Is this normal for a Brand new 9800XT?

S4Biturbo · Dec 6, 2003, 08:45 PM

I've had my new Asus 9800XT up and running in my new rig now for a week. Its runing along side an Asus P4C800 Deluxe and a P42.6C 800FSB with 512MB Corsair XMS Pro 4000.

I cant even overclock 5MHZ on the card without getting white particles all over the screen in 3DMark03. I dont get anything in 3Dmark2001SE but loads in the other.

The card now is artifacting in 3Dmark03 at standard settings! but nothing in any of the other benches. As far as games go I havent seen any problems apart from a few NFS underground issues which a lot of people have had?

Just wanted to know, should my card be artifacting in 3Dmark03 or is it just the benchmark itself.

I'm using the OMEGA drivers BTW.

Cheers.

~~craig588~~ · Dec 6, 2003, 08:47 PM

what test? The PS2.0 test is bugged and always artifacts on any of my radeons.

cypher_138 · Dec 7, 2003, 12:13 AM

Those cards require higher than normal Agp voltage. Try bumping it up a little.

S4Biturbo · Dec 7, 2003, 11:48 AM

What do the voltage increments go up in on your board mate? mines an Asus P4C800 Deluxe.

BWX · Dec 7, 2003, 12:13 PM

My 9700p artifacts (little black dots- mostly in exactly the same place which is weird) on 3dmark 03 test 2 & 3 with even the smallest ram OC with my 9700p. If I don't OC at all I see little black dots are still there, but not nearly as bad. Funny thing is I see these artifacts in no other game or demo ever. Even if I OC to the point of the thing freezing 377/350 I don't get the artifacts in other games. I think it's just the benchmarks fault.

S4Biturbo · Dec 7, 2003, 04:41 PM

I agree with that. Cause they should show up in most benchmarks if the card is unstable right?

ViRuS2k · Dec 8, 2003, 09:04 AM

BWX mate remember AGP ishue hehe we talked about

well those problems your getting is to do with fastwrites and even if you disable you will still get problems what it is is your motherboard is not fully compatible with the ati cards specs if it was you would be able to use fastwrites and get no artifacting.... S4 with my hercules 100% refrence designed 9800 XT i get no problems what so ever with NFS underground... the only problems i get and this is a game ishue is no AA unless i turn off Motion Blur and Trail Lights Blur and one other thing if your artifacting in nature or the halo type demo in 2003 then i would return the card infact persionaly i would return it anyway and get a 100% refrence designed 9800 XT every problem i have encountered with 9800 XT problems is with ASUS XT cards... just to prove a point. and most of the time its hardware ishues

BWX · Dec 8, 2003, 12:03 PM

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Originally posted by ViRuS2k
BWX mate remember AGP ishue hehe we talked about well those problems your getting is to do with fastwrites and even if you disable you will still get problems what it is is your motherboard is not fully compatible with the ati cards specs if it was you would be able to use fastwrites and get no artifacting.... S4 with my hercules 100% refrence designed 9800 XT i get no problems what so ever with NFS underground... the only problems i get and this is a game ishue is no AA unless i turn off Motion Blur and Trail Lights Blur and one other thing if your artifacting in nature or the halo type demo in 2003 then i would return the card infact persionaly i would return it anyway and get a 100% refrence designed 9800 XT every problem i have encountered with 9800 XT problems is with ASUS XT cards... just to prove a point. and most of the time its hardware ishues

Well it's kinda funny, I had a gigabyte mobo before, and it did the same thing. On top of that, it was a bran new made by ATI retail card when I bought it.
Yesterday I played Deus Ex IW all day with it OC'ed to 351/324 for about 6 hours with not one artifact. I played NFSu all last week at the same clock speed, no problems, no artifacts. Just in 3dmark 03 test 2 and 3 AND just with AA off. When AA is on the artifacts are gone. This card OC's to 370/340 and will loop benches all say. - I did take 2 cards back before I got this one. And I don't have fastwrites on either. So I don't know. I always thought it was a problem with 3Dmark03.

ViRuS2k · Dec 8, 2003, 03:37 PM

hmm now im puzzled lol either way ATI can be twitchy with some motherboards when Fastwrites is enabled but i dont get that problem at all or in 3dmarks 2003 hmmm

BWX · Dec 8, 2003, 03:42 PM

I guess if I was inside my 30 day store warranty and I hadn't modded my card, I would take it back and get another one to see if it did the same thing. Maybe that's what Audi Bi-Turbo should do. I guess I would if it was a bran new card.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Dec 8, 2003, 11:08 PM

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Originally posted by ViRuS2k
hmm now im puzzled lol either way ATI can be twitchy with some motherboards when Fastwrites is enabled but i dont get that problem at all or in 3dmarks 2003 hmmm

Yeam i know ...no problems here must be something wong/system specific

Dec 6, 2003, 08:45 PM	#1
S4Biturbo DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: UK Posts: 18 Rep Power: 0	Is this normal for a Brand new 9800XT? I've had my new Asus 9800XT up and running in my new rig now for a week. Its runing along side an Asus P4C800 Deluxe and a P42.6C 800FSB with 512MB Corsair XMS Pro 4000. I cant even overclock 5MHZ on the card without getting white particles all over the screen in 3DMark03. I dont get anything in 3Dmark2001SE but loads in the other. The card now is artifacting in 3Dmark03 at standard settings! but nothing in any of the other benches. As far as games go I havent seen any problems apart from a few NFS underground issues which a lot of people have had? Just wanted to know, should my card be artifacting in 3Dmark03 or is it just the benchmark itself. I'm using the OMEGA drivers BTW. Cheers. __________________ Asus P4C800 Deluxe P4-2.6C800FSB - (Coolermaster Aero4) 512MB CorsairXMS PRO 4000 Powercolor Radeon 9800XT - Cat 3.7 Audigy2 120GB Maxtor Diamond Max Coolermaster Centurion 465W Enermax PSU

Dec 7, 2003, 12:13 AM	#3
cypher_138 Watching 1984 unfold Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Locked in a cage in some warehouse called NJ Posts: 235 Rep Power: 0	Those cards require higher than normal Agp voltage. Try bumping it up a little. __________________ This is my "sig". There are many like them but this one is mine.

Dec 7, 2003, 11:48 AM	Thread Starter #4
S4Biturbo DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: UK Posts: 18 Rep Power: 0	What do the voltage increments go up in on your board mate? mines an Asus P4C800 Deluxe. __________________ Asus P4C800 Deluxe P4-2.6C800FSB - (Coolermaster Aero4) 512MB CorsairXMS PRO 4000 Powercolor Radeon 9800XT - Cat 3.7 Audigy2 120GB Maxtor Diamond Max Coolermaster Centurion 465W Enermax PSU

Dec 7, 2003, 12:13 PM	#5
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	My 9700p artifacts (little black dots- mostly in exactly the same place which is weird) on 3dmark 03 test 2 & 3 with even the smallest ram OC with my 9700p. If I don't OC at all I see little black dots are still there, but not nearly as bad. Funny thing is I see these artifacts in no other game or demo ever. Even if I OC to the point of the thing freezing 377/350 I don't get the artifacts in other games. I think it's just the benchmarks fault. __________________

Dec 7, 2003, 04:41 PM	Thread Starter #6
S4Biturbo DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: UK Posts: 18 Rep Power: 0	I agree with that. Cause they should show up in most benchmarks if the card is unstable right? __________________ Asus P4C800 Deluxe P4-2.6C800FSB - (Coolermaster Aero4) 512MB CorsairXMS PRO 4000 Powercolor Radeon 9800XT - Cat 3.7 Audigy2 120GB Maxtor Diamond Max Coolermaster Centurion 465W Enermax PSU

Dec 6, 2003, 08:47 PM	#2
~~craig588~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In clothing Posts: 3,510 Rep Power: 0	what test? The PS2.0 test is bugged and always artifacts on any of my radeons.

Dec 8, 2003, 09:04 AM	#7
ViRuS2k HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 8,334 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	BWX mate remember AGP ishue hehe we talked about well those problems your getting is to do with fastwrites and even if you disable you will still get problems what it is is your motherboard is not fully compatible with the ati cards specs if it was you would be able to use fastwrites and get no artifacting.... S4 with my hercules 100% refrence designed 9800 XT i get no problems what so ever with NFS underground... the only problems i get and this is a game ishue is no AA unless i turn off Motion Blur and Trail Lights Blur and one other thing if your artifacting in nature or the halo type demo in 2003 then i would return the card infact persionaly i would return it anyway and get a 100% refrence designed 9800 XT every problem i have encountered with 9800 XT problems is with ASUS XT cards... just to prove a point. and most of the time its hardware ishues

Dec 8, 2003, 03:37 PM	#9
ViRuS2k HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 8,334 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	hmm now im puzzled lol either way ATI can be twitchy with some motherboards when Fastwrites is enabled but i dont get that problem at all or in 3dmarks 2003 hmmm

Dec 8, 2003, 03:42 PM	#10
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	I guess if I was inside my 30 day store warranty and I hadn't modded my card, I would take it back and get another one to see if it did the same thing. Maybe that's what Audi Bi-Turbo should do. I guess I would if it was a bran new card. __________________