What features will make me buy r420 over Nv40 ?

way16x · Apr 15, 2004, 04:05 AM

Hi every one, now that the NV40 is out and it is a BEAST, what features on the r420 will make you buy it over NV40?

Trueform 3???

Wei
Think free

The_Neon_Cowboy · Apr 15, 2004, 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by way16x
Hi every one, now that the NV40 is out and it is a BEAST, what features on the r420 will make you buy it over NV40?

Trueform 3???

Wei
Think free

dude if the leaked specs of r420 are true it will desicrate all......and PAWN all nvidiots

nvidia is on its way out nvidia on it way in ... that was long ago now it's an ati dominated market!

it's nice to see that nvida had laerd from ati by way of desighn and features in thier drivers refects that they've been playing fallow the leader (ATI)

you won't know the features of R420 till ati is ready for u to know... if there as advertised rumored justthe clock sppeds alone will blow NV's offering off the table and into the trash lol

and there is more then r420 under ati's cap as terry from ati said in his last interview something "big" comeing...

DriveEuro · Apr 15, 2004, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Neon_Cowboy
dude if the leaked specs of r420 are true it will desicrate all......and PAWN all nvidiots

so what's the term for ATI idiots? ATIdiots?

hehe, I just said it cuz it soooooooo made you seem a little too loyal to ATI.

Deathryuu3 · Apr 15, 2004, 04:36 AM

just wait n see hehe

nobody knows which card will truly be better than the other right now....just wait on buying a new card till ALL the new ones are out(or if you can, wait until after hl2 is out and plenty of good nv40/r420 benchmarks with hl2 are out) or you may regret your decision later

edit: btw DriverEuro, the 3dmark2001/2003 links in your sig are both broken(possibly because you didnt publish the 2 benchmarks)

way16x · Apr 15, 2004, 05:01 AM

From all the reviews I read on NV40 today I get the feeling that it is design to beat the R3x class, it doesn't give me the same feeling that the first Geforce give me. New Trueform tech would be so sweet.....

Rayder · Apr 15, 2004, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DriveEuro
so what's the term for ATI idiots? ATIdiots?

hehe, I just said it cuz it soooooooo made you seem a little too loyal to ATI.

For ATI, the term is fanATIcs.

pr0digal jenius · Apr 15, 2004, 10:00 PM

as to the original topic *cough cough*....clockspeed, driver support, OVERDRiVE capabilites, the pretty red PCB...what ISNT to like about the r420?

jsx[ifl] · Apr 15, 2004, 10:19 PM

As neon said if the specs are accurate of the R420, its going to be montrous

I can't wait to see the comparisons and the performance in games

dipstick · Apr 15, 2004, 10:34 PM

This one is a big plus for the 6800. I'm impressed.
http://www.pcper.com/comments.php?nid=145

Dom · Apr 15, 2004, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kakarot
This one is a big plus for the 6800. I'm impressed.
http://www.pcper.com/comments.php?nid=145

Me too.

Judas · Apr 16, 2004, 12:08 AM

PVR is gonna take you both down...

The_Neon_Cowboy · Apr 16, 2004, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Deathryuu3
just wait n see hehe nobody knows which card will truly be better than the other right now....just wait on buying a new card till ALL the new ones are out(or if you can, wait until after hl2 is out and plenty of good nv40/r420 benchmarks with hl2 are out) or you may regret your decision later

edit: btw DriverEuro, the 3dmark2001/2003 links in your sig are both broken(possibly because you didnt publish the 2 benchmarks)

Dude won't only be the cards there is some kick arse stuff comeing
but i can not tell u about it.... NDA la la la NDA la la la

Some nice kicks in the head comeing for nvidiots

and as terry said in his quotes I wondr how long before other companies copy ati's new stuff?

nvidias done alot of that....copying ati's ideas

Quote:

Originally posted by jsx[ifl]
As neon said if the specs are accurate of the R420, its going to be montrous
I can't wait to see the comparisons and the performance in games

yes but rumors are rumors we won't know till release day

Quote:

Originally posted by kakarot
This one is a big plus for the 6800. I'm impressed.
http://www.pcper.com/comments.php?nid=145

I'm not really 9800 still beats it in high res aa/af

Quote:

Originally posted by Judas
PVR is gonna take you both down...

PV what? lol

~~SJae~~ · Apr 16, 2004, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Neon_Cowboy
dude if the leaked specs of r420 are true it will desicrate all......and PAWN all nvidiots

nvidia is on its way out nvidia on it way in ... that was long ago now it's an ati dominated market!

it's nice to see that nvida had laerd from ati by way of desighn and features in thier drivers refects that they've been playing fallow the leader (ATI)

you won't know the features of R420 till ati is ready for u to know... if there as advertised rumored justthe clock sppeds alone will blow NV's offering off the table and into the trash lol

and there is more then r420 under ati's cap as terry from ati said in his last interview something "big" comeing...

Wow, you TRULY are a fan boy.

Judas · Apr 16, 2004, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Neon_Cowboy
PV what? lol

RebelWolf · Apr 16, 2004, 05:31 AM

No way to know, since all of the competition is unavailable at the moment.

Kudo's to Nvidia for fixing a lot of the problems on the NV30 series with the new NV40 series, but since we have not seen what the R420 from ATI is going to be like, it's impossible to know which will be better.

About the only thing you can be ASSURED of, is the new ATI board will have AT LEAST the IQ of the 9800XT, and be faster than the R360 series is. Anything beyond that, is pure speculation, unless your one of the privileged few with inside information.

When the time for me to upgrade rolls around, I'll use the same method I always have... First I'll decide on the budget, then attempt to build the fastest I can get for the dollars involved. Whether the specific parts come with a cute "Intel/AMD/ATI/Nvidia/SIS/Via" or any others companies logo on it, is of no real importance to me, since "I" don't have a vested interest in any of them.

This same theory holds true for me, on choice of OS, software, and whatever else you can think of that is computer related. I'll use whatever OS and software that I think will best suit my needs, I don't care if it comes from Redhat, Sun, Microsoft or Apple. All I care about is what it offers me, and how much using it will cost me. I've bought from Nvidia for years (3DFX before that) and I'm currently running a ATI board at the moment... It came down to who was offering the best product for the dollars I had decided to spend, which is the exact same method I'll use for any future purchases.

Fanboy's can buy whatever they wish... I'll buy whatever I think is best

RebelWolf

Vampyromaniac · Apr 16, 2004, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kakarot
This one is a big plus for the 6800. I'm impressed.
http://www.pcper.com/comments.php?nid=145

Another big plus is the programmable video processor included in the nv40.
It will be great if the R420 will have something like that, but a sizeable upset if it doesn't

tastyweat · Apr 17, 2004, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The_Neon_Cowboy
and there is more then r420 under ati's cap as terry from ati said in his last interview something "big" comeing...

something big coming... with reference to R420 or something new?

I wanna know! lol

zerodamage · Apr 17, 2004, 06:11 PM

Lets not call names here. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

I believe everyone should wait for a while. If you have a 9700 pro or above, wait until the fall. Wait until the mid range stuff comes out and the fall refresh makes a showing. I am thinking the 12 pipe card from ATI will make the best bang for the buck when the price starts to roll down to a tolerable level. I know that I would never pay 400+ for a video card. I always play a wait and see approach and never been wrong about that way of thinking yet. Nvidia's midrange parts may also be great performers, which I believe they will be. I think this summer will be exciting without a doubt.

And I would love to see PVR back in the game. If the Dreamcast from a few years ago is any sign of what PVR can do, than I my eyes are wide open.

Apr 15, 2004, 04:05 AM	#1
way16x DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boston Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	What features will make me buy r420 over Nv40 ? Hi every one, now that the NV40 is out and it is a BEAST, what features on the r420 will make you buy it over NV40? Trueform 3??? Wei Think free

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Deathryuu3 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 84 Rep Power: 0	just wait n see hehe nobody knows which card will truly be better than the other right now....just wait on buying a new card till ALL the new ones are out(or if you can, wait until after hl2 is out and plenty of good nv40/r420 benchmarks with hl2 are out) or you may regret your decision later edit: btw DriverEuro, the 3dmark2001/2003 links in your sig are both broken(possibly because you didnt publish the 2 benchmarks) __________________ System Specs: Here Playlist: Here

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dipstick HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,609 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	This one is a big plus for the 6800. I'm impressed. http://www.pcper.com/comments.php?nid=145 Last edited by dipstick; Apr 15, 2004 at 10:44 PM.

Apr 15, 2004, 05:01 AM	Thread Starter #5
way16x DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boston Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	From all the reviews I read on NV40 today I get the feeling that it is design to beat the R3x class, it doesn't give me the same feeling that the first Geforce give me. New Trueform tech would be so sweet.....

Apr 15, 2004, 10:00 PM	#7
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	as to the original topic cough cough....clockspeed, driver support, OVERDRiVE capabilites, the pretty red PCB...what ISNT to like about the r420?

Apr 16, 2004, 05:31 AM	#15
RebelWolf DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 55 Rep Power: 0	No way to know, since all of the competition is unavailable at the moment. Kudo's to Nvidia for fixing a lot of the problems on the NV30 series with the new NV40 series, but since we have not seen what the R420 from ATI is going to be like, it's impossible to know which will be better. About the only thing you can be ASSURED of, is the new ATI board will have AT LEAST the IQ of the 9800XT, and be faster than the R360 series is. Anything beyond that, is pure speculation, unless your one of the privileged few with inside information. When the time for me to upgrade rolls around, I'll use the same method I always have... First I'll decide on the budget, then attempt to build the fastest I can get for the dollars involved. Whether the specific parts come with a cute "Intel/AMD/ATI/Nvidia/SIS/Via" or any others companies logo on it, is of no real importance to me, since "I" don't have a vested interest in any of them. This same theory holds true for me, on choice of OS, software, and whatever else you can think of that is computer related. I'll use whatever OS and software that I think will best suit my needs, I don't care if it comes from Redhat, Sun, Microsoft or Apple. All I care about is what it offers me, and how much using it will cost me. I've bought from Nvidia for years (3DFX before that) and I'm currently running a ATI board at the moment... It came down to who was offering the best product for the dollars I had decided to spend, which is the exact same method I'll use for any future purchases. Fanboy's can buy whatever they wish... I'll buy whatever I think is best RebelWolf

Apr 17, 2004, 06:11 PM	#18
zerodamage HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 3,478 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Lets not call names here. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I believe everyone should wait for a while. If you have a 9700 pro or above, wait until the fall. Wait until the mid range stuff comes out and the fall refresh makes a showing. I am thinking the 12 pipe card from ATI will make the best bang for the buck when the price starts to roll down to a tolerable level. I know that I would never pay 400+ for a video card. I always play a wait and see approach and never been wrong about that way of thinking yet. Nvidia's midrange parts may also be great performers, which I believe they will be. I think this summer will be exciting without a doubt. And I would love to see PVR back in the game. If the Dreamcast from a few years ago is any sign of what PVR can do, than I my eyes are wide open.