My 9700pro sucks

Muchacho1313 · Jan 16, 2004, 09:36 PM

Ok,

I just got this thing a couple weeks ago and the performance of this card is not very impressive. My old 9200 could compete with this card. Im clueless right now what to do. I returned an Asylum 5700 ultra to get the 9700pro and to be honest this card (9700) is far inferior. Well with the whining out of the way i know deep down it has to be my fault or my setting are messed up. Here is what I have and if you could please tell me what I should do i would appreciate it.

Radeon 9700 Pro
Chipset= (0x4E44)
Video Bios= BK-ATI VER008.015.058.000
(when i use SIS Software and click on the PCI agp info it says 9700/9500 R300)

System
Mainboard=Micro-Star International Model MS-6390 (just updated Bios)
AMD 2400XP 2.0
512 mg ram
Windows XP Pro (i tweaked all my useless settings like styles and what not)

So here i am. I was confident after returning the Asylum and upgrading to the 9700 that my socks would be knocked off. I play Enemy Territory and my fps are consistently sluggish.

Thank You

Me

blade5545 · Jan 16, 2004, 09:44 PM

Run at least one benchamark either be 3dmark 01 or 03 or run Aquamark and gave us the score and I will tell you if its performing as it should or not.

zerodamage · Jan 16, 2004, 09:48 PM

Well did you do a fresh install after removing the Nvidia card? Did you use Driver cleaner to remove the Nvidia stuff at least? Do you have DX9b installed and all of the other latest patches? Latest Drivers, chipset drivers, etc etc.

This card should be blowing away what you got on the 5700. The old drivers in your system could be causing the problem. Make sure they are gone or do a fresh install or use the Driver Cleaner Tool found on this site.

BWX · Jan 16, 2004, 09:49 PM

I bet it's not the cards fault. Maybe doa format C: After switching between Nvida and ATI IF YOU are having problems. I would like to see those bench scores because a 9700pro is faster than a 5700 in most every way.

Muchacho1313 · Jan 16, 2004, 09:58 PM

I did a fresh install of XP when i put this card in so its definately not the drivers. I reformatted the hard drive. The reason i did the fresh install was because of the crappy performance i was getting. I will run the 3dmark test and return in about 30 min

Thank You so far

BWX · Jan 16, 2004, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Muchacho1313
I did a fresh install of XP when i put this card in so its definately not the drivers. I reformatted the hard drive. The reason i did the fresh install was because of the crappy performance i was getting. I will run the 3dmark test and return in about 30 min

Thank You so far

Yeah, run aquamark, 3dmark01,3dmark03 and see what you get.

Are you turning off vsync and putting sliders to left as well as turning off AA and AF (app. preference) when you do benchmarks to see what the highest score you can get is?

What speed system memory are you running? What are the Mem timings set at?

Are you turning off Antivirus before you play games and do benchmarks?

What is in your system tray down by the speaker? Any icons?

Are you running system restore?

Have you turned off all the extra uneeded windows services like messenger, indexing, system restore, etc...
read this if you have not already. http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm

I have no idea what you have or have not done, or know or do not know, you have provided very limited info about your config (besides components) and untill you post up those benchies it's hard to know what you mean when you say the card is inferior..

" My old 9200 could compete with this card. Im clueless right now what to do."

---What do you mean? Slow game performance? What game? What do you mean by the 9200 could compete w/ the 9700pro? Have you used fraps to compare framerate or anything??

Saying things like this leads me to believe that something is very wrong with the card, or your system- or that you haven't done "something" right in the installation- or something....
We still don't know what games you even play.

"I did a fresh install of XP when i put this card in so its definately not the drivers."

--Well, just because you did a fresh install doesn't mean that the drivers are installed correctly, they still could be messed up.

Hopefully we can help you get it working better.

Just wondering because my 9700pro is very fast- no complaints here.

EDIT- go through and read each question in this thread made by me and other posters and at least TRY to answer them, it's the only way to get that system running faster- (if that's even the problem, again- we can only guess what the problem is because you haven't told us)

Muchacho1313 · Jan 17, 2004, 01:02 AM

ok,

Yes i do have all the programs closed. I play wolfenstien enemy territory. I can get decent fps when in small rooms but when i go out into the open they dip down into the 30s. Ive tried tweaking my configs and lowering all my settings but this doesnt seem to work. Ive even cranked all my configs and setting with no luck of course. I scored a 5758 on 3dmark03 and from the looks of other scores this may be good im not sure. If is better than I think your probably wanting to slug me in the gut. LoL Maybe it is that game that is messing things up. I thought for sure with this card I could stay well into the 76-80 fps range but in some maps it dips down into the 30-40 range. I have no clue how to update chipset drivers or flash my memory and ive tried to overclock and only get worse performance.
I guess the bottom line is.....I am retarted. LoL

blade5545 · Jan 17, 2004, 01:30 AM

If your getting 5758 in 3dMark03 then the only explanation I have is the there must something up with the game itself since you dont get scores like that with 9700 by accident. I would try reinstlalling the game and patching in it. That is a very high score which happens only on highly tweaked systems your previous cards the 9200 and the 5700 would never even get within a mile of that score. Your card is perfectly fine so is your system the problem lies within the game.

edperks · Jan 17, 2004, 01:51 AM

I have a 9700 pro on a Pent 4 2.4 and I only get around 5200 points stock. That a good score I play wolfenstien and get great frame rates maybe you need to re-install the game or see if you have all the updates installed. You should be rock'in with a score like that.

Fatal0E · Jan 17, 2004, 02:12 AM

make sure fast writes are off in bios for the ati card

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jan 17, 2004, 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Muchacho1313
Ok,

I just got this thing a couple weeks ago and the performance of this card is not very impressive. My old 9200 could compete with this card. Im clueless right now what to do. I returned an Asylum 5700 ultra to get the 9700pro and to be honest this card (9700) is far inferior.

its defonatly something wrong in the system the 9700 has alot more power...
also your system is holding you back abit, especally the 266 bus and your ram

Quote:

Originally posted by Muchacho1313
ok,

Yes i do have all the programs closed. I play wolfenstien enemy territory. I can get decent fps when in small rooms but when i go out into the open they dip down into the 30s. Ive tried tweaking my configs and lowering all my settings but this doesnt seem to work. Ive even cranked all my configs and setting with no luck of course. I scored a 5758 on 3dmark03 and from the looks of other scores this may be good im not sure. If is better than I think your probably wanting to slug me in the gut. LoL Maybe it is that game that is messing things up. I thought for sure with this card I could stay well into the 76-80 fps range but in some maps it dips down into the 30-40 range. I have no clue how to update chipset drivers or flash my memory and ive tried to overclock and only get worse performance.
I guess the bottom line is.....I am retarted. LoL

ok

don't worry i'm here

first off i'd reccomend you try the omega drivers
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/downloads/index4.htm

your latest chipset drivers
http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=300

try that and let us know

Muchacho1313 · Jan 17, 2004, 03:16 AM

Thanks for all the help guys. Every time I ask Im always pointed in the right direction. You guys dont know me from adam and your helping me oput so im very lucky to have found this site. Could you please tell me how to figure out which drivers i need for the vga and how to install them Cowboy? Also when i underclock the card it does seem to improve performance a little. Overclocking makes it worse(in the game Enemy Trerritoy not 3Dmark)?!?!? I dont know

Thanks a Mill

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jan 17, 2004, 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Muchacho1313
Thanks for all the help guys. Every time I ask Im always pointed in the right direction. You guys dont know me from adam and your helping me oput so im very lucky to have found this site. Could you please tell me how to figure out which drivers i need for the vga and how to install them Cowboy? Also when i underclock the card it does seem to improve performance a little. Overclocking makes it worse(in the game Enemy Trerritoy not 3Dmark)?!?!? I dont know

Thanks a Mill

download the rad_w2kxp_omega_2504
and just double click and fallow the prompts

BUT FIRST.... before you install you need to uninstall the old driver try this program
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/cleaner/
after that reboot and then install your new drivers

as for over clocking usally speeds things up but its best no to mess with anything to your truly sure you know what your doing. also, some games are more sensitive to overclocks and won't run right with them.

I'd try to get things working well stock before i even considerd o/cing... even then you should read up all you can before you even think to much about it. Its kinda simple but it's also esy to do more harm then good if your not carefull....there also some risk involved

for now i wouldn't worry about doing it.

he 9700 pro is a pretty powerfull card on its own

~~Crash Override~~ · Jan 17, 2004, 03:57 AM

1. You do have the chipset drivers installed right?

2. How many fans and what type do you have installed in your system?

~~HawK~~ · Jan 17, 2004, 07:05 AM

one more thing to add:
When changing Graphic card, I found it is wise not to use saved save-games, for some games use the settings in the registry
and refuse to change them. or keep (some) settings in save games, better reinstalling the game,(after deinstalling check the registry (do a search for "gamename" & developer of game)) again, there is no rule, some games do & some don't,
and this is why a mayor upgrade as a GraphicCard certainly is, really needs a reinstallment of Windows & Games(if they are on another partition)
it is a hassle, but better 2 hours of installing windows than a months long search for unknown problems and then reinstalling Windows

Markius · Jan 17, 2004, 01:30 PM

Enemy Territory is an Online only game.
i think it might be the game that doesnt like ATi cards as much as nvidia.
Although i get higher FPS on my 9800 pro128mb the game seemed to have a more consistent FPS on my FX5600 256mb making the game seem "smoother".

ET is an open GL game... maybe have a fiddle with the Open GL settings for your card....
hope that helps in some way!

megatron · Jan 17, 2004, 04:08 PM

That 3dmak03 score is almost exactly the same as mine. I have a 9700pro and was running 215fsb with 2.4Ghz xp1800. 384/337 were the pro's clocks. Its strange that u r using less the 200Mhz fsb and get that score (or maybe its just the benchmark is gfx card weighted significantly).

I play Americas Army mostly and that game also has inside and outside areas. The trick to improving from rates is CPU speed. SInce I tried with card clocked as above, but 215fsb and 2356Mhz cpu, and 200Mhz and 2.4Ghz. The fsb don't matter so much just the CPU.

BWX · Jan 19, 2004, 01:59 AM

I was gonna say if you only have 256mb of system ram, I know for a fact that enemy territory is choppy no matter what- Because I used to play it when I had only 256mb of ram, but I see muchocho guy has 512-

hmmm, try to set geometric detail down a noch and see if the frames go up in open areas- I bet they will quite a bit. Still, with that system, it should never go down to 30 fps, W/O Vsync on-- are you SURE Vsync is off?? Try turning off Vsync and experimenting with triple buffering in the OpenGL control panel.

BetrayerX · Jan 19, 2004, 04:34 PM

Defrag. Enenmy Territory textures are big and a defrag might help a bit.

Goat_Guy · Jan 19, 2004, 05:22 PM

I second the vote to defrag. Using my 9500=>9700, I can run ET @ 1280x1024 with all settings maxed out (6AA,16AF, high textures, everything else max) and still get at least 35 fps. But 256meg ram is also a HUGE factor

~~Crash Override~~ · Jan 20, 2004, 09:02 AM

Defragmenting will do nothing for game performance

Hard Drives have absolutely nothing to do with levels once they are loaded (shy of levels that only load portions of themselves and then load as you go like a few racing games that I know of for PS2, but thats still streamed off the dvd.)

I would just upgrade your memory as with 256 you are at the minimum of what xp will even somewhat run decently on

512 really is better by a ton. 768 is the happiest you will find it at minus 1GB in dual channel mode.

zerodamage · Jan 20, 2004, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Muchacho1313
ok,

Yes i do have all the programs closed. I play wolfenstien enemy territory. I can get decent fps when in small rooms but when i go out into the open they dip down into the 30s. Ive tried tweaking my configs and lowering all my settings but this doesnt seem to work. Ive even cranked all my configs and setting with no luck of course. I scored a 5758 on 3dmark03 and from the looks of other scores this may be good im not sure. If is better than I think your probably wanting to slug me in the gut. LoL Maybe it is that game that is messing things up. I thought for sure with this card I could stay well into the 76-80 fps range but in some maps it dips down into the 30-40 range. I have no clue how to update chipset drivers or flash my memory and ive tried to overclock and only get worse performance.
I guess the bottom line is.....I am retarted. LoL

Make sure you have Truform turned off. Also, check Smartgart and make sure everything is on. It sounds like something isn't working properly. Try reinstalling the drivers again over the top of your current drivers.

BWX · Jan 20, 2004, 03:47 PM

You guys need to read a little more thoroughly, he DOES HAVE 512 MB of ram-

I was saying IF HE DID NOT, then that might be the problem...... He has 512, so ram should be a non-issue. Also, defragging won't help FPS, unless you have 256mb of ram only, then the pagefile will be used in the game, so a defrag could possible help a little- but the performance would be so choppy it wouldn't matter anyway.

from 1st post:

"Radeon 9700 Pro
Chipset= (0x4E44)
Video Bios= BK-ATI VER008.015.058.000.........
System
Mainboard=Micro-Star International Model MS-6390............
AMD 2400XP 2.0
[color=yellow]512 mg ram[/color]
Windows XP Pro......"

BBThumper · Jan 21, 2004, 04:22 PM

........I only seen the slow downs you talked about when running in OpenGL. Are you using D3D or Opengl?.........

megatron · Jan 26, 2004, 04:30 AM

I had to reinstall recently since the gfx card would not run with agp acceleration and all in smart gart was turned off. Nothing I could do.

Jan 16, 2004, 09:36 PM	#1
Muchacho1313 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 59 Rep Power: 0	My 9700pro sucks Ok, I just got this thing a couple weeks ago and the performance of this card is not very impressive. My old 9200 could compete with this card. Im clueless right now what to do. I returned an Asylum 5700 ultra to get the 9700pro and to be honest this card (9700) is far inferior. Well with the whining out of the way i know deep down it has to be my fault or my setting are messed up. Here is what I have and if you could please tell me what I should do i would appreciate it. Radeon 9700 Pro Chipset= (0x4E44) Video Bios= BK-ATI VER008.015.058.000 (when i use SIS Software and click on the PCI agp info it says 9700/9500 R300) System Mainboard=Micro-Star International Model MS-6390 (just updated Bios) AMD 2400XP 2.0 512 mg ram Windows XP Pro (i tweaked all my useless settings like styles and what not) So here i am. I was confident after returning the Asylum and upgrading to the 9700 that my socks would be knocked off. I play Enemy Territory and my fps are consistently sluggish. Thank You Me

Jan 16, 2004, 09:44 PM	#2
blade5545 Shoots first ask's questions later Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Austin,TX Posts: 330 Rep Power: 0	Run at least one benchamark either be 3dmark 01 or 03 or run Aquamark and gave us the score and I will tell you if its performing as it should or not. __________________ Dell Inspiron 700m 2 ghz Intel Mobile 2mb L2 cache 12.1 Ultrabrite 1.25 gig ram 80gig hdd 8x DVD-RW 4.5lbs 1.5" thick 5 hours battery DFI NF4 Ultra - D AMD Winchester 64 3200+ @4125+ 2.62ghz sold Swiftech H20-120-BB REV. 3 LIQUID COOLING KIT 2x512 OCZ EL DDR PC-3200 Dual Channel sold Platinum Rev 2 OCZ POWERSTREAM 520W sold ATI X700 PRO SEAGATE 160GIG SATA Windows XP PRO SP2 / PearPC - Apple OS X 10.2 Unknown "The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself."

Jan 16, 2004, 09:49 PM	#4
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	I bet it's not the cards fault. Maybe doa format C: After switching between Nvida and ATI IF YOU are having problems. I would like to see those bench scores because a 9700pro is faster than a 5700 in most every way. __________________

Jan 17, 2004, 01:30 AM	#8
blade5545 Shoots first ask's questions later Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Austin,TX Posts: 330 Rep Power: 0	If your getting 5758 in 3dMark03 then the only explanation I have is the there must something up with the game itself since you dont get scores like that with 9700 by accident. I would try reinstlalling the game and patching in it. That is a very high score which happens only on highly tweaked systems your previous cards the 9200 and the 5700 would never even get within a mile of that score. Your card is perfectly fine so is your system the problem lies within the game. __________________ Dell Inspiron 700m 2 ghz Intel Mobile 2mb L2 cache 12.1 Ultrabrite 1.25 gig ram 80gig hdd 8x DVD-RW 4.5lbs 1.5" thick 5 hours battery DFI NF4 Ultra - D AMD Winchester 64 3200+ @4125+ 2.62ghz sold Swiftech H20-120-BB REV. 3 LIQUID COOLING KIT 2x512 OCZ EL DDR PC-3200 Dual Channel sold Platinum Rev 2 OCZ POWERSTREAM 520W sold ATI X700 PRO SEAGATE 160GIG SATA Windows XP PRO SP2 / PearPC - Apple OS X 10.2 Unknown "The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself."

Jan 17, 2004, 01:30 PM	#16
Markius DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,350 Rep Power: 0	Enemy Territory is an Online only game. i think it might be the game that doesnt like ATi cards as much as nvidia. Although i get higher FPS on my 9800 pro128mb the game seemed to have a more consistent FPS on my FX5600 256mb making the game seem "smoother". ET is an open GL game... maybe have a fiddle with the Open GL settings for your card.... hope that helps in some way! __________________ DriverHeavens Aussie... "Lifes tragedy is that we get old too soon and wise too late" Last edited by Markius; Jan 19, 2004 at 02:52 AM.

Jan 16, 2004, 09:48 PM	#3
zerodamage HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 3,478 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Well did you do a fresh install after removing the Nvidia card? Did you use Driver cleaner to remove the Nvidia stuff at least? Do you have DX9b installed and all of the other latest patches? Latest Drivers, chipset drivers, etc etc. This card should be blowing away what you got on the 5700. The old drivers in your system could be causing the problem. Make sure they are gone or do a fresh install or use the Driver Cleaner Tool found on this site.

Jan 16, 2004, 09:58 PM	Thread Starter #5
Muchacho1313 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 59 Rep Power: 0	I did a fresh install of XP when i put this card in so its definately not the drivers. I reformatted the hard drive. The reason i did the fresh install was because of the crappy performance i was getting. I will run the 3dmark test and return in about 30 min Thank You so far

Jan 17, 2004, 01:02 AM	Thread Starter #7
Muchacho1313 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 59 Rep Power: 0	ok, Yes i do have all the programs closed. I play wolfenstien enemy territory. I can get decent fps when in small rooms but when i go out into the open they dip down into the 30s. Ive tried tweaking my configs and lowering all my settings but this doesnt seem to work. Ive even cranked all my configs and setting with no luck of course. I scored a 5758 on 3dmark03 and from the looks of other scores this may be good im not sure. If is better than I think your probably wanting to slug me in the gut. LoL Maybe it is that game that is messing things up. I thought for sure with this card I could stay well into the 76-80 fps range but in some maps it dips down into the 30-40 range. I have no clue how to update chipset drivers or flash my memory and ive tried to overclock and only get worse performance. I guess the bottom line is.....I am retarted. LoL

Jan 17, 2004, 01:51 AM	#9
edperks HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 780 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I have a 9700 pro on a Pent 4 2.4 and I only get around 5200 points stock. That a good score I play wolfenstien and get great frame rates maybe you need to re-install the game or see if you have all the updates installed. You should be rock'in with a score like that.

Jan 17, 2004, 02:12 AM	#10
Fatal0E DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 29 Rep Power: 0	make sure fast writes are off in bios for the ati card

Jan 17, 2004, 03:16 AM	Thread Starter #12
Muchacho1313 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 59 Rep Power: 0	Thanks for all the help guys. Every time I ask Im always pointed in the right direction. You guys dont know me from adam and your helping me oput so im very lucky to have found this site. Could you please tell me how to figure out which drivers i need for the vga and how to install them Cowboy? Also when i underclock the card it does seem to improve performance a little. Overclocking makes it worse(in the game Enemy Trerritoy not 3Dmark)?!?!? I dont know Thanks a Mill

Jan 17, 2004, 03:57 AM	#14
~~Crash Override~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 2,448 Rep Power: 0	1. You do have the chipset drivers installed right? 2. How many fans and what type do you have installed in your system?

Jan 17, 2004, 07:05 AM	#15
~~HawK~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,092 Rep Power: 0	one more thing to add: When changing Graphic card, I found it is wise not to use saved save-games, for some games use the settings in the registry and refuse to change them. or keep (some) settings in save games, better reinstalling the game,(after deinstalling check the registry (do a search for "gamename" & developer of game)) again, there is no rule, some games do & some don't, and this is why a mayor upgrade as a GraphicCard certainly is, really needs a reinstallment of Windows & Games(if they are on another partition) it is a hassle, but better 2 hours of installing windows than a months long search for unknown problems and then reinstalling Windows

Jan 17, 2004, 04:08 PM	#17
megatron DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 93 Rep Power: 0	That 3dmak03 score is almost exactly the same as mine. I have a 9700pro and was running 215fsb with 2.4Ghz xp1800. 384/337 were the pro's clocks. Its strange that u r using less the 200Mhz fsb and get that score (or maybe its just the benchmark is gfx card weighted significantly). I play Americas Army mostly and that game also has inside and outside areas. The trick to improving from rates is CPU speed. SInce I tried with card clocked as above, but 215fsb and 2356Mhz cpu, and 200Mhz and 2.4Ghz. The fsb don't matter so much just the CPU. __________________ My system specs and 3dmark2001se score Rad8500 bioses, UT2k3, GTA3 pages & more. Also watercooling endeavours.

Jan 19, 2004, 01:59 AM	#18
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	I was gonna say if you only have 256mb of system ram, I know for a fact that enemy territory is choppy no matter what- Because I used to play it when I had only 256mb of ram, but I see muchocho guy has 512- hmmm, try to set geometric detail down a noch and see if the frames go up in open areas- I bet they will quite a bit. Still, with that system, it should never go down to 30 fps, W/O Vsync on-- are you SURE Vsync is off?? Try turning off Vsync and experimenting with triple buffering in the OpenGL control panel. __________________

Jan 19, 2004, 04:34 PM	#19
BetrayerX DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 111 Rep Power: 0	Defrag. Enenmy Territory textures are big and a defrag might help a bit. __________________ Are you wise enough to admit your own ignorance?

Jan 19, 2004, 05:22 PM	#20
Goat_Guy DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 100 Rep Power: 0	I second the vote to defrag. Using my 9500=>9700, I can run ET @ 1280x1024 with all settings maxed out (6AA,16AF, high textures, everything else max) and still get at least 35 fps. But 256meg ram is also a HUGE factor

Jan 20, 2004, 09:02 AM	#21
~~Crash Override~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 2,448 Rep Power: 0	Defragmenting will do nothing for game performance Hard Drives have absolutely nothing to do with levels once they are loaded (shy of levels that only load portions of themselves and then load as you go like a few racing games that I know of for PS2, but thats still streamed off the dvd.) I would just upgrade your memory as with 256 you are at the minimum of what xp will even somewhat run decently on 512 really is better by a ton. 768 is the happiest you will find it at minus 1GB in dual channel mode.

Jan 20, 2004, 03:47 PM	#23
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	You guys need to read a little more thoroughly, he DOES HAVE 512 MB of ram- I was saying IF HE DID NOT, then that might be the problem...... He has 512, so ram should be a non-issue. Also, defragging won't help FPS, unless you have 256mb of ram only, then the pagefile will be used in the game, so a defrag could possible help a little- but the performance would be so choppy it wouldn't matter anyway. from 1st post: "Radeon 9700 Pro Chipset= (0x4E44) Video Bios= BK-ATI VER008.015.058.000......... System Mainboard=Micro-Star International Model MS-6390............ AMD 2400XP 2.0 [color=yellow]512 mg ram[/color] Windows XP Pro......" __________________

Jan 21, 2004, 04:22 PM	#24
BBThumper DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 81 Rep Power: 0	........I only seen the slow downs you talked about when running in OpenGL. Are you using D3D or Opengl?......... __________________ P4C800-E Deluxe 2.4C @ 3.5ghz 2x256 OCZ EL Gold pc3700 ATI 9800 XT X-pider Turbo case w/alot of pretty lights 3DMark2k1 Aqua Mark 3dMark2k3

Jan 26, 2004, 04:30 AM	#25
megatron DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 93 Rep Power: 0	I had to reinstall recently since the gfx card would not run with agp acceleration and all in smart gart was turned off. Nothing I could do. __________________ My system specs and 3dmark2001se score Rad8500 bioses, UT2k3, GTA3 pages & more. Also watercooling endeavours.