ATI 9800 SE or 9600 PRO>?

Warpy · Dec 26, 2003, 09:02 AM

Hey ppl,

Which is the best ATI 9600 PRO 128MB or a ATI 9800 SE 128MB?

Ta,
Funky Monkey

Markius · Dec 26, 2003, 12:07 PM

i PMed this for your bro to look at...... http://www.ixbt-labs.com/articles2/over2003/index.html
take a look and have a chat with him...

Markius · Dec 26, 2003, 12:08 PM

ahh you have 666 posts

Riotz · Dec 26, 2003, 01:52 PM

Well a pro is better than a SE , but 9800 is a l8r model , so go with the 9800 imo

Chaos · Dec 26, 2003, 02:03 PM

I say go for the 9800 SE and hope that the softmod works with your card

Markius · Dec 26, 2003, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chaos
I say go for the 9800 SE and hope that the softmod works with your card

yep i suggested that to d4rks (funkys bro) its a saphire so it has a decent chance of a mod

The_Neon_Cowboy · Dec 26, 2003, 04:10 PM

acuaully a 9600 pro/xt will out musle a 9800 se (4 pixel pipelines, lower clocks)

time for some enlightenment

"The 9800SE does not come cheap considering the performance obtained. You can get a 9600 Pro, which will perform better for less than the cost of the 9800SE"

http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/r..._9800SE_1.html

i did some reserch the 9800se really really suxors
blocuse it's beat by a 9600 pro
and a 4200ti betas a 9600xt in 2001se by 1,000 pints @1024x768 with no aa/af

the market is really confusng right now there is alot of older chear cards the whoop the new cards

they hope you get confused and pay more for less .....

when u should be getting more whoile paying less

it's all a big monkey f**k

ex. a 9500 pro can whoop all three of the mentined cards

zerodamage · Dec 26, 2003, 04:52 PM

Well it doens't matter if a Ti 4200 can beat anything in 3dmark2001. Do not jujdge anything on those benchmarks. Use real world gaming results to base your decision.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Dec 26, 2003, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zerodamage
Well it doens't matter if a Ti 4200 can beat anything in 3dmark2001. Do not jujdge anything on those benchmarks. Use real world gaming results to base your decision.

with aa and af mabe the other cards would shine through but card markers are trying to shaft us buy makeing things verry confusion and making on card thet should be faster, faster ram faster gpu but then them muck with the bard desighn and texture units .. it looks faster but in life its slower makes no sence

beta them in real games to 3dmarks are easyier to rember then the fps of every single game of 100 diffrent cards

Markius · Dec 27, 2003, 12:04 AM

neon, did you read the article i linked above?...(quiet a few real world game benchies)
it shows the 9800se beating the 9600pro just as much as the 9600pro beats the 9800se...

like i said it depends what game you want to play....

***Veridian3*** · Dec 27, 2003, 12:21 AM

I've had very good experiences with Herc 9800SE AIW mods...

The_Neon_Cowboy · Dec 27, 2003, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Markius
neon, did you read the article i linked above?...(quiet a few real world game benchies)
it shows the 9800se beating the 9600pro just as much as the 9600pro beats the 9800se...

like i said it depends what game you want to play....

but did you read the one i posted?

9600 pro beats 9800se in 3dmark2003/2001se ut2003, gunmetal, code creatures, auqamark 3, x2 the threat... every test hey threw at thwen the 9600 pro came out better

that 9800se in that review is clocked at 380/340 thats pro speed
a 9800se is 325/250 thats a 17%/73% over defult

and the even in your review link the 9800se@ 380/340 is beat by the xt that goes for 154 shipped
thats @ abt. $25 less the the 9800se

take a look on price watch

Markius · Dec 27, 2003, 05:38 AM

yep thats right neon but...

i think the 9800se would be worth getting for the chance to mod it

Warpy · Dec 27, 2003, 02:13 PM

Your thoughts Neon?

dorkz · Dec 27, 2003, 02:55 PM

I've compared and contrasted a list of reviews from sharky xtreme to techspot and I'm finding myself leaning toward the 9600PRO.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Dec 28, 2003, 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by d4rkz
I've compared and contrasted a list of reviews from sharky xtreme to techspot and I'm finding myself leaning toward the 9600PRO.

if you gonna get a 9600 pro, pay the extra $20 and pop for an xt

Markius · Dec 28, 2003, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Neon_Cowboy
if you gonna get a 9600 pro, pay the extra $20 and pop for an xt

Indeed

Warpy · Dec 28, 2003, 08:01 AM

Thanks guys but which one:

See this thread: Which ATI 9600 PRO would you buy?

Dec 26, 2003, 09:02 AM	#1
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Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,269 Rep Power: 167 System Specs	I say go for the 9800 SE and hope that the softmod works with your card __________________

Dec 26, 2003, 04:10 PM	#7
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	acuaully a 9600 pro/xt will out musle a 9800 se (4 pixel pipelines, lower clocks) time for some enlightenment "The 9800SE does not come cheap considering the performance obtained. You can get a 9600 Pro, which will perform better for less than the cost of the 9800SE" http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/r..._9800SE_1.html i did some reserch the 9800se really really suxors blocuse it's beat by a 9600 pro and a 4200ti betas a 9600xt in 2001se by 1,000 pints @1024x768 with no aa/af the market is really confusng right now there is alot of older chear cards the whoop the new cards they hope you get confused and pay more for less ..... when u should be getting more whoile paying less it's all a big monkey f*k ex. a 9500 pro can whoop all three of the mentined cards __________________ Last edited by The_Neon_Cowboy; Dec 26, 2003 at 05:21 PM.*

Dec 26, 2003, 04:52 PM	#8
zerodamage HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 3,478 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Well it doens't matter if a Ti 4200 can beat anything in 3dmark2001. Do not jujdge anything on those benchmarks. Use real world gaming results to base your decision.

Dec 27, 2003, 12:04 AM	#10
Markius DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,350 Rep Power: 0	neon, did you read the article i linked above?...(quiet a few real world game benchies) it shows the 9800se beating the 9600pro just as much as the 9600pro beats the 9800se... like i said it depends what game you want to play.... __________________ DriverHeavens Aussie... "Lifes tragedy is that we get old too soon and wise too late"

Dec 27, 2003, 12:21 AM	#11
*Veridian3* Administrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cloaked Posts: 5,023 Rep Power: 181	I've had very good experiences with Herc 9800SE AIW mods...

Dec 27, 2003, 05:38 AM	#13
Markius DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,350 Rep Power: 0	yep thats right neon but... i think the 9800se would be worth getting for the chance to mod it __________________ DriverHeavens Aussie... "Lifes tragedy is that we get old too soon and wise too late"

Dec 27, 2003, 02:13 PM	Thread Starter #14
Warpy DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 2,761 Rep Power: 0	Your thoughts Neon? __________________ The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Dec 27, 2003, 02:55 PM	#15
dorkz Striving to overcome Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 100 Rep Power: 0	I've compared and contrasted a list of reviews from sharky xtreme to techspot and I'm finding myself leaning toward the 9600PRO.

Dec 28, 2003, 08:01 AM	Thread Starter #18
Warpy DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 2,761 Rep Power: 0	Thanks guys but which one: See this thread: Which ATI 9600 PRO would you buy? __________________ The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."