9800 Really Hot

Marlin · Jul 20, 2005, 06:01 AM

Hi, I don't know if this always happened or recently started but my video card is very hot after a while of play whether it be 30 minutes or an hour.

I heard it might be because of my fan, but I just installed an ATI silencer rev3 for my 9800PRO and it fans it fine, but it is really hot when I touch the card, really hot.

I can play Half-life 2, doom3, and other games all fine, just the heat of it.

Is it safe to keep on playing? How do I fix this, or is this normal.

It works fine..just hot to recap it.

Necrosis · Jul 20, 2005, 06:40 AM

Do you mean the actual PCB is hot to the touch? If so that is problem, and it sounds like to me you don't have the silencer seated very well.

Ðamage™ · Jul 20, 2005, 08:36 AM

Check to make sure that your fastwrites option in BIOS is turned off, this creates alot of heat in ATi cards other then the 9600 series. Also do what Necrosis said and make sure the vga cooler is seated properly because if it isn't, it will eventually fry your card. I'm not sure when you put the thermal paste on to your ATi chip when you intalled your vga cooler, but you might have put on too much or too little, this will also cause overheating. You want a nice super thin layer, and make sure you use something with a clean edge, like a credit card or library card.. and do not to scratch the surface.

Good Luck and keep us up to date.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jul 20, 2005, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ðamage™

Check to make sure that your fastwrites option in BIOS is turned off, this creates alot of heat in ATi cards other then the 9600 series. Also do what Necrosis said and make sure the vga cooler is seated properly because if it isn't, it will eventually fry your card. I'm not sure when you put the thermal paste on to your ATi chip when you intalled your vga cooler, but you might have put on too much or too little, this will also cause overheating. You want a nice super thin layer, and make sure you use something with a clean edge, like a credit card or library card.. and do not to scratch the surface.

Good Luck and keep us up to date.

Fastwrites does NOT change anything to do with heat on any card period. Its like saying turning anti aliasing off lowers temperatures...it won't.

I have tested this to back that up. Using the stock fan at 100%, I see 70 degrees under load with FW on or off.

BTW If its the back of the flipchip, with an AC it should be warm to the touch but not so hot it burns your finger. Make sure its getting full contact.

Ðamage™ · Jul 20, 2005, 07:08 PM

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Fast Writes: This setting, whether in the BIOS or in the Catalyst Control Panel/Control Center (See ATI Control Panel/ATI Control Center sections below), is meant to speed up AGP read performance. In practice however it is known in almost all cases to have no noticeable performance impact, and indeed often causes many problems such as crashes and general system instability, especially on overclocked graphics cards. My personal testing has shown it to have literally 0% impact on performance on several different setups. Therefore I strongly recommend disabling Fast Writes in the BIOS (if available) and also disabling it under SmartGart in the ATI Control Panel/ATI Control Center for optimal stability with little or no performance loss.

Please note that there are some cards (apparently some kinds of Radeon 9600s and possibly others) which have performance problems if you disable fast writes. If you find more than one combination of AGP multiplier and fast writes which is stable, then just run some benchmarks and pick the combination with the best performance.

This should answer some of your questions Marlin about fastwrites, and Hex if you put your card under any undue stress it can sometimes cause heat or instability issues, that's why Omega and most modded driver sets tell you to disable for stability especially when overclocking.. and just because you tested your system doesn't mean sqwat.. people have different setups and configurations and it could possibly be an issue.

Peace Marlin

p.s. Marlin buy some compressed air and blow out the fan of your card and do a general cleanup of the tower if you haven't done so already, this might help resolve your issue also.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jul 20, 2005, 07:14 PM

That doesn't do squat either. It doesn't say it has anything to do with configurations.

Do you even know what fastwrites ACTUALLY does?

It has nothing to do with anything except the way the card writes things to the AGP memory buffer.

Do your research.

Ðamage™ · Jul 20, 2005, 07:18 PM

Marlin I've also written a guide on the proper way to install your fan/heatsink for your GFX Card or your CPU, it's in my signature if your interested.

Hex your getting really annoying so please be quiet. You have a problem with me? then take it too the flamezone. Your so full of yourself hahah

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jul 20, 2005, 08:50 PM

@Marlin: Do you have anyway of quantitatively measuring the card's temperature? Like a thermal probe or something along the lines of that?

If you can find out what the actual temperature is you'd have a better idea of weather to worry or not. Dig: While a CPU is rated for 85 degrees C maximum before it burns out, a GPU can easily handle temperatures within 90 - 110 degrees, albeit shortening its lifespan by doing so.

So while it may be hotter than most other components, it might not warrant concern.

redsolar · Jul 20, 2005, 09:24 PM

9800 Pro cards run pretty hot, so it may be normal. How hot is "hot" in your case?

Jul 20, 2005, 06:01 AM	#1
Marlin DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	9800 Really Hot Hi, I don't know if this always happened or recently started but my video card is very hot after a while of play whether it be 30 minutes or an hour. I heard it might be because of my fan, but I just installed an ATI silencer rev3 for my 9800PRO and it fans it fine, but it is really hot when I touch the card, really hot. I can play Half-life 2, doom3, and other games all fine, just the heat of it. Is it safe to keep on playing? How do I fix this, or is this normal. It works fine..just hot to recap it.

Jul 20, 2005, 08:36 AM	#3
Ðamage™ DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 545 Rep Power: 0	Check to make sure that your fastwrites option in BIOS is turned off, this creates alot of heat in ATi cards other then the 9600 series. Also do what Necrosis said and make sure the vga cooler is seated properly because if it isn't, it will eventually fry your card. I'm not sure when you put the thermal paste on to your ATi chip when you intalled your vga cooler, but you might have put on too much or too little, this will also cause overheating. You want a nice super thin layer, and make sure you use something with a clean edge, like a credit card or library card.. and do not to scratch the surface. Good Luck and keep us up to date. __________________ [COLOR=black][COLOR=red]ATi[/COLOR] Bios Flashing: The Proper Way.[/COLOR][COLOR=red][/COLOR] [COLOR=red]How to properly Install a VGA/CPU Cooler.[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]How to uninstall\install your ATi vga drivers properly[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]*It's not who we are, but what we do in life that defines us.*[/COLOR]

Jul 20, 2005, 07:18 PM	#7
Ðamage™ DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 545 Rep Power: 0	Marlin I've also written a guide on the proper way to install your fan/heatsink for your GFX Card or your CPU, it's in my signature if your interested. Hex your getting really annoying so please be quiet. You have a problem with me? then take it too the flamezone. Your so full of yourself hahah __________________ [COLOR=black][COLOR=red]ATi[/COLOR] Bios Flashing: The Proper Way.[/COLOR][COLOR=red][/COLOR] [COLOR=red]How to properly Install a VGA/CPU Cooler.[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]How to uninstall\install your ATi vga drivers properly[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]*It's not who we are, but what we do in life that defines us.[/COLOR] Last edited by Ðamage™; Jul 20, 2005 at 07:58 PM.*

Jul 20, 2005, 09:24 PM	#9
redsolar Off duty Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Las Vegas, USA Posts: 1,242 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	9800 Pro cards run pretty hot, so it may be normal. How hot is "hot" in your case? __________________ Real_Men_Do_Not_Use_Space_Bar Main rig: Intel Core i7 930 @ 4.0 Ghz \| Corsair H50 Push/Pull \| 12GB OCZ DDR3 \| ASUS Radeon HD 5850 \| 3x 1TB Samsung F3 RAID5 on Dell PERC 5i SAS + 1TB Hitachi \| MSI X58 Pro-e \| 850W Antec Truepower Quattro \| RocketFish by Lian Li Full Tower Case \| Gateway XHD3000 30" LCD \| Dell 2408WFP 24" LCD \| Dell 2407WFP 24" LCD \| Logitech Z-5500 Speakers \| Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Laptop: Samsung x360-34P \| Core 2 Duo SU9400 1.4 GHz \| 4GB DDR3 \| 128GB Samsung SSD \| Intel 4500M w/ HDMI \| WiFi \| Bluetooth \| 13.3" WLED 1280x800 \| Windows 7 Professional x64

Jul 20, 2005, 06:40 AM	#2
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Do you mean the actual PCB is hot to the touch? If so that is problem, and it sounds like to me you don't have the silencer seated very well.

Jul 20, 2005, 07:14 PM	#6
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	That doesn't do squat either. It doesn't say it has anything to do with configurations. Do you even know what fastwrites ACTUALLY does? It has nothing to do with anything except the way the card writes things to the AGP memory buffer. Do your research.

Jul 20, 2005, 08:50 PM	#8
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	@Marlin: Do you have anyway of quantitatively measuring the card's temperature? Like a thermal probe or something along the lines of that? If you can find out what the actual temperature is you'd have a better idea of weather to worry or not. Dig: While a CPU is rated for 85 degrees C maximum before it burns out, a GPU can easily handle temperatures within 90 - 110 degrees, albeit shortening its lifespan by doing so. So while it may be hotter than most other components, it might not warrant concern.