Regarding D3D games.

saberj · Feb 28, 2005, 03:46 AM

Hello again

:

D3D=Direct 3D(just in case)

Whenever i play D3D games on my PC(R9600PRO) or on my girls PC(FX5500 *i know it's not good but the 9550 i bought couldn't run on it ;() i have experience this lag between the mouse and the computer.

E.G : i play an FPS D3D game, and i turn right, so i move my mouse to the right and it'll take like 0.5-1s before the computer responds and outputs the response to the monitor showing that i'm moving right IN the game...
i don't experience this on desktop..
but just in games....
any help?...
get's kinda irritating...
the only way i was able to fix this was capping the FPS to 30fps if i am able to...

I hope u guys understand what i'm trying to say...

Regards,
Saberj

redsolar · Feb 28, 2005, 03:25 PM

Which game in particular and which mouse? Check if you have mouse smoothing turned on, this can cause such behavior.

agenthex · Feb 28, 2005, 09:09 PM

It could be mouse smoothing, but if you're getting low FPS, turn down the AA, AF, and texture details as well as turning off vertical sync.

AA = Anti-aliasing
AF = Anisotropic Filtering

saberj · Mar 1, 2005, 06:46 AM

hmm..
there's no mouse smoothing in the control panel mouse options...
i'm using MS optical mouse..5 years old... don't know the model :P

wiskerbizkit · Mar 1, 2005, 01:01 PM

when i used nvidia they had an option of rendering ahead frames and that made major mouse lag for me, but that doesnt explain the radeon doing it

redsolar · Mar 1, 2005, 04:34 PM

You still have not said which game, online or offline?

agenthex · Mar 1, 2005, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiskerbizkit

when i used nvidia they had an option of rendering ahead frames and that made major mouse lag for me, but that doesnt explain the radeon doing it

I think you're referring to frame buffering. Usually they only buffer up to 3 frames ahead, so even at 60Hz, that would be 1/20th of a second.

Vikingod · Mar 1, 2005, 08:03 PM

I don't know much about this, but could it possibly be due to the priority of your USB, or somehting to that effect. I am probably way off base here, but just something for you guys to kick around.
Incidently, I had this problem one time with my old microsoft mouse, after updating the chipset to my mobo, the problem went away, you might want to give that a shot.

saberj · Mar 4, 2005, 03:30 AM

hm..
it's updated...

ANY D3D games...
no particular one...
games liek yeeger(sp?) star wars, UT(all),HL(in d3d mode),...etc...

agenthex · Mar 4, 2005, 02:57 PM

If you have any devices plugged into the USB ports other than your mouse, try unplugging them. If your mouse is PS/2, then I'm lost.

Feb 28, 2005, 03:46 AM	#1
saberj DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 61 Rep Power: 0	Regarding D3D games. Hello again : D3D=Direct 3D(just in case) Whenever i play D3D games on my PC(R9600PRO) or on my girls PC(FX5500 *i know it's not good but the 9550 i bought couldn't run on it ;() i have experience this lag between the mouse and the computer. E.G : i play an FPS D3D game, and i turn right, so i move my mouse to the right and it'll take like 0.5-1s before the computer responds and outputs the response to the monitor showing that i'm moving right IN the game... i don't experience this on desktop.. but just in games.... any help?... get's kinda irritating... the only way i was able to fix this was capping the FPS to 30fps if i am able to... I hope u guys understand what i'm trying to say... Regards, Saberj

Feb 28, 2005, 03:25 PM	#2
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Feb 28, 2005, 09:09 PM	#3
agenthex HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 66 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	It could be mouse smoothing, but if you're getting low FPS, turn down the AA, AF, and texture details as well as turning off vertical sync. AA = Anti-aliasing AF = Anisotropic Filtering __________________

Mar 1, 2005, 04:34 PM	#6
redsolar Off duty Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Las Vegas, USA Posts: 1,242 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	You still have not said which game, online or offline? __________________ Real_Men_Do_Not_Use_Space_Bar Main rig: Intel Core i7 930 @ 4.0 Ghz \| Corsair H50 Push/Pull \| 12GB OCZ DDR3 \| ASUS Radeon HD 5850 \| 3x 1TB Samsung F3 RAID5 on Dell PERC 5i SAS + 1TB Hitachi \| MSI X58 Pro-e \| 850W Antec Truepower Quattro \| RocketFish by Lian Li Full Tower Case \| Gateway XHD3000 30" LCD \| Dell 2408WFP 24" LCD \| Dell 2407WFP 24" LCD \| Logitech Z-5500 Speakers \| Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Laptop: Samsung x360-34P \| Core 2 Duo SU9400 1.4 GHz \| 4GB DDR3 \| 128GB Samsung SSD \| Intel 4500M w/ HDMI \| WiFi \| Bluetooth \| 13.3" WLED 1280x800 \| Windows 7 Professional x64

Mar 4, 2005, 02:57 PM	#10
agenthex HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 66 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	If you have any devices plugged into the USB ports other than your mouse, try unplugging them. If your mouse is PS/2, then I'm lost. __________________

Mar 1, 2005, 06:46 AM	Thread Starter #4
saberj DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 61 Rep Power: 0	hmm.. there's no mouse smoothing in the control panel mouse options... i'm using MS optical mouse..5 years old... don't know the model :P

Mar 1, 2005, 01:01 PM	#5
wiskerbizkit DH ***** hobo Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Columbia SC Posts: 467 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	when i used nvidia they had an option of rendering ahead frames and that made major mouse lag for me, but that doesnt explain the radeon doing it

Mar 1, 2005, 08:03 PM	#8
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,197 Rep Power: 111 System Specs	I don't know much about this, but could it possibly be due to the priority of your USB, or somehting to that effect. I am probably way off base here, but just something for you guys to kick around. Incidently, I had this problem one time with my old microsoft mouse, after updating the chipset to my mobo, the problem went away, you might want to give that a shot.

Mar 4, 2005, 03:30 AM	Thread Starter #9
saberj DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 61 Rep Power: 0	hm.. it's updated... ANY D3D games... no particular one... games liek yeeger(sp?) star wars, UT(all),HL(in d3d mode),...etc...