ATi Overdrive Hack

Rasta Monsta · Jan 27, 2005, 06:36 PM

Surely by now someone has figured out how to hack "Overdrive" to increase maximum overclock. . .now that I have the Artic Cooling setup (AWESOME - will post more detail about that later), the "Overdrive Level" is always pinned, even under load, so I would like to crank it up a few notches.

TIA,

Rasta

Chaos · Jan 27, 2005, 06:51 PM

turn off overdrive and use a 3rd party tool to overclock

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jan 27, 2005, 08:10 PM

or buy an X850 and get to use overdrive3

Rasta Monsta · Jan 27, 2005, 09:08 PM

Sigh.

OK, I should have said, "I know I can use a 3d party tool to overclock, but the question is about Overdrive."

"Ok, let's see if we can get an answer. . ."

rasta

riles9262 · Jan 27, 2005, 10:01 PM

I have not heard anything about it yet.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jan 27, 2005, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rasta Monsta

Sigh.

OK, I should have said, "I know I can use a 3d party tool to overclock, but the question is about Overdrive."

"Ok, let's see if we can get an answer. . ."

rasta

You can't hack regular OverDrive its based on overdrive table values in your cards bios, the gpu temps and stuff in the drivers/CP...

You should buy an X850 and get to use overdrive3...
of couse there are some things I won't and can't tell you

*

from the DH X850 artical
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/...erclocking.htm

other wise it's 3rd part tools for you!

Rasta Monsta · Jan 28, 2005, 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Neon_Cowboy

of couse there are some things I won't and can't tell you

What the. . .

rasta

p.s. Oh yeah, and if this is based on data stored in BIOS, then it CAN be hacked, as BIOS values can be edited!

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jan 28, 2005, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rasta Monsta

What the. . .

rasta

p.s. Oh yeah, and if this is based on data stored in BIOS, then it CAN be hacked, as BIOS values can be edited!

( You got to love NDA's

)

Well no bios moder or tweaker to date has found any way to edit it

Nope it's based of values in the bios and in the CP / temps monitored by the Hotkey poller etc it's adjusted acording to temp...no one has figured out how to mess with it... your beating a dead dog.... move on...

Use 3rd party tools or buy an X850 so you can use over drive 3

Nicky-chan · Jan 28, 2005, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Neon_Cowboy

or buy an X850 and get to use overdrive3

Persistent are we on the get a x850... JK
*laughs*

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jan 28, 2005, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elclair

Persistent are we on the get a x850... JK
*laughs*

only way to get overdrive3*

Rasta Monsta · Jan 29, 2005, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Neon_Cowboy

your beating a dead dog.... move on...

Ah, shit, I thought this was a DISCUSSION board.

Please forgive me for engaging in DISCUSSION.

I will strive not to DISCUSS anything in the future.

rasta

Chaos · Jan 29, 2005, 03:10 AM

don't let neon get you down rasta monsta, I guess no one here has found a way to alter the settings. If you are brave dump a copy of your bios file and grab a hex editor and go for it. If you are successful let us know, I'm sure there are many that would like to know

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jan 29, 2005, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rasta Monsta

Ah, shit, I thought this was a DISCUSSION board.
Please forgive me for engaging in DISCUSSION.
I will strive not to DISCUSS anything in the future.

rasta

LOL

You forget I've went down this road thier is didly about it no ones came anywere close... With it being a year + later...

Figure that it's fixed... unless ATI desides to make OD3 for all XT cards insted of just the new X850's your just out of luck and forced to use 3rd party tools...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaos

don't let neon get you down rasta monsta, I guess no one here has found a way to alter the settings. If you are brave dump a copy of your bios file and grab a hex editor and go for it. If you are successful let us know, I'm sure there are many that would like to know

Just being a realist Bioses aren't things you just monkey with!

Edit a bios flash it in even with a proven editor / patcher can = messed up card. Even an unmodified bios can go wrong.... It's high risk and if all else fails some time loading in a backed up bios can fail but useally works. If it doesn't the mfg will absoultly know that you misflashed it and it's not coverd under warrenty. At that point you effectively have a $200-$500 paper wieght

As for ati's software, well can't legally decompile and edit it and I'd assume you'd have to edit both to work properly so it's a loose / loose ....

By all means he can try as he wishes it's his card it's his right but i'm
carefull as to the advice I give

many have looked into many have tried and failed. No ones don't it yet and id assume the gut that makes the rebit editor etc would the 1st to crack if it's ever done....

pr0digal jenius · Jan 29, 2005, 06:26 AM

Neon, if overdrive requires driver support, it must be listed somewhere in a DLL, meaning it CAN be edited. Whether or not you can find out where or how is a whole nother animal, however.

Might be a fun project, though

I may give it a go this week in between school and the ZP drivers.

Guns4Hire · Mar 2, 2005, 02:33 AM

Though I have an older card. Im wondering how you even get overdrive in your Cats driver windows. I have a Asus 9800XT and Ive never seen any of my Cats drivers display this. Now it is available for me to choose using Asus SmartDoctor so I know its working properly on my card. Just not sure how to get it in my Cats display. Any ideas?

Guns4Hire

MNDS · Mar 2, 2005, 03:47 AM

Id be curious if theres a way to enable it on other cards in general. I know my cards cooled well enough to use it, as it comes with a utility that can automatically oc the card and not void the warranty. I also know my card has a thermal probe onboard as ati tray tools reads the temp. hmmm...

Mike

Guns4Hire · Mar 2, 2005, 04:17 AM

I think it was available starting on the 9800XT but not sure when it became available in which driver. First Cats maybe?

Ive seen other 9800XT's that have the overdrive section in there display properties just not sure why mine doesnt. I vaguely remember something about it when I got the card. I just bought an X800XT PE so we will see if it shows up with the new card.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Mar 2, 2005, 06:23 AM

You guys want to use OD3? buy an X850XT or XT PE

You want to use OD? Well if you core supports it? a flash with a bios can do it. But it can also do in your card just as easy... best to buy a card with overdrive enabled in the 1st place

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guns4Hire

Though I have an older card. Im wondering how you even get overdrive in your Cats driver windows. I have a Asus 9800XT and Ive never seen any of my Cats drivers display this. Now it is available for me to choose using Asus SmartDoctor so I know its working properly on my card. Just not sure how to get it in my Cats display. Any ideas?

Guns4Hire

No becouse you have an asus card they disable overdrive via the bios. So that you card is compatable with smartdoctor... You could try useing a bios not intented for you card but it may leave you with a paper weight

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guns4Hire

I think it was available starting on the 9800XT but not sure when it became available in which driver. First Cats maybe?

Ive seen other 9800XT's that have the overdrive section in there display properties just not sure why mine doesnt. I vaguely remember something about it when I got the card. I just bought an X800XT PE so we will see if it shows up with the new card.

BTW:

forum rules state your siggy is limited to max 400 pixels wide by 100 tall, and a 100k size limit... your current siggy 354x124 ... and 131k Please fix it....

Quote:

Originally Posted by MNDS

Id be curious if theres a way to enable it on other cards in general. I know my cards cooled well enough to use it, as it comes with a utility that can automatically oc the card and not void the warranty. I also know my card has a thermal probe onboard as ati tray tools reads the temp. hmmm...

Mike

Where there is a will theres a way...

But you won't get the answer from me or anyone who may know or be able to find or figure it out. becouse they either can't or won't tell you....or give you any of the possably needed files/code .. well they could and enjoy the full rath of ati's lawiers but I don't see that happening...

MNDS · Mar 2, 2005, 06:18 PM

Seeing as ATi cancelled the x700xt wouldnt it be logical to just give it to x700 pro users ?

Jan 27, 2005, 06:51 PM	#2
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,269 Rep Power: 165 System Specs	turn off overdrive and use a 3rd party tool to overclock __________________

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The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	or buy an X850 and get to use overdrive3 __________________

Jan 27, 2005, 10:01 PM	#5
riles9262 Driverheaven brewmaster Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,842 Rep Power: 70 System Specs	I have not heard anything about it yet. __________________ A beer a day keeps the doctor away.

Jan 29, 2005, 03:10 AM	#12
Chaos Number Nine Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 5,269 Rep Power: 165 System Specs	don't let neon get you down rasta monsta, I guess no one here has found a way to alter the settings. If you are brave dump a copy of your bios file and grab a hex editor and go for it. If you are successful let us know, I'm sure there are many that would like to know __________________

Mar 2, 2005, 03:47 AM	#16
MNDS DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NY Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Id be curious if theres a way to enable it on other cards in general. I know my cards cooled well enough to use it, as it comes with a utility that can automatically oc the card and not void the warranty. I also know my card has a thermal probe onboard as ati tray tools reads the temp. hmmm... Mike __________________ Pentium D 830 2 x 512 Megs PC5400 Corsair XMS2 DDR2 Ram Biostar 945P Mobo eVGA PCI-Express 6800GT w/ NV5Silencer PCI SB X-Fi Xtreme Music

Jan 29, 2005, 06:26 AM	#14
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	Neon, if overdrive requires driver support, it must be listed somewhere in a DLL, meaning it CAN be edited. Whether or not you can find out where or how is a whole nother animal, however. Might be a fun project, though I may give it a go this week in between school and the ZP drivers.

Mar 2, 2005, 02:33 AM	#15
Guns4Hire DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Though I have an older card. Im wondering how you even get overdrive in your Cats driver windows. I have a Asus 9800XT and Ive never seen any of my Cats drivers display this. Now it is available for me to choose using Asus SmartDoctor so I know its working properly on my card. Just not sure how to get it in my Cats display. Any ideas? Guns4Hire

Mar 2, 2005, 04:17 AM	#17
Guns4Hire DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	I think it was available starting on the 9800XT but not sure when it became available in which driver. First Cats maybe? Ive seen other 9800XT's that have the overdrive section in there display properties just not sure why mine doesnt. I vaguely remember something about it when I got the card. I just bought an X800XT PE so we will see if it shows up with the new card. __________________

Mar 2, 2005, 06:18 PM	#19
MNDS DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NY Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Seeing as ATi cancelled the x700xt wouldnt it be logical to just give it to x700 pro users ? __________________ Pentium D 830 2 x 512 Megs PC5400 Corsair XMS2 DDR2 Ram Biostar 945P Mobo eVGA PCI-Express 6800GT w/ NV5Silencer PCI SB X-Fi Xtreme Music