Bad crashing problem..

Fatality_ · Apr 16, 2005, 05:27 AM

I didnt find a good area to post this in, so ill post it here.

For a long time (started when i upgraded my Omegas :S) my computer has been crashing randomly in games. It goes like this: Screen goes blank and i hear popping from the headphones. Recently it also has started to make normal freezes; screen freezes and sound loops. My hardware:

A64 3200+
GB GA-K8NS Pro
1gig Kingston vram
X800 XT PE (put into the computer after the problem started, didnt help)
Nexus 400W (put into the computer after the problem started, didnt help)
Audigy2
W2KP SP4

BD11goal · Apr 16, 2005, 05:55 PM

i had the same problem. then i gave the DNA drivers a try and i haven't had that problem since. I didn't have that problem with the omega's until 5.1 i think, and these DNA's work just as well if not better in my opinion.

Fatality_ · Apr 16, 2005, 08:16 PM

oh yeah the comp has been formatted and the problem persisted

Fatality_ · Apr 16, 2005, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BD11goal

i had the same problem. then i gave the DNA drivers a try and i haven't had that problem since. I didn't have that problem with the omega's until 5.1 i think, and these DNA's work just as well if not better in my opinion.

wth your screen was going blank

ok ill try those DNAs

Fatality_ · Apr 16, 2005, 10:23 PM

crashed with DNAs..

the crashing happens only when in 3d games, so i think it must be a gfx card issue :/ maybe the mobo's agp is broken or something..

Shuflie · Apr 17, 2005, 12:28 AM

Are you running with 2 sticks of 512MB kingston valueram at 200MHz FSB? If you are try taking one of them out or drop your FSB to 166. I have a gigabyte K8VT800pro MB and was running with 2 512MB DDR400 modules of Kingston valueram, everytime I installed a new driver set for my X800pro the screen got corrupt at startup and the computer reset itself, the solution was to disable fastwrites. Replaced the 2x512 with 1x1GB DDR400 and everything seems rock solid now.

Fatality_ · Apr 17, 2005, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shuflie

Are you running with 2 sticks of 512MB kingston valueram at 200MHz FSB? If you are try taking one of them out or drop your FSB to 166. I have a gigabyte K8VT800pro MB and was running with 2 512MB DDR400 modules of Kingston valueram, everytime I installed a new driver set for my X800pro the screen got corrupt at startup and the computer reset itself, the solution was to disable fastwrites. Replaced the 2x512 with 1x1GB DDR400 and everything seems rock solid now.

yes i am.. ill try that

Tipstaff · Apr 17, 2005, 08:46 AM

Couple things to try:

Obvious things: Try enabling FastWrites. By default most of the modded drivers turn them off, but sometimes certain cards with certain motherboard combinations run more stable with FastWrites ON.

Try uninstalling SmartGART altogether using ATIs SmartGART Uninstaller. Again, most modded drivers don't install this service, so it may or may not make a difference.

Try rearranging the power cables connected to the card. See if you can get it to be either by itself on a power rail (cable), or at least be the first connector closest to the PSU on the rail, and not with critical devices such as hard drives & optical drives.

I can't think of anything else at the moment. Give those a shot, and let us know what happens.

-Tip

Fatality_ · Apr 17, 2005, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shuflie

Are you running with 2 sticks of 512MB kingston valueram at 200MHz FSB? If you are try taking one of them out or drop your FSB to 166. I have a gigabyte K8VT800pro MB and was running with 2 512MB DDR400 modules of Kingston valueram, everytime I installed a new driver set for my X800pro the screen got corrupt at startup and the computer reset itself, the solution was to disable fastwrites. Replaced the 2x512 with 1x1GB DDR400 and everything seems rock solid now.

THANK YOU!!! Made the computer rock solid!

Shuflie · Apr 17, 2005, 12:52 PM

Nice one, I think the problem comes from the onboard memory controller on the 754 Athlon64s. When you use two doublesided memory modules they offically only support DDR333, some other motherboard manufacturers have improved support for DDR400 in this configuration but Gigabyte seem to have problems.

Fatality_ · Apr 18, 2005, 07:50 PM

ARGHH!! CRASH!!!

2 days solid and crash! damn!

daedal · Apr 22, 2005, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fatality_

ARGHH!! CRASH!!!

2 days solid and crash! damn!

I've run into similar problems for a while and I jsut shelled out about 400$ for a new motherboard and RAM, but you probably don't want to walk down the same path.

First, run Memtest86 during the night and see what errors (if any) come up. If anything comes up then you know it's a RAM, controller or timing issue.

If nothing comes up, run 3DMark2005's video tests. If it locks up, it may be related to Video Card overheat. If it runs through it several times without any problems, run 3DMark's CPU tests and see if those lock up your PC.

Basically, you're trying to figure out what exactly is causing the problem. Also be sure to defrag, chkdsk and run virus scanners.

Apr 16, 2005, 05:27 AM	#1
Fatality_ DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 86 Rep Power: 0	Bad crashing problem.. I didnt find a good area to post this in, so ill post it here. For a long time (started when i upgraded my Omegas :S) my computer has been crashing randomly in games. It goes like this: Screen goes blank and i hear popping from the headphones. Recently it also has started to make normal freezes; screen freezes and sound loops. My hardware: A64 3200+ GB GA-K8NS Pro 1gig Kingston vram X800 XT PE (put into the computer after the problem started, didnt help) Nexus 400W (put into the computer after the problem started, didnt help) Audigy2 W2KP SP4 __________________ AMD64 3200+, 1024MB RAM, X800 XT PE

Apr 16, 2005, 08:16 PM	Thread Starter #3
Fatality_ DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 86 Rep Power: 0	oh yeah the comp has been formatted and the problem persisted __________________ AMD64 3200+, 1024MB RAM, X800 XT PE

Apr 16, 2005, 10:23 PM	Thread Starter #5
Fatality_ DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 86 Rep Power: 0	crashed with DNAs.. the crashing happens only when in 3d games, so i think it must be a gfx card issue :/ maybe the mobo's agp is broken or something.. __________________ AMD64 3200+, 1024MB RAM, X800 XT PE Last edited by Fatality_; Apr 16, 2005 at 10:29 PM.

Apr 17, 2005, 08:46 AM	#8
Tipstaff HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Real capital of Canada: Torauna Posts: 6,773 Rep Power: 190 System Specs	Couple things to try: Obvious things: Try enabling FastWrites. By default most of the modded drivers turn them off, but sometimes certain cards with certain motherboard combinations run more stable with FastWrites ON. Try uninstalling SmartGART altogether using ATIs SmartGART Uninstaller. Again, most modded drivers don't install this service, so it may or may not make a difference. Try rearranging the power cables connected to the card. See if you can get it to be either by itself on a power rail (cable), or at least be the first connector closest to the PSU on the rail, and not with critical devices such as hard drives & optical drives. I can't think of anything else at the moment. Give those a shot, and let us know what happens. -Tip __________________ Portal: The Flash Version _________________________________ Brain: So, you sacked the cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker? Mr. Sackett: The second cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker I've sacked since the sixth sitting sheet slitter got sick.

Apr 18, 2005, 07:50 PM	Thread Starter #11
Fatality_ DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 86 Rep Power: 0	ARGHH!! CRASH!!! 2 days solid and crash! damn! __________________ AMD64 3200+, 1024MB RAM, X800 XT PE

Apr 16, 2005, 05:55 PM	#2
BD11goal DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	i had the same problem. then i gave the DNA drivers a try and i haven't had that problem since. I didn't have that problem with the omega's until 5.1 i think, and these DNA's work just as well if not better in my opinion.

Apr 17, 2005, 12:28 AM	#6
Shuflie DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Belfast Posts: 269 Rep Power: 0	Are you running with 2 sticks of 512MB kingston valueram at 200MHz FSB? If you are try taking one of them out or drop your FSB to 166. I have a gigabyte K8VT800pro MB and was running with 2 512MB DDR400 modules of Kingston valueram, everytime I installed a new driver set for my X800pro the screen got corrupt at startup and the computer reset itself, the solution was to disable fastwrites. Replaced the 2x512 with 1x1GB DDR400 and everything seems rock solid now.

Apr 17, 2005, 12:52 PM	#10
Shuflie DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Belfast Posts: 269 Rep Power: 0	Nice one, I think the problem comes from the onboard memory controller on the 754 Athlon64s. When you use two doublesided memory modules they offically only support DDR333, some other motherboard manufacturers have improved support for DDR400 in this configuration but Gigabyte seem to have problems.