Poor performance - 9800xt problem?

Feef · Apr 8, 2004, 12:12 PM

Hi there!

As you can see on the subject - my problem is that i have a poor performance in games.
my sys:
Gigabyte GA7NNXP, AMD XP3200+,1024mb ddr400 (dual), Saphire 9800xt, sblive 5.1

Example farcry:
the fps are very low... 10-30, indoor levels a little bit more.
i tried out different settings, but only if i set all to low it works fine.
some friends of mine has the game too and they play this with high settings, but with more badly computers (9600, xp1800+,..)
this is very annoying...

example bf vietnam:
same as farcry, poor fps, only if i set all settings to low, it works fine.

actual omega drivers installed and i have done a clean re-install of the sys. its only 2 day old.
has anyone some ideas? its really sad that i have a good system, but games are running better on my notebook with an ati mobility....

tica · Apr 8, 2004, 12:44 PM

try to disable second 9800xt device in control panel

Feef · Apr 8, 2004, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tica
try to disable second 9800xt device in control panel

makes no difference
im really getting mad

Bart1987 · Apr 8, 2004, 01:36 PM

Have you installed the chipset drivers? Is your AGP apperature size at the right size? Do you have AA and AF forced on in the control panel?

Feef · Apr 8, 2004, 01:53 PM

Chipset drivers are installed (nforce 3.13)
i dont have an option for AGP-Aperture size in my bios.
FSAA and AF are off.

Bart1987 · Apr 8, 2004, 01:59 PM

Is everything (agp, directdraw and D3d) activated in directx. You can check with dxdiag (start>run>typ dxdiag>press "enter")

Feef · Apr 8, 2004, 02:07 PM

Sure, all enabled.
i hoped anyone got the same prob and solved it

but every tip can be the solution for my problem, so thx

Feef · Apr 8, 2004, 03:04 PM

I notied now that i have the same framerate at
800x600,1024x768,1280x1024 and 1600x1200.
only the mouse seems to "lag" a little bit more the higher it gets

Bart1987 · Apr 8, 2004, 03:16 PM

Wrathfox had problems with his card and with his FPS. he resolved it y installing the new catalyst. Perhaps you could try and install the catalyst 4.4 driver.

Feef · Apr 8, 2004, 04:47 PM

i installed 4.4 now and it runs a little bit faster. 20-40 fps
can anyone tell me the fps at 1024x768. all settings high (not very high)
no fsaa or af? farcry

Bart1987 · Apr 8, 2004, 05:26 PM

depends on the level. In bunker, my fps was about 20-60. And in open levels it was 15-30FPS. I don't lay on very high normally

.
I play at : texture quality: medium
Filter quality: trilinear.
Water: ultra high
the rest: high

And I get resonable fps

drakesteakn · Apr 8, 2004, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Feef
Chipset drivers are installed (nforce 3.13)
i dont have an option for AGP-Aperture size in my bios.
FSAA and AF are off.

when u first get to the BIOS hit ctrl+f1 and then go into i think advanced Bios settings and it should be at the bottom. if not it will be in another one. i can't remember exactly which one it is in.

WrathFox · Apr 8, 2004, 07:10 PM

what command do i use to see my fps on far cry ?

Deathryuu3 · Apr 8, 2004, 07:53 PM

I'm using a Gigabyte GA-7DXE motherboard and didn't know about this AGP aperature thing...anyway change it? I looked in 3dmark2001 se and it says aperature size is 64.....is that enough and if not how do i change it?(cant change it in bios)

Bart1987 · Apr 8, 2004, 09:01 PM

I don't know what command I used to see my FPS. I just put the lighting quality to medium. Becuase iwas getting to low fps some times fps of 25 and your weapon gets lezy with fps below 30 or 40. I think you should set you apperature size to 128M. But I'm not sure.

Deathryuu3 · Apr 8, 2004, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bart1987
I don't know what command I used to see my FPS. I just put the lighting quality to medium. Becuase iwas getting to low fps some times fps of 25 and your weapon gets lezy with fps below 30 or 40. I think you should set you apperature size to 128M. But I'm not sure.

is there any way to change your AGP aperature size even if your bios has no option for it?

Feef · Apr 8, 2004, 11:00 PM

enter the bios, hit CTRL+1 and then there are some "hidden features" available in some points.
i think it is only available on gigabyte boards.
drakesteakn has posted it, thx for the tip

Deathryuu3 · Apr 9, 2004, 12:40 AM

well i tried all 4 sizes(32, 64, 128 and 256) and ran 3dmark2001 se benchmarks after every test:

32=11,056
64= 11,034
128= 10,982
256= 11,089

basically theres almost no difference between all 4 sizes that i could tell...

p.s.: in the adv chipset features i noticed something called "AGP Always Compensate" which was "disabled"...what does this do??

FinalPhase · Apr 12, 2004, 10:28 PM

and i the aperture size is set to 128 by default . Far Cry works OKay not amzing on very high settings including AA and AF . take into account that Far Cry is a very Heavy game graphicly speaking. dont expect it to run smooth in 1600X1200 on those settings. i believe it will work properly if you disable or partially disable AA and AF .

Good Luck.

Apr 8, 2004, 12:12 PM	#1
Feef DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	Poor performance - 9800xt problem? Hi there! As you can see on the subject - my problem is that i have a poor performance in games. my sys: Gigabyte GA7NNXP, AMD XP3200+,1024mb ddr400 (dual), Saphire 9800xt, sblive 5.1 Example farcry: the fps are very low... 10-30, indoor levels a little bit more. i tried out different settings, but only if i set all to low it works fine. some friends of mine has the game too and they play this with high settings, but with more badly computers (9600, xp1800+,..) this is very annoying... example bf vietnam: same as farcry, poor fps, only if i set all settings to low, it works fine. actual omega drivers installed and i have done a clean re-install of the sys. its only 2 day old. has anyone some ideas? its really sad that i have a good system, but games are running better on my notebook with an ati mobility....

Apr 8, 2004, 12:44 PM	#2
tica DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: europe Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	try to disable second 9800xt device in control panel __________________ ga 7n400 ultra 2600@3200 barton viking 2x 512 400mhz ram 80gb maxtor 8mb cache sapphire 9800xt audigy 5.1 mx700 cat.4.10

Apr 8, 2004, 07:53 PM	#14
Deathryuu3 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 84 Rep Power: 0	I'm using a Gigabyte GA-7DXE motherboard and didn't know about this AGP aperature thing...anyway change it? I looked in 3dmark2001 se and it says aperature size is 64.....is that enough and if not how do i change it?(cant change it in bios) __________________ System Specs: Here Playlist: Here Last edited by Deathryuu3; Apr 8, 2004 at 08:16 PM.

Apr 9, 2004, 12:40 AM	#18
Deathryuu3 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 84 Rep Power: 0	well i tried all 4 sizes(32, 64, 128 and 256) and ran 3dmark2001 se benchmarks after every test: 32=11,056 64= 11,034 128= 10,982 256= 11,089 basically theres almost no difference between all 4 sizes that i could tell... p.s.: in the adv chipset features i noticed something called "AGP Always Compensate" which was "disabled"...what does this do?? __________________ System Specs: Here Playlist: Here

Apr 12, 2004, 10:28 PM	#19
FinalPhase DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	i have GB 9800xt and a GB motherboard and i the aperture size is set to 128 by default . Far Cry works OKay not amzing on very high settings including AA and AF . take into account that Far Cry is a very Heavy game graphicly speaking. dont expect it to run smooth in 1600X1200 on those settings. i believe it will work properly if you disable or partially disable AA and AF . Good Luck.

Apr 8, 2004, 01:36 PM	#4
Bart1987 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 634 Rep Power: 0	Have you installed the chipset drivers? Is your AGP apperature size at the right size? Do you have AA and AF forced on in the control panel?

Apr 8, 2004, 01:53 PM	Thread Starter #5
Feef DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	Chipset drivers are installed (nforce 3.13) i dont have an option for AGP-Aperture size in my bios. FSAA and AF are off.

Apr 8, 2004, 01:59 PM	#6
Bart1987 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 634 Rep Power: 0	Is everything (agp, directdraw and D3d) activated in directx. You can check with dxdiag (start>run>typ dxdiag>press "enter")

Apr 8, 2004, 02:07 PM	Thread Starter #7
Feef DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	Sure, all enabled. i hoped anyone got the same prob and solved it but every tip can be the solution for my problem, so thx

Apr 8, 2004, 03:04 PM	Thread Starter #8
Feef DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	I notied now that i have the same framerate at 800x600,1024x768,1280x1024 and 1600x1200. only the mouse seems to "lag" a little bit more the higher it gets

Apr 8, 2004, 03:16 PM	#9
Bart1987 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 634 Rep Power: 0	Wrathfox had problems with his card and with his FPS. he resolved it y installing the new catalyst. Perhaps you could try and install the catalyst 4.4 driver.

Apr 8, 2004, 04:47 PM	Thread Starter #10
Feef DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	i installed 4.4 now and it runs a little bit faster. 20-40 fps can anyone tell me the fps at 1024x768. all settings high (not very high) no fsaa or af? farcry

Apr 8, 2004, 05:26 PM	#11
Bart1987 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 634 Rep Power: 0	depends on the level. In bunker, my fps was about 20-60. And in open levels it was 15-30FPS. I don't lay on very high normally . I play at : texture quality: medium Filter quality: trilinear. Water: ultra high the rest: high And I get resonable fps

Apr 8, 2004, 07:10 PM	#13
WrathFox DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	what command do i use to see my fps on far cry ?

Apr 8, 2004, 09:01 PM	#15
Bart1987 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 634 Rep Power: 0	I don't know what command I used to see my FPS. I just put the lighting quality to medium. Becuase iwas getting to low fps some times fps of 25 and your weapon gets lezy with fps below 30 or 40. I think you should set you apperature size to 128M. But I'm not sure.

Apr 8, 2004, 11:00 PM	Thread Starter #17
Feef DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	enter the bios, hit CTRL+1 and then there are some "hidden features" available in some points. i think it is only available on gigabyte boards. drakesteakn has posted it, thx for the tip