problem with my pro 9800 , hi guys i am new

loates123 · Feb 15, 2005, 10:38 PM

hi all, looks a decent board.

right really need to get this sorted as i am on a online pes4 league on dvd forums, i know little about cards and no very very little about clocking cards etc...

here is my problem

i am having problems with my new connect 3d radeon 128 ati pro 9800, graphics does not seem much better than b4( 64mb hecules 3d prophet 4500 kyro 11 card), and now sometime it flickers only when playing games tho i only play pes4 online and off line............i advice as i need it to be right for playing pes4

i also have a artic fan

some times while playing pes4 the pitch graphics seems very poor only at times tho......

i have updated the driver from ati
so many settings i dont know what to change and not to change, advice welcome!!!!!tried but made them worse

even when i have got settings ok by turning refresh and rate down to 60hz , the screen still does flcik a little , its not smooth like i would like it

my system is , surly it cant be my computer

amd athlon xp 1500 +cpu

msi ms 6380le2 kt266a ddr sockrt a mother

have 512 ddr pc2100 memory just ordered other 512...

screen is a 3 year old hansol 705d 17ins

any ideas guys???

do i need to up grade somethink?

all advice would be fab!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In-Fluence · Feb 16, 2005, 09:36 PM

Try running driver cleaner in SAFE MODE, this may remove some conflicting drivers you had installed before, uninstall your current ATI drivers as well, then reboot in normal mode, and reinstall the drivers. If the arctic fan is on your GFX card, make sure it is screwed firmly onto the card, and there is not to little, or too much heat paste on your GPU (just a little blob to spread & cover the die's surface).

Logla · Feb 16, 2005, 10:10 PM

Drivercleaner can be found here

And welcome to DriverHeaven.

Sandok · Feb 16, 2005, 10:39 PM

Hmmmm ur CPU ain't extra great... Maybe that? What APG u running the card at?

loates123 · Feb 16, 2005, 11:27 PM

is cpu my processer if so do i need a new one...

agp what is this, i think because of the mother board it runs at 4x speed..

any more advice would be fab

loates123 · Apr 2, 2005, 03:14 PM

still having problems see pro 9800 problem on this page

jasonbourne · Apr 2, 2005, 05:35 PM

u really need to upgrade your cpu .cuz its holding back your cpu a bit.and make sure that u update everything on your system (bios ,chipset drivers,video drivers ,sound drivers,and see if u can get some updates on your windows as well .

loates123 · Apr 2, 2005, 07:21 PM

so if i upgrade my cpu what do i need.
i have done all the rest asked ..

what about changing gfx card if so what to

advice and a link would be fab to upgrade would be cool

Sandok · Apr 2, 2005, 07:42 PM

You would need a new mobo most probably... But before you think of this expensive upgrade, try to format ur PC or test the card in another PC to see what is really happening...

swimtech · Apr 2, 2005, 08:02 PM

Yes, I really think his system is fine for PES4 (Pro Evolution Soccer 4?) - his system exceeds even the recommended (well above minimum) hardware requirements.

loates123 - I believe you need to do a clean install of your video driver after cleaning out references to your old card. Check your new video driver installation by running a demo or full game locally (not online...) on your machine. If all is well locally, then take at look at connectivity issues that may affect online gameplay if you still see problems when you're playing online.

jasonbourne · Apr 2, 2005, 08:20 PM

i woulnt recommend nothing below a gforce 6600gt with all the new game coming out.and if u can get yourself a amd athlon 64 processor.

loates123 · Apr 2, 2005, 08:23 PM

thanks i deleted all the gfx drivers and installed then again also updated notherboard etc...

i still get the problem when playing the game offline..

also reformated the c drive.

never had the problem with my old graphics card is this card to powerfull for my pc

pro 9800

what do i do now i want to get it working but dont want to spend to much as everythink else is working ok........

all replys welcome

loates123 · Apr 2, 2005, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonbourne

i woulnt recommend nothing below a gforce 6600gt with all the new game coming out.and if u can get yourself a amd athlon 64 processor.

any link what to buy and where from would be fab...
if i get a new procesor do i need a new motherboard? basic advice on installing would also be great

Sandok · Apr 2, 2005, 08:27 PM

I just got an idea... It might be your PSU... HOw powerful is it? I used to get similar things with my older PC...

loates123 · Apr 2, 2005, 08:36 PM

300w

Sandok · Apr 2, 2005, 08:40 PM

That should be adaquate... Try your vid card in a whole other computer (the 9800pro) an d see if the bug still shows up... If not, then your PC has a bug which we'll figure out.. If the same prob in the other PC, it's possible ur card is a defect.

loates123 · Apr 2, 2005, 08:45 PM

got no other pc to test it on is there any other tests i could do

Sandok · Apr 2, 2005, 08:48 PM

Well try 3dmark03 and see if you still get that bug... Just google it

And try it at a friends if possible?

loates123 · Apr 2, 2005, 09:14 PM

just got 3d mark 05 just running test now is that ok to use

swimtech · Apr 2, 2005, 09:26 PM

It only happens in this one game - offline that is?

loates123 · Apr 2, 2005, 09:30 PM

yes it the only game i play
dvds and pictures are ok

will post back after i have finished this 3d test

loates123 · Apr 2, 2005, 10:07 PM

result 1953 is that bad in the games it was show they looked like they were lagging to me

Sandok · Apr 2, 2005, 10:17 PM

2000ish? I got a 9800 pro and that's low for your system. You should get almost 400 more points! Seems there is a prob in ur system...

loates123 · Apr 2, 2005, 10:23 PM

just ran it again

1948

gt1 return to proxcon 6.6fps
gt2 firefly forest 5.8 fps
gt3 canyon flight 12. fps

cpu tests cpu score 1409

cpu test1 0.7 fps
cpu test2 1.3 fps

any idea what is causing it as i want to fix it but wamt to sort it fast...

i emailed the person i got the card of here is his reply.
i got it from ebay

hi
nope card wasnt overclocked..i just added the artic cooler..
is it just one game?

only problem i had was running it at 8x agp on my board had to use 4x agp or is went to software mode...

i think if memory or core was going u would get tearing and small dots i believe...

try changing drivers ?
rgds
dave

or could it be my motherboard and 1.33 processor

p.s i am thankfull for the advice or here u all seem a lot more helpfull than other forums i have tried, with no results ............

FearTheTerp · Apr 3, 2005, 12:20 AM

I would try using the card on a friend's computer and see if the peformance is that bad, if it is, then you got a bad card but I doubt that's the case. I would upgrade the cpu.

Unless you want to get another Athlon XP, you would have to buy a new motherboard. It also depends if your motherboard supports higher end athlon xp's. For your motherboard, it's extremely old. It only supports agp 4x, doesn't support ddr 400, and doesn't support athlon xp's higher than the xp 2000+. So you would have to buy another cpu and motherboard. I would buy the parts at www.newegg.com. I don't think you can explain putting the computer together on the forums, it would take too damn long.

loates123 · Apr 3, 2005, 12:49 AM

[color=#0000ff]512MB—CT6464Z265[/color]
DDR PC2100
CL=2.5
NON-ECC

wonder what motherboard and processer etc i will need so its ok for my memory

[color=#0000ff][/color]

loates123 · Apr 3, 2005, 01:44 PM

anyone know want to sort it with the chepest way possible

loates123 · Apr 3, 2005, 06:38 PM

also the only drivers i dont have is for my v90 its in my pc just not installed will this matter

ReV smokey255 · Apr 3, 2005, 07:00 PM

its your psu

ReV smokey255 · Apr 3, 2005, 07:12 PM

get a better psu

Feb 15, 2005, 10:38 PM	#1
loates123 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	problem with my pro 9800 , hi guys i am new hi all, looks a decent board. right really need to get this sorted as i am on a online pes4 league on dvd forums, i know little about cards and no very very little about clocking cards etc... here is my problem i am having problems with my new connect 3d radeon 128 ati pro 9800, graphics does not seem much better than b4( 64mb hecules 3d prophet 4500 kyro 11 card), and now sometime it flickers only when playing games tho i only play pes4 online and off line............i advice as i need it to be right for playing pes4 i also have a artic fan some times while playing pes4 the pitch graphics seems very poor only at times tho...... i have updated the driver from ati so many settings i dont know what to change and not to change, advice welcome!!!!!tried but made them worse even when i have got settings ok by turning refresh and rate down to 60hz , the screen still does flcik a little , its not smooth like i would like it my system is , surly it cant be my computer amd athlon xp 1500 +cpu msi ms 6380le2 kt266a ddr sockrt a mother have 512 ddr pc2100 memory just ordered other 512... screen is a 3 year old hansol 705d 17ins any ideas guys??? do i need to up grade somethink? all advice would be fab!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Apr 2, 2005, 03:14 PM	Thread Starter #6
loates123 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	help still having problems see pro 9800 problem on this page

Apr 2, 2005, 05:35 PM	#7
jasonbourne DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: great yarmouth uk Posts: 1,082 Rep Power: 0	u really need to upgrade your cpu .cuz its holding back your cpu a bit.and make sure that u update everything on your system (bios ,chipset drivers,video drivers ,sound drivers,and see if u can get some updates on your windows as well . __________________ http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y28...asonBourne.jpg

Apr 2, 2005, 08:02 PM	#10
swimtech HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,040 Rep Power: 122 System Specs	Yes, I really think his system is fine for PES4 (Pro Evolution Soccer 4?) - his system exceeds even the recommended (well above minimum) hardware requirements. loates123 - I believe you need to do a clean install of your video driver after cleaning out references to your old card. Check your new video driver installation by running a demo or full game locally (not online...) on your machine. If all is well locally, then take at look at connectivity issues that may affect online gameplay if you still see problems when you're playing online. __________________ It's not so much getting your way that matters or not - what matters is how you go about getting it.

Apr 2, 2005, 08:20 PM	#11
jasonbourne DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: great yarmouth uk Posts: 1,082 Rep Power: 0	i woulnt recommend nothing below a gforce 6600gt with all the new game coming out.and if u can get yourself a amd athlon 64 processor. __________________ http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y28...asonBourne.jpg

Feb 16, 2005, 09:36 PM	#2
In-Fluence DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	Try running driver cleaner in SAFE MODE, this may remove some conflicting drivers you had installed before, uninstall your current ATI drivers as well, then reboot in normal mode, and reinstall the drivers. If the arctic fan is on your GFX card, make sure it is screwed firmly onto the card, and there is not to little, or too much heat paste on your GPU (just a little blob to spread & cover the die's surface).

Feb 16, 2005, 10:10 PM	#3
Logla HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,311 Rep Power: 62	Drivercleaner can be found here And welcome to DriverHeaven.

Feb 16, 2005, 10:39 PM	#4
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 66	Hmmmm ur CPU ain't extra great... Maybe that? What APG u running the card at?

Feb 16, 2005, 11:27 PM	Thread Starter #5
loates123 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	is cpu my processer if so do i need a new one... agp what is this, i think because of the mother board it runs at 4x speed.. any more advice would be fab

Apr 2, 2005, 07:21 PM	Thread Starter #8
loates123 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	so if i upgrade my cpu what do i need. i have done all the rest asked .. what about changing gfx card if so what to advice and a link would be fab to upgrade would be cool

Apr 2, 2005, 07:42 PM	#9
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 66	You would need a new mobo most probably... But before you think of this expensive upgrade, try to format ur PC or test the card in another PC to see what is really happening...

Apr 2, 2005, 08:23 PM	Thread Starter #12
loates123 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	thanks i deleted all the gfx drivers and installed then again also updated notherboard etc... i still get the problem when playing the game offline.. also reformated the c drive. never had the problem with my old graphics card is this card to powerfull for my pc pro 9800 what do i do now i want to get it working but dont want to spend to much as everythink else is working ok........ all replys welcome

Apr 2, 2005, 08:27 PM	#14
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 66	I just got an idea... It might be your PSU... HOw powerful is it? I used to get similar things with my older PC...

Apr 2, 2005, 08:36 PM	Thread Starter #15
loates123 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	300w

Apr 2, 2005, 08:40 PM	#16
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 66	That should be adaquate... Try your vid card in a whole other computer (the 9800pro) an d see if the bug still shows up... If not, then your PC has a bug which we'll figure out.. If the same prob in the other PC, it's possible ur card is a defect.

Apr 2, 2005, 08:45 PM	Thread Starter #17
loates123 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	got no other pc to test it on is there any other tests i could do

Apr 2, 2005, 08:48 PM	#18
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 66	Well try 3dmark03 and see if you still get that bug... Just google it And try it at a friends if possible?

Apr 2, 2005, 09:14 PM	Thread Starter #19
loates123 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	just got 3d mark 05 just running test now is that ok to use

Apr 2, 2005, 09:26 PM	#20
swimtech HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,040 Rep Power: 122 System Specs	It only happens in this one game - offline that is? __________________ It's not so much getting your way that matters or not - what matters is how you go about getting it.

Apr 2, 2005, 09:30 PM	Thread Starter #21
loates123 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	yes it the only game i play dvds and pictures are ok will post back after i have finished this 3d test

Apr 2, 2005, 10:07 PM	Thread Starter #22
loates123 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	result 1953 is that bad in the games it was show they looked like they were lagging to me

Apr 2, 2005, 10:17 PM	#23
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 66	2000ish? I got a 9800 pro and that's low for your system. You should get almost 400 more points! Seems there is a prob in ur system...

Apr 2, 2005, 10:23 PM	Thread Starter #24
loates123 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	just ran it again 1948 gt1 return to proxcon 6.6fps gt2 firefly forest 5.8 fps gt3 canyon flight 12. fps cpu tests cpu score 1409 cpu test1 0.7 fps cpu test2 1.3 fps any idea what is causing it as i want to fix it but wamt to sort it fast... i emailed the person i got the card of here is his reply. i got it from ebay hi nope card wasnt overclocked..i just added the artic cooler.. is it just one game? only problem i had was running it at 8x agp on my board had to use 4x agp or is went to software mode... i think if memory or core was going u would get tearing and small dots i believe... try changing drivers ? rgds dave or could it be my motherboard and 1.33 processor p.s i am thankfull for the advice or here u all seem a lot more helpfull than other forums i have tried, with no results ............

Apr 3, 2005, 12:20 AM	#25
FearTheTerp DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Pacific Grove, California Posts: 358 Rep Power: 0	I would try using the card on a friend's computer and see if the peformance is that bad, if it is, then you got a bad card but I doubt that's the case. I would upgrade the cpu. Unless you want to get another Athlon XP, you would have to buy a new motherboard. It also depends if your motherboard supports higher end athlon xp's. For your motherboard, it's extremely old. It only supports agp 4x, doesn't support ddr 400, and doesn't support athlon xp's higher than the xp 2000+. So you would have to buy another cpu and motherboard. I would buy the parts at www.newegg.com. I don't think you can explain putting the computer together on the forums, it would take too damn long. Last edited by FearTheTerp; Apr 3, 2005 at 12:27 AM.

Apr 3, 2005, 12:49 AM	Thread Starter #26
loates123 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	[color=#0000ff]512MB—CT6464Z265[/color] DDR PC2100 CL=2.5 NON-ECC wonder what motherboard and processer etc i will need so its ok for my memory [color=#0000ff][/color]

Apr 3, 2005, 01:44 PM	Thread Starter #27
loates123 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	anyone know want to sort it with the chepest way possible

Apr 3, 2005, 06:38 PM	Thread Starter #28
loates123 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	also the only drivers i dont have is for my v90 its in my pc just not installed will this matter

Apr 3, 2005, 07:00 PM	#29
ReV smokey255 John Kerry of video cards Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 574 Rep Power: 0	its your psu

Apr 3, 2005, 07:12 PM	#30
ReV smokey255 John Kerry of video cards Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 574 Rep Power: 0	get a better psu