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Old Apr 12, 2005, 10:25 PM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #421
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you CANT CHANGE 350 to xt bios END OF STORY

you gonna see those shadowing bugs and the one who told me they dont see it on a r350 core is a liar...

so some of the scores around here are buggy ones because of those shadowing bugs..

i do normal on my 9800pro with 450/375 around 6900k on 3dmark03 and with the xt bios and shadowing bugs like 7400k


i get that score because of those bugs not because is running at xt bios..
[color=black]Are you NUTs????? I have a 9800SE with a 350 core running an XT BIOS with no shadowing and no nothing!!!!! you newbie eint gona come into my house and call me a liar!!!! GET IT!!!! bozzzooo!!! [/color]

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[color=black]the fact that you have a crappy core that can't handle it with an XT BIOS doesn't mean the rest of us or some of us weren't lucky enough...[/color]

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[color=black]SO wither you apologize or make like the wind and blow!!!!![/color]

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[color=black]this thread has been running for like more then a year now and many people have been using my help to convert to xt, most have been successful and some haven't... so what.... but none of them was as RUDE as you!!!![/color]
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Old Apr 13, 2005, 11:17 PM   #422
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like we say here

SI NO TE GUSTA
BREGA CON ESO PAPA

you cant mod the card on r350 core without seeing thos shadowing bugs on 3dmark01 and 03
end of story.

im rude for telling the true? nice

so my core is a crap?
why i get more points than you without having to put a buggy bios on mine?

[color=#000000]this thread has been running for like more then a year now and many people have been using my help to convert to xt, most have been successful and some haven't... so what.... but none of them was as RUDE as you!!!![/color]


[color=white]yeah with r360 cores XD[/color]

[color=#ffffff]i think ppl forgot 3dmaxx.net[/color]
[color=#ffffff]who was the 1st site to do this and modified those bios...[/color]
[color=#ffffff]and was no success with r350 core..[/color]

[color=#ffffff]your 7k with those bios on r350 core are buggys have a nice day...[/color]

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like we say here
[color=#ffffff]i think ppl forgot 3dmaxx.net[/color]
[color=#ffffff]who was the 1st site to do this and modified those bios...[/color]
[color=#ffffff]and was no success with r350 core..[/color]
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I never forgot 3dmaxx I helped run the same thread in 3dmaxx as well.... I even tried to help the owner to get it online... but didn't hold... after he came back with another domain name it just wasn't the same... and people never came back.. thats how I came across DriverHeaven. I got in touch with Zardon and he helped build up this thread and the www.hardwareheaven.com/bios host. which was build with the help of what I managed to salvage from 3dmaxx after the host deleted the site... so please... dont be a smart ass... cause it doesn't become you.. and does not go well with the spirit of this thread..

ALL are welcomed... I do my best to help every one.. we DO NOT LIE around here...

take it or leave it my freind..

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no man you get my words wrong...
i dont want to end your topic because the trick works but with r360 cores..

didnt know that part glad you mention it XD
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I will back me972 here, he helped me make my SE card with 350 core a 9800XT. And i say BIG THANKS, no artifacts, NONE.

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I will back me972 here, he helped me make my SE card with 350 core a 9800XT. And i say BIG THANKS, no artifacts, NONE.

Thanks me

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PM'ed you back...

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Old May 20, 2005, 01:50 PM   #427
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Hi!
At last I tried the flashing, but i got an error msg. What's wrong? Thanks.

http://picuro.tar.hu/flash.jpg

The result of flashrom -i :


adapter bn dn dID asic flash ID flash type remap lock romsize
======= == == ==== =============== ===== ==== ============== ===== ==== =======
0* 02 00 4148 R300/R350 - - ST M25P05/c - yes 0x10000
Note: * - Active/boot-up device.
/c - or compatible parts.

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At last I tried the flashing, but i got an error msg. What's wrong? Thanks.

http://picuro.tar.hu/flash.jpg

The result of flashrom -i :


adapter bn dn dID asic flash ID flash type remap lock romsize
======= == == ==== =============== ===== ==== ============== ===== ==== =======
0* 02 00 4148 R300/R350 - - ST M25P05/c - yes 0x10000
Note: * - Active/boot-up device.
/c - or compatible parts.
what version of flashrom are you useing?? 2.40 is the latest.
are you entering the correct command?
what mfg of card do you have???
have you tried a different bios file? i had some modded bios files that just would not flash.
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Hi!
At last I tried the flashing, but i got an error msg. What's wrong? Thanks.

http://picuro.tar.hu/flash.jpg

The result of flashrom -i :


adapter bn dn dID asic flash ID flash type remap lock romsize
======= == == ==== =============== ===== ==== ============== ===== ==== =======
0* 02 00 4148 R300/R350 - - ST M25P05/c - yes 0x10000
Note: * - Active/boot-up device.
/c - or compatible parts.
have you tried a FORCED flash with the -F flag???
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Hi!
At last I tried the flashing, but i got an error msg. What's wrong? Thanks.

http://picuro.tar.hu/flash.jpg

The result of flashrom -i :


adapter bn dn dID asic flash ID flash type remap lock romsize
======= == == ==== =============== ===== ==== ============== ===== ==== =======
0* 02 00 4148 R300/R350 - - ST M25P05/c - yes 0x10000
Note: * - Active/boot-up device.
/c - or compatible parts.
have you tried a forced flash with the -F flag???
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have you tried a forced flash with the -F flag???
hey me972,
i sold my card a couple months ago.i didnt force a flash because i did not have a pci card to reflash if it went bad.all the bios you have posted here at dh flashed fine.there was some that i got from another site that had modded mem timings that i had problems with.i wanted to go for your clock speed but i just didnt have time to figure out how to enhance the correct timings where i got an improved oc.thx for all the help and competition when i was messing around with your bios files.i tried a couple of times to mess with my x800pro timings but with no success.for some reason the later pros do not let us change much in the bios.i am letting the as5 burn in before i go for some serious ocs.this card does 10900 right out of the box in 3dmark03,so i havent been to worried about pushing it yet.

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Old May 29, 2005, 01:42 PM   #432
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I have a Palit 9800se that work's great softmoded.
It has a R360 core.
I have Samsung 2.8 ns memory, and STANDARD pcb like pro.
I've tried flashing other bios.. but it says: bios locked.
So I had to flashed with this command: flashrom -p -sst 0 bios.bin -f
It worked.. but only when flashed with his own bios, if I try a 9800pro/se/xt bios, my computer doesn't boot anymore
Ok.. no problem.. inserted a pci card, reflash to original, and everything was ok again :P
Withch biose to use :P ?

What can I do to make it work like xt, and use r360 core ?
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Thumbs Up! Palit 9800SE to XT

Palit 9800SE to XT
I've finaly did it. Palit 9800se 128M 256Bits With Samsung 2.8 ms memory to XT
Try this at your own risk.
1. Hardmoded it using a graphite pen.
2. Put ati silencer 1 rev 2 on it
3. Flash with my bios using this command for flashrom 2.40: flashrom -p -sst 0 bios.bin -f
Bios File Here: http://forums.techpowerup.com/attach...tachmentid=364
Bios.bin is your bios file.
If you don't use this command the card won't flash because it's locked.
Other thing: if you don't flash this bios, It won't work!!! Simply the card won't boot, and you need an aditional pci card to restore it.

This bios Is set XT default speeds 412/365 and optimized so it will support this speed if you have a silencer on it.
I had to edit several mem settings, because Palit 9800SE mem settings are more agressive then XT.
The reson that this card won't accept any other bios is some sort of code added to bios image, so I had to edit it from original bios.
This one is R360 core (mine) if you wan't one for R350 mail me.
By the way ... Before hard moding and patching the bios I had some sort of checker bord in some games 9some areas) . Disabling hierarchical z makes them dissapierd. Now I think that it was an error generated by moded drivers, or diferences betwin R360 and R350 cores. .. but must probable from moded drivers
But now it's completly gone!!! SO I THINK IT WORTH HARDMODINGAnd if You have a R360 core THE ONLY WAY TO TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF IT IS HARDMODING!!!
Just flashing the bios and installing Omegadrivers to patcht to XT WON'T work!!! I've already tried.. for example: I fist flashed the bios, installed omega drivers to XT.. Resulting benchmark in 3dMark2003 was with 400/365 ---- 5890 PCT .. After I've hardmoded it and flashed my bios the score for 380/320 was 5950 pct. Take a good look at frecvencies
I've spend 1 hour trying to unlock it with graphite pen. If intersted.. I'll make a post how to doit
The reson that this metod isn't so known for 9800se cards is that the surface is mutch like writing on glass

By the way on XT bios, 412/365 I've scored 6500pct in 3dmark2003
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attach...tachmentid=363

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Palit 9800SE to XT
I've finaly did it. Palit 9800se 128M 256Bits With Samsung 2.8 ms memory to XT
Try this at your own risk.
1. Hardmoded it using a graphite pen.
2. Put ati silencer 1 rev 2 on it
3. Flash with my bios using this command for flashrom 2.40: flashrom -p -sst 0 bios.bin -f
Bios File Here: http://forums.techpowerup.com/attach...tachmentid=364
Bios.bin is your bios file.
If you don't use this command the card won't flash because it's locked.
Other thing: if you don't flash this bios, It won't work!!! Simply the card won't boot, and you need an aditional pci card to restore it.

This bios Is set XT default speeds 412/365 and optimized so it will support this speed if you have a silencer on it.
I had to edit several mem settings, because Palit 9800SE mem settings are more agressive then XT.
The reson that this card won't accept any other bios is some sort of code added to bios image, so I had to edit it from original bios.
This one is R360 core (mine) if you wan't one for R350 mail me.
By the way ... Before hard moding and patching the bios I had some sort of checker bord in some games 9some areas) . Disabling hierarchical z makes them dissapierd. Now I think that it was an error generated by moded drivers, or diferences betwin R360 and R350 cores. .. but must probable from moded drivers
But now it's completly gone!!! SO I THINK IT WORTH HARDMODINGAnd if You have a R360 core THE ONLY WAY TO TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF IT IS HARDMODING!!!
Just flashing the bios and installing Omegadrivers to patcht to XT WON'T work!!! I've already tried.. for example: I fist flashed the bios, installed omega drivers to XT.. Resulting benchmark in 3dMark2003 was with 400/365 ---- 5890 PCT .. After I've hardmoded it and flashed my bios the score for 380/320 was 5950 pct. Take a good look at frecvencies
I've spend 1 hour trying to unlock it with graphite pen. If intersted.. I'll make a post how to doit
The reson that this metod isn't so known for 9800se cards is that the surface is mutch like writing on glass

By the way on XT bios, 412/365 I've scored 6500pct in 3dmark2003
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attach...tachmentid=363
Good on you man... welcome to the XT club.

Id just like to add to what you've said..... AFTER doing the hard mod you donot need to use the OMEGA moded drivers any more...
you can either use OMEGA regular install or the CAT's by ATI.... the will both recognize your card as an XT and will work with all 8 pipes enabled.

ALL af you out there let me remind you that doing the hard mod will revoke your warenty so be carfull as to what you do.... if your a complete newbie ask first and do after... this why we are here...

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Just to add on what me972 said...

If your hardmod fails, you can say hello to a very expensive ATi paperweight!!!
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Thumbs Up!

It works perfectly. I know about the drivers.. I don't like moded ones. Omega in normal mode mutch more stable.
Abaut the waranty.. I won't loose it.. because I've hardmoded using a graphite pen, using a method invented by me (surface was too much like glass so the graphite can make connection )
Anny way.. by I've used the pulber from graphite pen, witch under presure (by pressing) makes a good connecton.

I can easealy erase it any time I want :P
The reson I've post previos post is for the ones with Palit 9800se this card cand be easy soft moded.. but when it cames to harmoding you have a problem.. It won't accept any other bios except his own.. and bios locked.. so I've post that how you can bypass it.

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At last I tried the flashing, but i got an error msg. What's wrong? Thanks.

http://picuro.tar.hu/flash.jpg

The result of flashrom -i :


adapter bn dn dID asic flash ID flash type remap lock romsize
======= == == ==== =============== ===== ==== ============== ===== ==== =======
0* 02 00 4148 R300/R350 - - ST M25P05/c - yes 0x10000
Note: * - Active/boot-up device.
/c - or compatible parts.

Use this command: flashrom -p -sst 0 bios.bin -f This will work .. but...
From your attached pic... it result that you are trying to use a bios with diferent mem config.. I think it won't work.. if you are trying a bios for samsung on hynix card.

What card do you have ?
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Just to add on what me972 said...

If your hardmod fails, you can say hello to a very expensive ATi paperweight!!!

Just dont be alarmed about all this... if you have any sort of know how in soldering and electronics this is going to be a quicky... and you've got a full XT
if this is the first time your handling a soldering iron then go find a good friend that can help or an electronics shop to help you...

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rolleyes

I'm good on soldering but why loose my warranty ??
I've done it with a graphite pen my own method
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I'm good on soldering but why loose my warranty ??
I've done it with a graphite pen my own method

well its not actually your own since most of the hard mod guides tell u to do just that :->


but who cares... its an XT now he he he
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) I didn't find anywere how to hardmod 9800 with a graphite pen )
They all doit with conductive ink, because the surface is too glass like, and graphite pen won't adere on it So I gues Is my own
I'll post instruction how to doit.. but I have some exams.
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The bios samsung link isnt working for me, any idea?
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If you have a palit 9800se Try this link for bios (bios is working only on palit 9800se cards):

http://www.chip.ro/forum/download.php?id=2627

and here you cvan see my performance with this bios and hardmod:
http://www.chip.ro/forum/download.php?id=2626

I can mod your bios too if you send me a dump of your bios, and you tell me your exactr core: R360 or R350 (taked from the chip)

If you have palit 9800se 128 M 256bits that bios will work for sure.. all the people i've send it to them worked very well.
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Okay i got it flashed from a 9800PRO SAMSUNG to a 9800XT SAMSUNG and now when I try to play CS (OPENGL) OR cs:SOURCE (DX)

I get this: http://img270.echo.cx/img270/88/snapshot00019ru.jpg

My windows screen is fine,everything is fine till it goes into game.

Also a note when the pc first boots into windows (windows login screen) the monitor goes idle for 10 seconds than comes back and it boots into windows.
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Okay i got it flashed from a 9800PRO SAMSUNG to a 9800XT SAMSUNG and now when I try to play CS (OPENGL) OR cs:SOURCE (DX)

I get this: http://img270.echo.cx/img270/88/snapshot00019ru.jpg

My windows screen is fine,everything is fine till it goes into game.

Also a note when the pc first boots into windows (windows login screen) the monitor goes idle for 10 seconds than comes back and it boots into windows.

That XT bios is wrong for you... if you want you can send me a copy of your original BIOS and I'll make you one thats compatible with your card...

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are you sure that you have a palit 9800se 256bits ?
use aida32 to see that.
This bios posted by me, is only for Palit 9800SE 128M 256Bits
For this card no other bios worked, no SE bios, PRO, XT, none. so I guest my bios won't work for ofther cards too.
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[color=#666666]Palit 9800XT 128M
HDD1 160G DiamondMax10
HDD2 80G WDJB
Leadtek TV2000XP
LG GSA-4160B
BENQ 4816P
TT 420W APFC[color=#999999][/color][/color]

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Old Jun 24, 2005, 12:37 PM   #447
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I have an ATI 9800 pro 128M which I'm considering modding, which XT bios would be best for it? Also, the download link on the DH Bios page seems to be broken?
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Old Jun 24, 2005, 05:45 PM   #448
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The one posted by me isn't good for you
Try here.
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Leadtek TV2000XP
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TT 420W APFC[color=#999999][/color][/color]
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Old Jun 26, 2005, 05:10 PM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #449
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Quote:
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I have an ATI 9800 pro 128M which I'm considering modding, which XT bios would be best for it? Also, the download link on the DH Bios page seems to be broken?
goto www.hardwareheaven.com/bios

this link hold the bios files and is currently online... just checked it. :-)

they should all work ok with your card..

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Old Jun 27, 2005, 01:45 PM   #450
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This is the link in question right? I'm still getting a Not Found error. Thanks for the help
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