ATi bios flashing: the proper way.

Ballantin · Oct 25, 2005, 04:44 AM

First of all hello :P
Im starting to tink its not possible to flash my bios but i need to try it. Is an Ati Radeon IGP 345M. I also have some russian programs that promise to edit a bios image. Is a posible solution?

Thanks for all and sorry for my bad english.

cwolfx2 · Oct 28, 2005, 10:25 PM

Hey damage im a little new here but you think i can ask you some questions on Instant messenger>? I think im just way too overly careful when it comes to Bios flashing.. but instead of flooding this forum id like to ask you all of them directly if ok. Basically im trying to get my REFURBISHED ATI x800 pro (agp) to a ATI x800 XT (AGP). I have had problems finding a proper bios (first off no ati x800 xt (agp's) listed without the Platinum edition). And also some general questions to double check on. If not ill just post all of them here.. and follow your original guide religiously.. (and crossing all possible fingers).

I only post here (instead of pm) because if anyone else wants to add their 2 cents i welcome it. Just 2 general questions for now.. would my refurbished x800 pro (agp) card be able to convert to a x800 xt (agp) and if so where is the x800 xt agp bios (all i can find are x800 xt PE (agp) or the original x800 xt (pci-e) Would the card handle a Platinum edition xt bios?).

Dirnt27 · Jan 3, 2006, 06:43 AM

Hey thanks alot got my stock ati x850 core=500 mem=500 running with saphire x850xt bios core=540 mem= 590 real nice temps are not bad but I am going out this weekend and buying the a-bit fatality vga cooler so I can oc a little more lol.

Ðamage™ · Jan 21, 2006, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwolfx2

Hey damage im a little new here but you think i can ask you some questions on Instant messenger>? I think im just way too overly careful when it comes to Bios flashing.. but instead of flooding this forum id like to ask you all of them directly if ok. Basically im trying to get my REFURBISHED ATI x800 pro (agp) to a ATI x800 XT (AGP). I have had problems finding a proper bios (first off no ati x800 xt (agp's) listed without the Platinum edition). And also some general questions to double check on. If not ill just post all of them here.. and follow your original guide religiously.. (and crossing all possible fingers).

I only post here (instead of pm) because if anyone else wants to add their 2 cents i welcome it. Just 2 general questions for now.. would my refurbished x800 pro (agp) card be able to convert to a x800 xt (agp) and if so where is the x800 xt agp bios (all i can find are x800 xt PE (agp) or the original x800 xt (pci-e) Would the card handle a Platinum edition xt bios?).

Hey cwolfx2, Yes you should be able to flash that card into the x800xt, but like i've said before too anyone going to overclock. Make sure you download a overclocking program like Ati Tray Tools, or ATI Tool. Once you find the specs of the x800xt which range from quite a few from what I've seen, for example 520/560 or 500/500, then try overlocking these rates to see if your x800 Pro will reach these specs indicated from the rates I just showed you. If the card in question can make these specs and are stable for a long period of time it would be safe too assume that modding your bios to a x800xt would be more then likely accomplished. The best places for Ati Bios files are TechPowerUp! and Adrian's Rojak Pot. Also make sure when picking your new bios that it shares the same similarities to your memory, that being either Hynix, Samsung, etc, the best way to find that information is too look right onto the ram on your vga card and it will tell you.. like mine did which was "hynix 2.8". I hope this helped and if you need any more help, dont be shy and welcome to Driverheaven bro.

Peace, Ðamage™

junkyjorje · Jan 22, 2006, 09:05 PM

Hi, this thread is quite long already and there are a couple of unanswered questions in it, but ive been trying to fix my problem for a long time so i will just go ahead and ask...

Is there any way to modify the refresh rate of your vid card/monitor when it first boots up??? i hate it when my bios boots up and im getting 60hz. ive once seen a computer with a 75hz startup refresh rate and I liked that.
Ive found a program called radedit 1.1D which (im assuming, i havent tried it yet) lets one permanently change their refresh rates for 640X480, 800X600, 1024X768... but it doesnt have an option of changing refresh rate for 600X400 (which my comp boots up into). I had a look at my bin file in a hex editor after i changed the refresh rates, but i am totally lost in all of those hex numbers

.

Does anyone know what hex values to change to modify in the bin file that would correspond to an increase in default refreshrate? or even a link of where i could start looking??
btw, my vidcard specs are as follows: ATI radeon 9600 XT AIW in a chaintech VNF3-250 mobo. vid card memory is Samsung and im guessing its 3.3ns

Lelisevis · Jan 22, 2006, 10:01 PM

Is it worth flashing the bios on a X800XT and if so could anyone recommend a bios update. My memory is the faster rated Samsung 1.6ns and I have comfortable overclocking room.

Im guessing the only point to a bios flash is to set boot up clock rates rather than software overclocking, am I right?

Ðamage™ · Jan 23, 2006, 08:09 PM

Hey JunkyJorge, the answer to your question is simple. You need to go into your Catalyst Control Panel and set your refresh rate, the way to do this is to set your view of the CCC to advanced mode which will give you all the options you'll need to adjust this. So View tab > Advanced View, then you want to head down to Display Manager and adjust your refresh rate to whatever your heart desires, mine is set to 85 Hz which is optimal for most monitors. Then go to Display Options and set your 3D Refresh Rate Overide to 85 Hz, then reboot. Now some monitors still won't adjust to the specified rate unless you go to Monitor Properties and uncheck the EDID, you'll have to check your monitor specs but mine is set too 1600 X 1200 which is the max for my monitor, and then set your maximum refresh rate to your monitors, again mine is set too 120 Hz because that's the highest rate my monitor will do. This should solve your 60 Hz refresh rate problem and if you have any more questions just let me know. Oh one more thing.. if in games you're still getting 60 Hz then turn off your vertical sync in your 3D options.

Hey Lelisevis, your card is in no way in need of a bios flash unless there is a bin with better timings or has a higher core/memory clock. If you want to update your bios version to a newer one then go ahead, some report of overclocking higher and some report lower, it all depends on the bios and what the timings are. You can also create your own bios with an ati bios editor and set your own timings and such. Just make sure you backup your original bios before flashing, hope this answers your question and if not let me know.

Peace, Ðamage™

Lelisevis · Jan 24, 2006, 01:14 AM

Thanks for the advice Damage, you pretty much confirmed my theory. I'll just leave it as it is for now.

xtatik · Feb 9, 2006, 10:59 AM

Sorry, but I am a complete n00b when it come to graphics cards but after reading a WindowsXP mag, I saw it was possible to update a bios on the card.

The example it gave was that most 256mb editions of the 9800 cards are actually bigger and faster 9800XT's with a switch on it, turned down to act slower and dumber. Updating the bios will unlock it to its full potential.

Is this correct??? If so maybe you can help me with the next bit....

I just installed a Hercules 9800SE All-In-Wonder 128mb card into the computer at work (what better way to invalidate a 3 year warrenty after only a week), but obviously find on the latest games it runs very sluggish. Now, I know this card will have it's limits and anything I do won't make a vast difference but will updating the bios make the card any faster???

the big Firefly · Feb 9, 2006, 11:52 AM

this is the fist time i red this thread. i cant find the dios for my gigabyte ATI Radeon X700pro 128ddr3 128bit. can somebody help

pronator · Feb 11, 2006, 09:17 PM

i've been looking to flash my radeon 9550 256mb with a new bios but i can't figure out which one to use. it's running on default clocks 250/200 and it has samsung 5.0ns ram. i'm hoping to flash it to a 9600 of some sort with faster clocks. any help would be greatly appreciated

suhi-R · Feb 12, 2006, 11:44 PM

hi i need little help here

i have radeon sapphire 9600 128mb with mezza ram and would like to flash it to pro or xt if posible but i dont have the bios for it. can someone make it for me

Ðamage™ · Feb 15, 2006, 09:02 PM

Hey xtatik, big firefly, pronator, and suhi-r. You basically all have the same questions about getting a bios to flash for your card.. hopefully looking for a few fps gains or higher clock rates. The easiest way for me to help you is to talk via messenger, so if you're still looking for a certain bios or need help obtaining one then add me to your msn and i'll see what I can do for ya, until then.. new people to the forum, welcome to DH and for anyone else that has similar questions.. ill seeya around.

Peace, Ðamage™

Kaldar · Feb 16, 2006, 11:23 PM

is it possible to flash my x800xt and if so how much better would it be?

Ðamage™ · Feb 17, 2006, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaldar

is it possible to flash my x800xt and if so how much better would it be?

Hey Kaldar, just curious as too what if any overclocking you've done to the card and what speeds you're able to reach with the core and memory of your vga card, this will give me a better understanding of what your card is capabable of and if you haven't overclocked then I would suggest doing so, so we can see what kind of a yield we are going to get out of it before flashing.

Peace, Ðamage™

pronator · Feb 17, 2006, 09:22 AM

i'd like to say thanks, damage, for your help in finding me the 9600xt bios to flash my 9550. the new clocks @ 500/200 made the card unstable so that it would crash after 3 mins of running 3dmark05. no worries tho, i bumped the core down to 450 cuz i knew the gpu could run just fine at that speed. some benchmark results:

orig 9550 bios

3dmark01 - 8911
3dmark05 - 1246

tweaked 9600xt bios

3dmark01 - 10953
3dmark05 - 1700

i'm quite pleased at the results only until i save enough for a new x800xt

Ðamage™ · Feb 17, 2006, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pronator

i'd like to say thanks, damage, for your help in finding me the 9600xt bios to flash my 9550. the new clocks @ 500/200 made the card unstable so that it would crash after 3 mins of running 3dmark05. no worries tho, i bumped the core down to 450 cuz i knew the gpu could run just fine at that speed. some benchmark results:

orig 9550 bios

3dmark01 - 8911
3dmark05 - 1246

tweaked 9600xt bios

3dmark01 - 10953
3dmark05 - 1700

i'm quite pleased at the results only until i save enough for a new x800xt

Hey Pronator, I'm glad I could help and the 3d mark test looks impressive. Good work on the flash and if you have any other questions just let me know.

Peace, Ðamage™

Kaldar · Feb 17, 2006, 10:02 PM

damage, i havnt really done any overclocking yet, im trying to push it to its limits on stock cooling for now untill i get a better vga cooler,, right now im running at 524mhz core/memory.

SWNDakota · May 7, 2006, 03:33 AM

Damage,

I read you response to a question about a sapphire-radeon x800xl 512mb PCIe with VIVO earlier and was hoping you might be able to help me out too.

I have a refurbished card thats out of warranty and I'm not necessarily looking for a new bios, but I've got a strange stability problem. This is what happens.

I boot up my computer and I have no problems some of the time, but other times it hangs at the startup screen. sometimes I get into windows and it works until I open an application like internet explorer, click the start menu, or open "my computer". But here is the crazy part, If I launch a game like dungion siege before the graphics go goofy it will run the game at 60 fps on the highest setting and I can play for hours with no problems. but if I exit back into windows and open internet explorer it blue screens or streaks and I have to force power off.

Any Ideas?

I don't know if it has been o.c.'d, before... I haven't done anything to it.
The memory is 512 mb of samsung DDR3

If there are any other system incompatibilities my specs ar as follows:

Note: system was run for a week with an old legacy two Mb card and is increadibly stable.

Supermicro x6dal-xg
dual 64bit xeon 3.2ghz processors with 800 mhz fsb
a JGE 500 watt atx eps 12v powersupply
4 Gb interleaved 333 mhz ram

This got a bit long, Hopefully You can help me,

SWNDAkota

Ðamage™ · May 9, 2006, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SWNDakota

Damage,

I read you response to a question about a sapphire-radeon x800xl 512mb PCIe with VIVO earlier and was hoping you might be able to help me out too.

I have a refurbished card thats out of warranty and I'm not necessarily looking for a new bios, but I've got a strange stability problem. This is what happens.

I boot up my computer and I have no problems some of the time, but other times it hangs at the startup screen. sometimes I get into windows and it works until I open an application like internet explorer, click the start menu, or open "my computer". But here is the crazy part, If I launch a game like dungion siege before the graphics go goofy it will run the game at 60 fps on the highest setting and I can play for hours with no problems. but if I exit back into windows and open internet explorer it blue screens or streaks and I have to force power off.

Any Ideas?

I don't know if it has been o.c.'d, before... I haven't done anything to it.
The memory is 512 mb of samsung DDR3

If there are any other system incompatibilities my specs ar as follows:

Note: system was run for a week with an old legacy two Mb card and is increadibly stable.

Supermicro x6dal-xg
dual 64bit xeon 3.2ghz processors with 800 mhz fsb
a JGE 500 watt atx eps 12v powersupply
4 Gb interleaved 333 mhz ram

This got a bit long, Hopefully You can help me,

SWNDAkota

Hey SWNDAkota, I think I helped you out on messenger if I'm not mistaken, but if not.. I'd make sure too check your bios settings and take a look @ your AGP Aperture size and set it too 128 or 256 meg and see if that helps. Also make sure that your AGP Frequency is set too Auto or 66 Mhz. If you're still having problems or just have a question, then talk to me on messenger and we'll keep workin on tryin to fix it.

Peace and welcome to Driverheaven, Ðamage™

NeoKrieger · May 13, 2006, 06:38 AM

Quick question about the X800GTO -> X850XT PE mod over at techpowerup.com :
I checked in ATITool, and my card is moddable to 16pipes. In their walkthrough, they talk about using an unlocked Sapphire X800GTO2 or Connect3D X800 bios. Does it matter if mine is one of those actual cards or not? I've gotten mine to O/C to 480/530 but i want to use those xtra pipes! Any help would be appreciated.

Mazhule · May 22, 2006, 02:46 PM

i've recently to flashed my Sapphire ATI Radeon 9550 256mb with a new bios but it doesn't seem like it's actually improved the performance. It was flashed with ATIflash to Radeon 9600XT 256mb with Mezza memory. i'm hoping to see if it was some sort of mistake on my part as I followed your much appreciated guide to the tee. Any help would be really appreciated!

Ðamage™ · May 25, 2006, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeoKrieger

Quick question about the X800GTO -> X850XT PE mod over at techpowerup.com :
I checked in ATITool, and my card is moddable to 16pipes. In their walkthrough, they talk about using an unlocked Sapphire X800GTO2 or Connect3D X800 bios. Does it matter if mine is one of those actual cards or not? I've gotten mine to O/C to 480/530 but i want to use those xtra pipes! Any help would be appreciated.

Hey Neo, the main issue is with the core/memory, as long as you can reach those speeds with good stability and your card has no problems with the overclocking you're doing. Then I see no issue modding your card so that you have those 16 pipelines. Just make sure you read carefully and do the research on what memory is being used for the mod along with your corresponding memory and get flash happy. If you have any other questions just let me know and I'll help you with any further information.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mazhule

i've recently to flashed my Sapphire ATI Radeon 9550 256mb with a new bios but it doesn't seem like it's actually improved the performance. It was flashed with ATIflash to Radeon 9600XT 256mb with Mezza memory. i'm hoping to see if it was some sort of mistake on my part as I followed your much appreciated guide to the tee. Any help would be really appreciated!

Hey Mazhule, good to see another successful flash. When you flash your card with a modded bios or a different cards bios, you are not always going to get an explosive improvement or even a moderatly substantial one. Obviously with flashing your card to the 9600xt, your core and memory are going to be higher which in most cases will yield some fps improvement but there is never a 100% guarantee that things are going to be jaw dropping. I would count yourself lucky that the flash was error free and you still have a card to play with. Just a side note also, it's a rule of thumb to always double check the ram modules and make sure that the bios you're using to flash has the same memory on your specific vga card, because that can create some inconsistency and can become unstable at any time. You might not notice the difference right away, but you might go to turn your computer on one day and notice that you either can't boot up or you get distorted lines across your screen, among other wonderful things which would leave your ati card obsolete.

Peace & welcome to DH, Ðamage™

Kizmeist · Jan 10, 2007, 04:25 PM

Hey Damage, fair play to all the work youve done for everyone, i respect you dude, i want to be cheeky and ask you for some help too!

really struggling at the moment, my brain has gone to ****s

grifon_desonnac · Feb 6, 2007, 10:48 PM

hello ...

My video card ...is very bad ...she make many artefact ...

damage please help me to flash the bios

grifon_desonnac · Feb 7, 2007, 08:46 AM

i tested my motherboard P5CDC deluxe with 6600 and x550 video cards and y see no more artefact in game . i tested whit this video cards in 3dmark 03, 3dmark05, 3dmark06 and pcmark05 and was ok .my pc never crash whis video cards .

grifon_desonnac · Feb 7, 2007, 09:13 AM

i will bay ATI Silencer 1 (Rev. 2) for my eax600xt and see that i solved the problem whit this artefacts .
after that i want to find a proper bios for my x600xt .
Damage please can you help me in my quest ?

tank you sire
P.S
any sugestion for my problem will be apreciate
please tell me your opinion about Overclocking the EAX600XT and modify the bios at gpu/ram (600/400) . the ram is Hynix BGA DDR DRAM -2,2. default is 500/370
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.c...id=1687&page=2

forgive my bad english , i am a real analfabet for neau

i will try to learn english in the future

Ðamage™ · Mar 4, 2007, 07:07 PM

I would be more then happy to help you guys out with your flashes, installin msn as I type here. Talk to you soon, and for anyone else that is interested in flashing just let me know via msn or xfire: deanmeister

Talk to you soon, Ðamage™

NinjaTurtle · Oct 13, 2008, 03:13 AM

Hi there!

New guy here. I purchased a used ATI X850 XT AGP 2-slot for PC, not the single slot found as OEM on PowerMac G5s. The goal is to flash it with the equivalent Mac bios so that I can use it in my Mac G4 867MHz Quicksilver (2001). By the way, I already know that I have to cover up pins 3 and 11 in order for an 8x AGP card to work in my Apple 4x AGP slot.

I have not been able to locate a Mac version of the bios. My understanding is that the data format of the bios has to be big-endian so that it is compatible with PowerPC; Intel processors are little-endian.

Does anyone know where I can find a Mac version, or perhaps you know of a trustworthy utility that can convert a file to a different endianness?

If you need to know the exact GPU version and RAM type, then it will have to wait until I can get in the lab at work tomorrow so that I can replace the thermal compound.

I appreciate the assistance.

shinyo · Apr 27, 2009, 08:03 AM

only registered to say a big THANK YOU, this guide just saved me the €400 i would have to spend on a new graca.

perhaps one little addition, for people with multiple GPU (I had an 3870x2 card) use the commands :
a:\atiflash -p 0 biosmaster.bin
a:\atiflash -p 1 biosslave.bin

if you search a bit you'll find both files np

THANKS AGAIN !

edit : just adding a detailed description of my problem, to get some keywords in google for people having the same issue (if that's allowed? If not, remove!)

At first, nothing was wrong. I have 1 hard-disk with vista and one hard-disk with windows xp pro, i always used them seperately. 3 days ago i accidently booted up with both hard-drives attached, windows xp started up but freezed at the windows-logo (with the scrolling bar).... Then it all began => HOURS of searching.
- hard-drives seperatly wouldnt boot anymore (xp always stuck at the windowslogo with scrollingbar, vista stuck just after that point with a very general error on a bluescreen)
- ran memtest
- formatted both cards using : normal format (then reinstalled windows but same problem) and afterwards formatted with killdisk
- installed different operating systems, all with the same problem (xp, vista, win7)
- flashed my main processor bios to a newer and an older version, both no succes
- after some hours, i finally managed to get windows xp on it completely, installing motherboard drivers & xxx restarts were no problem at all, but from the point where i tried to install my graphic card drivers and rebooted my pc, i had the crash at the same point again...

This pointed me in the direction of a graphic card error (after hours of googling i accidently came accross a very old forum with someone having the same freezing-problem & saying it was his graphic card, but no solution was provided)
- i tried installing my graphic card in another pc, but same problem there (this was a SERIOUS hint towards a graphic card failure

)
- my pc ran perfectly with another graphic card
- was at the point of choosing a new graphic card to buy, but then thought 'hey why not try a graphic card bios flash' (yeh i dont know why i thought that

) but never found a decent enough place to explain a working way
- stumbled on here, first try and worked perfectly

(innitially only flashed 1 of the 2 gpu with the regular command though, did a driver uninstall & fresh -pa flash and running supersmooth now

)

THANKS AGAIN

Oct 28, 2005, 10:25 PM	#62
cwolfx2 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	x800 pro - x800 xt Hey damage im a little new here but you think i can ask you some questions on Instant messenger>? I think im just way too overly careful when it comes to Bios flashing.. but instead of flooding this forum id like to ask you all of them directly if ok. Basically im trying to get my REFURBISHED ATI x800 pro (agp) to a ATI x800 XT (AGP). I have had problems finding a proper bios (first off no ati x800 xt (agp's) listed without the Platinum edition). And also some general questions to double check on. If not ill just post all of them here.. and follow your original guide religiously.. (and crossing all possible fingers). I only post here (instead of pm) because if anyone else wants to add their 2 cents i welcome it. Just 2 general questions for now.. would my refurbished x800 pro (agp) card be able to convert to a x800 xt (agp) and if so where is the x800 xt agp bios (all i can find are x800 xt PE (agp) or the original x800 xt (pci-e) Would the card handle a Platinum edition xt bios?).

Jan 3, 2006, 06:43 AM	#63
Dirnt27 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Ty Hey thanks alot got my stock ati x850 core=500 mem=500 running with saphire x850xt bios core=540 mem= 590 real nice temps are not bad but I am going out this weekend and buying the a-bit fatality vga cooler so I can oc a little more lol.

Jan 22, 2006, 09:05 PM	#65
junkyjorje DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Modify Bootup Refresh Rate Hi, this thread is quite long already and there are a couple of unanswered questions in it, but ive been trying to fix my problem for a long time so i will just go ahead and ask... Is there any way to modify the refresh rate of your vid card/monitor when it first boots up??? i hate it when my bios boots up and im getting 60hz. ive once seen a computer with a 75hz startup refresh rate and I liked that. Ive found a program called radedit 1.1D which (im assuming, i havent tried it yet) lets one permanently change their refresh rates for 640X480, 800X600, 1024X768... but it doesnt have an option of changing refresh rate for 600X400 (which my comp boots up into). I had a look at my bin file in a hex editor after i changed the refresh rates, but i am totally lost in all of those hex numbers . Does anyone know what hex values to change to modify in the bin file that would correspond to an increase in default refreshrate? or even a link of where i could start looking?? btw, my vidcard specs are as follows: ATI radeon 9600 XT AIW in a chaintech VNF3-250 mobo. vid card memory is Samsung and im guessing its 3.3ns

Jan 23, 2006, 08:09 PM	Thread Starter #67
Ðamage™ DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 545 Rep Power: 0	Hey JunkyJorge, the answer to your question is simple. You need to go into your Catalyst Control Panel and set your refresh rate, the way to do this is to set your view of the CCC to advanced mode which will give you all the options you'll need to adjust this. So View tab > Advanced View, then you want to head down to Display Manager and adjust your refresh rate to whatever your heart desires, mine is set to 85 Hz which is optimal for most monitors. Then go to Display Options and set your 3D Refresh Rate Overide to 85 Hz, then reboot. Now some monitors still won't adjust to the specified rate unless you go to Monitor Properties and uncheck the EDID, you'll have to check your monitor specs but mine is set too 1600 X 1200 which is the max for my monitor, and then set your maximum refresh rate to your monitors, again mine is set too 120 Hz because that's the highest rate my monitor will do. This should solve your 60 Hz refresh rate problem and if you have any more questions just let me know. Oh one more thing.. if in games you're still getting 60 Hz then turn off your vertical sync in your 3D options. Hey Lelisevis, your card is in no way in need of a bios flash unless there is a bin with better timings or has a higher core/memory clock. If you want to update your bios version to a newer one then go ahead, some report of overclocking higher and some report lower, it all depends on the bios and what the timings are. You can also create your own bios with an ati bios editor and set your own timings and such. Just make sure you backup your original bios before flashing, hope this answers your question and if not let me know. Peace, Ðamage™ __________________ [COLOR=black][COLOR=red]ATi[/COLOR] Bios Flashing: The Proper Way.[/COLOR][COLOR=red][/COLOR] [COLOR=red]How to properly Install a VGA/CPU Cooler.[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]How to uninstall\install your ATi vga drivers properly[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]*It's not who we are, but what we do in life that defines us.*[/COLOR]

Feb 15, 2006, 09:02 PM	Thread Starter #73
Ðamage™ DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 545 Rep Power: 0	Hey xtatik, big firefly, pronator, and suhi-r. You basically all have the same questions about getting a bios to flash for your card.. hopefully looking for a few fps gains or higher clock rates. The easiest way for me to help you is to talk via messenger, so if you're still looking for a certain bios or need help obtaining one then add me to your msn and i'll see what I can do for ya, until then.. new people to the forum, welcome to DH and for anyone else that has similar questions.. ill seeya around. Peace, Ðamage™ __________________ [COLOR=black][COLOR=red]ATi[/COLOR] Bios Flashing: The Proper Way.[/COLOR][COLOR=red][/COLOR] [COLOR=red]How to properly Install a VGA/CPU Cooler.[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]How to uninstall\install your ATi vga drivers properly[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]*It's not who we are, but what we do in life that defines us.*[/COLOR]

Oct 25, 2005, 04:44 AM	#61
Ballantin DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	First of all hello :P Im starting to tink its not possible to flash my bios but i need to try it. Is an Ati Radeon IGP 345M. I also have some russian programs that promise to edit a bios image. Is a posible solution? Thanks for all and sorry for my bad english.

Jan 22, 2006, 10:01 PM	#66
Lelisevis Howlin at the moon Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,663 Rep Power: 0	Is it worth flashing the bios on a X800XT and if so could anyone recommend a bios update. My memory is the faster rated Samsung 1.6ns and I have comfortable overclocking room. Im guessing the only point to a bios flash is to set boot up clock rates rather than software overclocking, am I right?

Jan 24, 2006, 01:14 AM	#68
Lelisevis Howlin at the moon Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,663 Rep Power: 0	Thanks for the advice Damage, you pretty much confirmed my theory. I'll just leave it as it is for now.

Feb 9, 2006, 10:59 AM	#69
xtatik DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Sorry, but I am a complete n00b when it come to graphics cards but after reading a WindowsXP mag, I saw it was possible to update a bios on the card. The example it gave was that most 256mb editions of the 9800 cards are actually bigger and faster 9800XT's with a switch on it, turned down to act slower and dumber. Updating the bios will unlock it to its full potential. Is this correct??? If so maybe you can help me with the next bit.... I just installed a Hercules 9800SE All-In-Wonder 128mb card into the computer at work (what better way to invalidate a 3 year warrenty after only a week), but obviously find on the latest games it runs very sluggish. Now, I know this card will have it's limits and anything I do won't make a vast difference but will updating the bios make the card any faster???

Feb 9, 2006, 11:52 AM	#70
the big Firefly DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: south africa Posts: 946 Rep Power: 0	this is the fist time i red this thread. i cant find the dios for my gigabyte ATI Radeon X700pro 128ddr3 128bit. can somebody help

Feb 11, 2006, 09:17 PM	#71
pronator DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	i've been looking to flash my radeon 9550 256mb with a new bios but i can't figure out which one to use. it's running on default clocks 250/200 and it has samsung 5.0ns ram. i'm hoping to flash it to a 9600 of some sort with faster clocks. any help would be greatly appreciated

Feb 12, 2006, 11:44 PM	#72
suhi-R HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Slovenia Posts: 54 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	hi i need little help here i have radeon sapphire 9600 128mb with mezza ram and would like to flash it to pro or xt if posible but i dont have the bios for it. can someone make it for me

Feb 16, 2006, 11:23 PM	#74
Kaldar DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 213 Rep Power: 0	is it possible to flash my x800xt and if so how much better would it be? __________________ Operton 185 w/ Zalman CNPS9500 , Sapphire HD 4850, ABIT AT8, OC Z 700W PSU, Asus 16x DVD writer, 2GB Crucial pc3200 RAM, Xoxide X-Ventilator, WD800JDx2, MX500. 05 Mustang GT 5 Spd

Feb 17, 2006, 09:22 AM	#76
pronator DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	i'd like to say thanks, damage, for your help in finding me the 9600xt bios to flash my 9550. the new clocks @ 500/200 made the card unstable so that it would crash after 3 mins of running 3dmark05. no worries tho, i bumped the core down to 450 cuz i knew the gpu could run just fine at that speed. some benchmark results: orig 9550 bios 3dmark01 - 8911 3dmark05 - 1246 tweaked 9600xt bios 3dmark01 - 10953 3dmark05 - 1700 i'm quite pleased at the results only until i save enough for a new x800xt

Feb 17, 2006, 10:02 PM	#78
Kaldar DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 213 Rep Power: 0	damage, i havnt really done any overclocking yet, im trying to push it to its limits on stock cooling for now untill i get a better vga cooler,, right now im running at 524mhz core/memory. __________________ Operton 185 w/ Zalman CNPS9500 , Sapphire HD 4850, ABIT AT8, OC Z 700W PSU, Asus 16x DVD writer, 2GB Crucial pc3200 RAM, Xoxide X-Ventilator, WD800JDx2, MX500. 05 Mustang GT 5 Spd

May 7, 2006, 03:33 AM	#79
SWNDakota DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Damage, I read you response to a question about a sapphire-radeon x800xl 512mb PCIe with VIVO earlier and was hoping you might be able to help me out too. I have a refurbished card thats out of warranty and I'm not necessarily looking for a new bios, but I've got a strange stability problem. This is what happens. I boot up my computer and I have no problems some of the time, but other times it hangs at the startup screen. sometimes I get into windows and it works until I open an application like internet explorer, click the start menu, or open "my computer". But here is the crazy part, If I launch a game like dungion siege before the graphics go goofy it will run the game at 60 fps on the highest setting and I can play for hours with no problems. but if I exit back into windows and open internet explorer it blue screens or streaks and I have to force power off. Any Ideas? I don't know if it has been o.c.'d, before... I haven't done anything to it. The memory is 512 mb of samsung DDR3 If there are any other system incompatibilities my specs ar as follows: Note: system was run for a week with an old legacy two Mb card and is increadibly stable. Supermicro x6dal-xg dual 64bit xeon 3.2ghz processors with 800 mhz fsb a JGE 500 watt atx eps 12v powersupply 4 Gb interleaved 333 mhz ram This got a bit long, Hopefully You can help me, SWNDAkota

May 13, 2006, 06:38 AM	#81
NeoKrieger DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	Quick question about the X800GTO -> X850XT PE mod over at techpowerup.com : I checked in ATITool, and my card is moddable to 16pipes. In their walkthrough, they talk about using an unlocked Sapphire X800GTO2 or Connect3D X800 bios. Does it matter if mine is one of those actual cards or not? I've gotten mine to O/C to 480/530 but i want to use those xtra pipes! Any help would be appreciated.

May 22, 2006, 02:46 PM	#82
Mazhule DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	i've recently to flashed my Sapphire ATI Radeon 9550 256mb with a new bios but it doesn't seem like it's actually improved the performance. It was flashed with ATIflash to Radeon 9600XT 256mb with Mezza memory. i'm hoping to see if it was some sort of mistake on my part as I followed your much appreciated guide to the tee. Any help would be really appreciated!

Jan 10, 2007, 04:25 PM	#84
Kizmeist DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Hey Damage, fair play to all the work youve done for everyone, i respect you dude, i want to be cheeky and ask you for some help too! really struggling at the moment, my brain has gone to ****s

Feb 6, 2007, 10:48 PM	#85
grifon_desonnac DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	Eax600xt -pcie hello ... My video card ...is very bad ...she make many artefact ... damage please help me to flash the bios

Feb 7, 2007, 08:46 AM	#86
grifon_desonnac DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	Eax600xt i tested my motherboard P5CDC deluxe with 6600 and x550 video cards and y see no more artefact in game . i tested whit this video cards in 3dmark 03, 3dmark05, 3dmark06 and pcmark05 and was ok .my pc never crash whis video cards .

Feb 7, 2007, 09:13 AM	#87
grifon_desonnac DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	i will bay ATI Silencer 1 (Rev. 2) for my eax600xt and see that i solved the problem whit this artefacts . after that i want to find a proper bios for my x600xt . Damage please can you help me in my quest ? tank you sire P.S any sugestion for my problem will be apreciate please tell me your opinion about Overclocking the EAX600XT and modify the bios at gpu/ram (600/400) . the ram is Hynix BGA DDR DRAM -2,2. default is 500/370 http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.c...id=1687&page=2 forgive my bad english , i am a real analfabet for neau i will try to learn english in the future

Mar 4, 2007, 07:07 PM	Thread Starter #88
Ðamage™ DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 545 Rep Power: 0	I would be more then happy to help you guys out with your flashes, installin msn as I type here. Talk to you soon, and for anyone else that is interested in flashing just let me know via msn or xfire: deanmeister Talk to you soon, Ðamage™ __________________ [COLOR=black][COLOR=red]ATi[/COLOR] Bios Flashing: The Proper Way.[/COLOR][COLOR=red][/COLOR] [COLOR=red]How to properly Install a VGA/CPU Cooler.[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]How to uninstall\install your ATi vga drivers properly[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]*It's not who we are, but what we do in life that defines us.*[/COLOR]

Oct 13, 2008, 03:13 AM	#89
NinjaTurtle DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Re: ATi bios flashing: the proper way. Hi there! New guy here. I purchased a used ATI X850 XT AGP 2-slot for PC, not the single slot found as OEM on PowerMac G5s. The goal is to flash it with the equivalent Mac bios so that I can use it in my Mac G4 867MHz Quicksilver (2001). By the way, I already know that I have to cover up pins 3 and 11 in order for an 8x AGP card to work in my Apple 4x AGP slot. I have not been able to locate a Mac version of the bios. My understanding is that the data format of the bios has to be big-endian so that it is compatible with PowerPC; Intel processors are little-endian. Does anyone know where I can find a Mac version, or perhaps you know of a trustworthy utility that can convert a file to a different endianness? If you need to know the exact GPU version and RAM type, then it will have to wait until I can get in the lab at work tomorrow so that I can replace the thermal compound. I appreciate the assistance.

Apr 27, 2009, 08:03 AM	#90
shinyo DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Re: ATi bios flashing: the proper way. only registered to say a big THANK YOU, this guide just saved me the €400 i would have to spend on a new graca. perhaps one little addition, for people with multiple GPU (I had an 3870x2 card) use the commands : a:\atiflash -p 0 biosmaster.bin a:\atiflash -p 1 biosslave.bin if you search a bit you'll find both files np THANKS AGAIN ! edit : just adding a detailed description of my problem, to get some keywords in google for people having the same issue (if that's allowed? If not, remove!) At first, nothing was wrong. I have 1 hard-disk with vista and one hard-disk with windows xp pro, i always used them seperately. 3 days ago i accidently booted up with both hard-drives attached, windows xp started up but freezed at the windows-logo (with the scrolling bar).... Then it all began => HOURS of searching. - hard-drives seperatly wouldnt boot anymore (xp always stuck at the windowslogo with scrollingbar, vista stuck just after that point with a very general error on a bluescreen) - ran memtest - formatted both cards using : normal format (then reinstalled windows but same problem) and afterwards formatted with killdisk - installed different operating systems, all with the same problem (xp, vista, win7) - flashed my main processor bios to a newer and an older version, both no succes - after some hours, i finally managed to get windows xp on it completely, installing motherboard drivers & xxx restarts were no problem at all, but from the point where i tried to install my graphic card drivers and rebooted my pc, i had the crash at the same point again... This pointed me in the direction of a graphic card error (after hours of googling i accidently came accross a very old forum with someone having the same freezing-problem & saying it was his graphic card, but no solution was provided) - i tried installing my graphic card in another pc, but same problem there (this was a SERIOUS hint towards a graphic card failure ) - my pc ran perfectly with another graphic card - was at the point of choosing a new graphic card to buy, but then thought 'hey why not try a graphic card bios flash' (yeh i dont know why i thought that ) but never found a decent enough place to explain a working way - stumbled on here, first try and worked perfectly (innitially only flashed 1 of the 2 gpu with the regular command though, did a driver uninstall & fresh -pa flash and running supersmooth now ) THANKS AGAIN Last edited by shinyo; Apr 27, 2009 at 09:08 AM.