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Old May 1, 2004, 01:53 AM   #1
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" Description
Ti RADEON X800 PRO 256MB DDR AGP8X TVO/DVI (Retail)
Built by ATi
12 parallel pixel pipelines
256-bit quad-channel GDDR3 memory Interface
8 extreme parallel pixel pipelines
6 parallel vertex processing engines


The ATI RADEON™ X800 PRO delivers frame rates that surpass any previous graphics processor making it the world’s most powerful VPU. With up to two times the performance of the acclaimed RADEON™ 9800 PRO, the RADEON™ X800 PRO provides an extremely smooth, responsive HD gaming experience, putting capable gamers in complete control of even the most demanding game titles. A radically new architecture based on the latest .13 micron, low-k manufacturing process with ultra fast and efficient GDDR3 memory combine to produce extreme data rates and unbelievable acceleration in a quiet, cool, single-slot solution.

BREAKTHROUGH IMAGE QUALITY
The RADEON™ X800 PRO defines a totally new High-Definition Gaming experience for the avid gamer by maximizing performance and image quality in higher detail and at higher resolutions than ever before. ATI‘s new and revolutionary 3Dc™ image enhancement technology brings characters to life and scenery to greater realism by enabling significant improvements to the image detail of character art with increased performance and lower memory usage. 3Dc™ is slated to become the industry standard to support more complex high-definition visual effects in real time.

ADVANCED 3D ARCHITECTURE
The RADEONTM X800 PRO features SMARTSHADER™ HD, the most advanced pixel
shader engine with 12 parallel pixel pipelines capable of an incredible 6 igapixels/second fill rate in full precision! With six programmable vertex shader pipelines, capable of up to 7000 million vertices per second and an overall capability of over 140 million floating point operations per second(Giga FLOPS), the RADEON™ X800 PRO delivers the most beautifully rendered high-definition 3D animation for the ultimate in intense, interactive game play.

CUTTING EDGE VIDEO TECHNOLOGY
The RADEON™ X800 PRO gives you more than just a great gaming experience. It also has sophisticated video processing, filtering and acceleration features that make multimedia applications more efficient, inspiring and fun. With VIDEOSHADER™ HD, the RADEON™ X800 PRO takes advantage of its advanced shader processing engine for user programmable video effects, video quality enhancement, and encoding and decoding of many video standards, including MPEG1/2/4, Real Media, DivX and WMV9. The RADEON™ X800 PRO also supports the latest high-definition and wide display formats, giving users bigger and more vivid movie, gaming and Internet experiences.

SMARTSHADER™ HD

Support for Microsoft® DirectX® 9.0 programmable vertex and pixel shaders
in hardware

Direct X 9.0 Vertex Shaders

Vertex programs up to 65,280 instructions with flow control

Single cycle trigonometric operations (SIN & COS)


Direct X 9.0 Extended Pixel Shaders

Up to 1,536 instructions and 16 textures per rendering pass

2nd generation F-buffer technology

accelerates multi-pass pixel shader programs with unlimited instructions

32 temporary and constant registers

Facing register for two-sided lighting

128-bit, 64-bit & 32-bit per pixel floating point color formats

Multiple Render Target (MRT) support


Complete feature set also supported in OpenGL® via extensions


SMOOTHVISION™ HD

3Dc™ - Normal map image compression technology resulting in high detail image quality

2x/4x/6x Anti-Aliasing modes

Sparse multi-sample algorithm with gamma correction, programmable sample patterns, and centroid sampling

Lossless Color Compression (up to 6:1)at all resolutions, including widescreen
HDTV resolutions

Temporal Anti-Aliasing

2x/4x/8x/16x Anisotropic Filtering modes

Up to 128-tap texture filtering

Adaptive algorithm with bilinear (performance) and trilinear (quality) option


3DC™

High quality 4:1 Normal Map Compression

Works with any two-channel data format


HYPER Z™ HD

3-level Hierarchical Z-Buffer with Early Z Test

Lossless Z-Buffer Compression (up to 48:1)

Fast Z-Buffer Clear

Z Cache optimized for real-time shadow rendering

Optimized for performance at high display resolutions, including widescreen
HDTV resolutions


VIDEOSHADER™ HD

Seamless integration of pixel shaders with video in real time

FULLSTREAM™ video de-blocking technology for Real, DivX, and WMV9
formats

VIDEOSOAP™ noise removal filtering for captured video

MPEG1/2/4 decode and encode acceleration

DXVA Support

Hardware Motion Compensation, iDCT, DCT and color space conversion


All-format DTV/HDTV decoding

YPrPb component output for direct drive of HDTV displays

Adaptive Per-Pixel De-Interlacing and Frame Rate Conversion (temporal
filtering)


Specifications



Controller ATi RADEON X800 PRO
Bus Type AGP 4X / 8X
Memory 256MB 256-bit GDDR3
RAMDAC Dual 400MHz
Monitors Supported Dual
Max Resolution 2048x1536 @ 85Hz
Connector (s) 15-pin VGA
DVI-I
S-Video Out

TV-Out Yes
Video-In No
Built-in TV Tuner No
Additional Information Windows Me/2000/XP
The above specifications are for reference only. Please contact the original manufacturer for the most updated specifications.

Warranty and Service



Warranty Length: 3 years
This item is returnable for repair/replace only. It can only be exchanged with the same item.
Service Contact: Allstarshop On-line RMA Request "

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Old May 1, 2004, 02:01 AM   #2
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So, did you order one?
Yeah, right after I pay my rent- wait, then I'll be broke again...

edit- maybe I'll win the contest for one...


Oh, and look at this quote:
"The ATI RADEON™ X800 PRO delivers frame rates that surpass any previous graphics processor making it the world’s most powerful VPU."


Bold statement- so I guess it must be faster than the 6800u

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im posting this on news
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Thanks for the credit BigBrown, but its' B W X 'W' in the middle...

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credit given also so dont worry bmx!
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$500 for the Pro? I thought the XT was going to be that price
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Isn't that sorta shady business practice there? I mean we don't even officially know what the card has for sure do we?

Perhaps its just a bit premature.
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"3Dc™ - Normal map image compression technology resulting in high detail image quality"
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What's 3Dc? or was that covered somewhere already? I must have missed it- buy there's the Temporal AA being advertised..

Also why the hell aren't they giving the clock speed? -and why isn't this the XT?
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Isn't that sorta shady business practice there? I mean we don't even officially know what the card has for sure do we?

Perhaps its just a bit premature.
it is as they said "The above specifications are for reference only. Please contact the original manufacturer for the most updated specifications."

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it is as they said subject to change lol refur to maker for accurate and updated specs lol
Yeah, I see nothing on ATi's site about it..
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Yeah, I see nothing on ATi's site about it..
look were they link to.....http://www.ati.com/products/radeon98...pro/index.html

for product link, 9800 pro, lol

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Who wants pay 500 bucks maybe that needs a 1000 power watt supply to run it lol
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12 parallel pixel pipelines
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wich is it ? 8 pipes or 12 pipes I don't get this I don't think they know


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Who wants pay 500 bucks maybe that needs a 1000 power watt supply to run it lol
nope that card only draws ony 80 watts my boy, has only one power connectior, acroding to what i read on another news post,if you can run 9800 pro you should be able to run this

unlike the 6800 power hog room heater.....needing what 480 or 580 watts lol
two connectors and still will be wasted by ati lol
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BE WARNED!!!

This is most likely a scam people. For one the NDA is still in place. For another the price seems a little off. Does this mean the XT will cost 600 Dollars? I highly doubt that.
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Yeah we know zero. Though it is kind of a spectacle.
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Notice the two top most comments on this page. You have to scroll down a little.

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I don't see how they can do this- It seems like when the date comes around, and they don't have the product to ship, they will have to give everyone back their money..

But maybe they will just be jerks and keep it, and make everyone take them to court to get it back, and when they do finally get the cards in stock, they'll ship the cards out.. of course by that time the cards will probably be on sale for a lot less...


Someone should call allstarshop and see what they say- probably a lot of "no more info at this time" BS.....
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I don't see how they can do this- It seems like when the date comes around, and they don't have the product to ship, they will have to give everyone back their money..

But maybe they will just be jerks and keep it, and make everyone take them to court to get it back, and when they do finally get the cards in stock, they'll ship the cards out.. of course by that time the cards will probably be on sale for a lot less...


Someone should call allstarshop and see what they say- probably a lot of "no more info at this time" BS.....
thats what i fugure when the price drops a couple hundred bucks those the pre orderd would have gottin bit big time
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If I pre-ordered one of those cards, I'd take a screenshot and save the page with the ad- And if I didn't get the card on time, or got a different card, I'd be calling the BBB.
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Oh, and look at this quote:
"The ATI RADEON™ X800 PRO delivers frame rates that surpass any previous graphics processor making it the world’s most powerful VPU."


Bold statement- so I guess it must be faster than the 6800u

your forgetting one, VERY important word though...

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"The ATI RADEON™ X800 PRO delivers frame rates that surpass any previous graphics processor making it the world’s most powerful VPU."
also, keep in mind that Nvidia calls their cores, GPUs not VPUs. see the word/fact bending there companys are so evil
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also, keep in mind that Nvidia calls their cores, GPUs not VPUs. see the word/fact bending there companys are so evil
Yeah I go that part when I read the ad-
But still after reading the ad I think they are full of something that doesn't smell very good.
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Yeah I go that part when I read the ad-
But still after reading the ad I think they are full of something that doesn't smell very good.
egg roles perhaps?

Why would anyone preorder anyways.. i mean.. Zero Benches/reviews have been published.... sometimes i wonder if peoples money think for themselves.. or if they are so loyal they would walk into a death trap if they were told to... However, i must state that there are those that do know and preorder (damn those with NDAS! )..... and those that CAN get one of everything (may get them just to try out... and can afford it.. or have no worries)...

Still... wouldn't mind having it on my lap!


EDIT: correction... not my lap.. in my machine!
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I don't think it's a scam. I actually live in the area where that shop is located--it's very close to Irvine, California and near South Coast Plaza. I bought a 9800NP from there last year.

As for the price, you gotta remember that when a new product comes out, it is ALWAYS overpriced.
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I don't think it's a scam. I actually live in the area where that shop is located--it's very close to Irvine, California and near South Coast Plaza. I bought a 9800NP from there last year.

As for the price, you gotta remember that when a new product comes out, it is ALWAYS overpriced.
Yeah but the problem I think is that it isn't even the fast (fastest) card- It doens't list the frequencies of the mem or the core- they could easily rip people off- I don't think the fastest card is going to be more than what they are asking for the slower card..
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guys without breaking my NDA I wouldnt take this posting too seriously - I certainly wouldnt preorder from there either, thats all Ill say.
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If you live in the U.S., then wait for Newegg to have these in stock and wait for reviews of the card. They are charging 500 knowing that people want it so bad that some will pay in advance when the card will most likely only cost 400 when it is officially available.
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guys without breaking my NDA I wouldnt take this posting too seriously - I certainly wouldnt preorder from there either, thats all Ill say.
I rather trust Zardon on that one.

It isn't many days left I think before we know for sure, I hope they have ps & vs 3.0 support.
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Zardon is like all those other guys under NDA. Cryptic.
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