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 2,761 Rep Power: 0	Is your card a 9800 SE flashed to a 9800 PRO? I know the 9800 PRO i bought in a retail box was a fake. Had to take the thing back. Sounds like you have a dud. Only way to be sure is check the PN number, RAM and Core speeds (at default) as well as the pipelines (use Aida32): Check this link out O.T O yeah BWX232 you say you like red video cards... hmm well i like blue ones! __________________ The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help." Last edited by Warpy; Oct 20, 2003 at 11:01 PM.

Oct 21, 2003, 01:38 PM	Thread Starter #20
~~realsandman~~ Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: birmingham uk Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	No i aint got a fake! ithink i would know mate, i have aida32 and my card has 8 pipelines, ramdac clock=400mhz gpu clock=378mhz gpu name R350 vertex shaders=4 pixel shaders=1. [MODERATOR EDIT MODE ON]Please refrain from using profanity on these boards - it will not be tolerated. sam Last edited by Shrink; Oct 21, 2003 at 05:51 PM.

Oct 21, 2003, 03:02 PM	Thread Starter #22
~~realsandman~~ Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: birmingham uk Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	Yeah it was.

Oct 21, 2003, 04:06 PM	#23
blade5545 Shoots first ask's questions later Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Austin,TX Posts: 330 Rep Power: 0	Before you start insulting people in this forum what dont you read up first, all these guys are doing is trying to answer your questions and be helpful and instead of thanking them for their suggestions you insult them, for your information Funky Monkey has a point a 9800se when flashed with a bios for 9800pro will show up with the same exact specs as the original 9800pro, so NO you would not be able to tell the diffrence beacause it will show up the same in Aida32 With that attitue maybe you should go to Rage3d, virtually everbody came from overthere beacause they got sick of that kind of immature behavior. __________________ Dell Inspiron 700m 2 ghz Intel Mobile 2mb L2 cache 12.1 Ultrabrite 1.25 gig ram 80gig hdd 8x DVD-RW 4.5lbs 1.5" thick 5 hours battery DFI NF4 Ultra - D AMD Winchester 64 3200+ @4125+ 2.62ghz sold Swiftech H20-120-BB REV. 3 LIQUID COOLING KIT 2x512 OCZ EL DDR PC-3200 Dual Channel sold Platinum Rev 2 OCZ POWERSTREAM 520W sold ATI X700 PRO SEAGATE 160GIG SATA Windows XP PRO SP2 / PearPC - Apple OS X 10.2 Unknown "The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself."

Oct 21, 2003, 05:37 PM	#26
mike2h DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: norcal Posts: 6,483 Rep Power: 91 System Specs	realsandman if you do not like somebody or something they said & feel the need to rip them, GO TO THE FLAMEZONE. though in this case funky monkey asked a reasonable question & should get an apology from you. __________________

Oct 21, 2003, 05:53 PM	#28
Shrink Recovering Beta Tester Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bracebridge, Ontario Posts: 130 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Considering the manner in which this thread has deteriorated, I am closing it. realsandman - please govern yourself accordingly and don't start flame wars. __________________ Shrink "How come things that happen to stupid people keep happening to me?" Homer J. Simpson