X1900 XTX series a DUST-BUSTER...Is these true ??

~~Alien1~~ · Jan 29, 2006, 03:56 PM

Hello

I was going to buy a X1900XTX card soon until i heard rumors of the XTX fan beeing too noisy

Is these true as some people are saying around the forums...
I have already a wonderfull sound system and i do not want a Graphic card fan ruin that

Can someone (or more than one people) that already has one of these installed confirm these

Flexkill · Jan 29, 2006, 05:08 PM

well if your soundsysten is so good, you shouldn't hear the fan, right?!

Sandok · Jan 29, 2006, 05:18 PM

yes it IS very loud... strap on an aftermakret cooler!

drwho · Jan 29, 2006, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandok

yes it IS very loud... strap on an aftermakret cooler!

what aftermatket coolers are available, for those of us who are less knowledgable?

drwho

azrael13302473 · Jan 29, 2006, 05:26 PM

I have one and it is not that loud, my power supply fans are louder than it, and thats even when im playing a game. So im not sure maybe some cards are running hotter than others and have the fan running on higher rpm's

Customgamer1 · Jan 29, 2006, 06:27 PM

Maybe it's just me but I really don't care how loud the fan is?? When I get this card I will be shocked if it can beat my case fans LOL. I have 5 fans in my case and when they are turned up with my power supply it's like a jet flying in my room. I would guess a lot of us are like this to keep our cases cool???

Necrosis · Jan 29, 2006, 06:56 PM

Once you've had a quiet but powerful computer you'll never go back. I'm quite concerned myself since I'm also thinking of picking one up.

Sandok · Jan 29, 2006, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drwho

what aftermatket coolers are available, for those of us who are less knowledgable?

Arctic Cooling X2 SHOULD work (I've read it does) but tis not official. However, zalman ones (like this one here ) are very good and should work with any vid card

Quote:

Originally Posted by azrael13302473

I have one and it is not that loud, my power supply fans are louder than it, and thats even when im playing a game. So im not sure maybe some cards are running hotter than others and have the fan running on higher rpm's

It all depends on the case cooling... And I pity ur PSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by Customgamer1

Maybe it's just me but I really don't care how loud the fan is?? When I get this card I will be shocked if it can beat my case fans LOL. I have 5 fans in my case and when they are turned up with my power supply it's like a jet flying in my room. I would guess a lot of us are like this to keep our cases cool???

LOL not to that extreme mate... I hate loud PCs. It's useless and already I find mine too loud (and the loudest component is my HD

). I'm always at 50 max on load for CPU and 60 for GPU and it's quite quiet

Maybe some of us invested in larger more efficent and silent fans?

Customgamer1 · Jan 29, 2006, 07:24 PM

Silent fans LOL who uses those....

Maybe I should look into those.... That really never crossed my mind I just kept the fans that came with my case.

I just never really cared because the fans I use now I can turn down to go to sleep same with my power supply.

Sandok · Jan 29, 2006, 07:27 PM

Ya well like the new Antec P180... Not only is it silent but since cooling tech has become better, it's much better than the older cases with 50 fans

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jan 29, 2006, 08:23 PM

It look ike the SAME cooler that on the X1800 Xt it aprears so I highly doubt its
true probubly just some fanboys with a hair dryier makeing a sattire video

I mean I guess it could be true if some how you card was running hotter then
normal then it would say in a place thats normal room temp with normal air flow.
extreme over clocking what ever ...

I mean one guy right out of the box has his at like 800 / 900 mhz of course
it going to kick the fan speed up. Also in the video if you notice 3dmark06 is fluid
so thier probubly overclocking...

Sandok · Jan 29, 2006, 08:30 PM

It's still louder than most because a leafblower fan is NOT silent by standard...

Customgamer1 · Jan 29, 2006, 11:52 PM

Well Sandok I will work on getting my system silent but I will not care if peer power is making a lot of noise

I rather have a fast system than something that's not as good with little noise!

g35x · Jan 30, 2006, 12:08 AM

i dotn care about videocard fan sounds nothing can possibly be louder than my thermaltake venus 12 =D but i dont mind noise lol

Customgamer1 · Jan 30, 2006, 01:02 AM

See g35x you see what I mean!!! Nothing can out beat some of the stuff we have in our cases. I would like to go water cooled but don't know how to do it and don't want to take the risk! But if I ever did that would make it silent.

g35x · Jan 30, 2006, 12:23 PM

HELL no i wouldent take that risk lmao my comp would leak after the 1st day

Necrosis · Jan 30, 2006, 07:03 PM

That is why you test the water cooling system outside your computer for 48 hours.

g35x · Jan 30, 2006, 11:06 PM

id get a leak the second i put it in lmao

Retarp · Jan 30, 2006, 11:45 PM

1.) Water cooling is good, especially when the pump is silent.

2.) that Zalman sink is great, I have one on my X800XL and I can barely hear the fan run. Just get the all copper one, don't chince on the aluminum version. Get this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835118117

Dark Lord · Jan 31, 2006, 12:04 AM

ya, my venus 12 is pretty loud if i crank it all the way up. instead, i keep it around 2000rpms. between my venus 12 and 7 case fans, it can get pretty loud.

of course it really doesnt matter, i cant hear it over my speakers. cranked up, i cant hear much at all over my speakers.

g35x · Jan 31, 2006, 12:42 AM

i keep my venus 12 cranked up all the time =D

Leekay07 · Jan 31, 2006, 01:03 AM

I have my system water cooled. And I have a moded X18 on my 1900XT and it runs awesome. 735x1750 and doesn't break 50 degrees C

Jodiuh · Feb 2, 2006, 11:42 AM

Yes, it's loud. But it's extremely effective. Just stick your hand down the rear of the case

FWIW, my vf700-cu wouldn't fit on the X1900XT cause of the shim. It kept slidin' around. Also, that acelero blows the air directly on your mobo. Supposeably we'll be getting a new Zalman vf900-cu with heatpipes. I just hope it has a raised core area like the stock fan. I dont' wanna remove my shimmmmy!!!!

dsdsdk · Feb 2, 2006, 12:46 PM

"Once you've had a quiet but powerful computer you'll never go back" <- so true!

Zalman VF700 wont do the job of cooling a X1900.. The cooler has to be better than the stockcooler to be quieter.. The vf700 isnt better than ATI's stock dual slot cooler. But it's better that the 7800GTX stock, which is why it cools better and is quieter..

i spoke with a reviewer from hardware-test.dk about x1900 in CF, he said they were louder than a tubine-jetengine.

7800gtx "burns" 94watt.
X1900xtx does 120watt. <-- 27% more!!

H3X4D3C1M4L · Feb 2, 2006, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsdsdk

"Once you've had a quiet but powerful computer you'll never go back" <- so true!

Zalman VF700 wont do the job of cooling a X1900.. The cooler has to be better than the stockcooler to be quieter.. The vf700 isnt better than ATI's stock dual slot cooler. But it's better that the 7800GTX stock, which is why it cools better and is quieter..

I went back to a loud PC after a relatively quiet and good performing one so its not always true

Re: VF700, you'd have to see results to say its not good enough. They work well enough to drop temperatures on an X850XTPE which is the same design as the X1900XTX cooler. Its just the card pushes out more heat.

I think it'd work well enough at 100% and even n 100% my VF700 is quiet

PurpleMonkey · Feb 2, 2006, 11:15 PM

Ive just got 2 X1900XT's in my crossfire setup & i dont think there that noisy even when playing games, my pc's in my bedroom & i sleep real well eveynight.

If you have a totally silent system you may hear them but they aint loud.

Jodiuh · Feb 5, 2006, 06:56 AM

This looks like a good thread for this info...

Well this one fit. Not perfect, a small amount of wiggle room. But the contact was def there when I removed the heatsink.

Here's my results...

-default clocks on X1900XT
-1 run through 06
-ambient 22c

Biggest difference here's the 11c jump on the Zalman. Perhaps once the AS5 settles it might go down a few c, but it's still a huge spike in temps. Especially considering this was done with stock volts and clocks.

BUTT...and this is a big one. I can think again. The stock fan was GOD awful loud. We're back to the chipset fan being the loudest component again.

It's only been on the Zalman for an hour, but I'll take the higher temps (resulting clock-block) over that ridiculous mouse being chopped up in my case!

dipstick · Feb 5, 2006, 06:11 PM

Yes, the X1x00 series card are very noisy and by far the loudest thing in my PC. One is aggravating and two are just unbearable imo. Of course everyone is different and what is loud to me is just a whisper to another

Sandok · Feb 5, 2006, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Customgamer1

Well Sandok I will work on getting my system silent but I will not care if peer power is making a lot of noise

I rather have a fast system than something that's not as good with little noise!

Well you see, my system is faster than urs and g35x's but it's quiter... Trust me, I want speed and I want silence and both are possible...

The venus from thermaltake doesn't have any heatpipes for example and mine has 4 which means I can run the fan at 2000RPM and benifit from a silent Heatsink and the same temps as you

Honestly, my CPU never goes over 50 and my GPU never over 60 (in summer). And hell, they are powerful components (OCed P4 3GHZ) and X850XT PE...

ihatelinflas · Feb 5, 2006, 07:39 PM

I have the x1900XTX from sapphire, I am happy with this card other than having to run the 5.13 Cat drivers, and I cannot use a 64 bit OS as no driver I have found would load on the 64 Bit OS.

As to cooling, I have been water cooling for a couple of years and with good parts leaking has never been a concern, I use both passive and active cooling in my setup now.

Zalman Reservator for passive cooling and reservoir
250 Gallon per Hour pond pump for flow
Black Ice micro with 2X80mm Fans for active cooling
Zalman Block for Cpu/Chipset
Thermaltake Block for Gpu

Pics here http://members.cox.net/linflas/

System specs:
Asus A8N-E Mobo
AMD X2 4400 OC'd @2.6gHz Prime95 Torture tested x 24 hours
Corsair XMS twinx 2048-3200 @ 238mhz
Sapphire X1900XTX with Cat 5.13 standard clocks for now until better driver support
Soundblaster Audigy 2ZS Gamer
Raid0 2X74gB WD Raptor 10000 rpm drives
WD 300 GB ATA storage
Seagate SATA 200GB storage
Samsung Syncmaster 242mp Display

Jan 29, 2006, 03:56 PM	#1
~~Alien1~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 365 Rep Power: 0	X1900 XTX series a DUST-BUSTER...Is these true ?? Hello I was going to buy a X1900XTX card soon until i heard rumors of the XTX fan beeing too noisy Is these true as some people are saying around the forums... I have already a wonderfull sound system and i do not want a Graphic card fan ruin that Can someone (or more than one people) that already has one of these installed confirm these

Jan 29, 2006, 05:08 PM	#2
Flexkill DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Nashville, TN. Music City USA Posts: 285 Rep Power: 0	well if your soundsysten is so good, you shouldn't hear the fan, right?! __________________

Jan 29, 2006, 05:26 PM	#5
azrael13302473 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 76 Rep Power: 0	I have one and it is not that loud, my power supply fans are louder than it, and thats even when im playing a game. So im not sure maybe some cards are running hotter than others and have the fan running on higher rpm's __________________ DFI LanParty UT RDX200 \|\| AMD64 X2 3800+ @ 2.8Ghz \|\| 2GB Mushkin XP4000 @2-3-2-5 \|\| Audigy X-fi Fatality \|\| X1900 Crossfire \|\| 650W BFG PSU \|\| 4 x 320GB Seagate 16MB cache, 2 x 120GB Western Digital 8MB cache \|\| Westinghouse 37" LVM-37W3 \|\| Logitech Z-5500

Jan 29, 2006, 06:27 PM	#6
Customgamer1 Fell off the tech wagon Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,273 Rep Power: 74 System Specs	Maybe it's just me but I really don't care how loud the fan is?? When I get this card I will be shocked if it can beat my case fans LOL. I have 5 fans in my case and when they are turned up with my power supply it's like a jet flying in my room. I would guess a lot of us are like this to keep our cases cool??? __________________ Asus Laptop: 2.5 Intel Core 2 Duo, 4gigs DDR 2, Windows 7 64bit! Windows 7 > OSX!

Jan 29, 2006, 07:24 PM	#9
Customgamer1 Fell off the tech wagon Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,273 Rep Power: 74 System Specs	Silent fans LOL who uses those.... Maybe I should look into those.... That really never crossed my mind I just kept the fans that came with my case. I just never really cared because the fans I use now I can turn down to go to sleep same with my power supply. __________________ Asus Laptop: 2.5 Intel Core 2 Duo, 4gigs DDR 2, Windows 7 64bit! Windows 7 > OSX!

Jan 29, 2006, 05:18 PM	#3
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	yes it IS very loud... strap on an aftermakret cooler!

Jan 29, 2006, 06:56 PM	#7
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Once you've had a quiet but powerful computer you'll never go back. I'm quite concerned myself since I'm also thinking of picking one up.

Jan 29, 2006, 07:27 PM	#10
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	Ya well like the new Antec P180... Not only is it silent but since cooling tech has become better, it's much better than the older cases with 50 fans

Jan 29, 2006, 08:23 PM	#11
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	It look ike the SAME cooler that on the X1800 Xt it aprears so I highly doubt its true probubly just some fanboys with a hair dryier makeing a sattire video I mean I guess it could be true if some how you card was running hotter then normal then it would say in a place thats normal room temp with normal air flow. extreme over clocking what ever ... I mean one guy right out of the box has his at like 800 / 900 mhz of course it going to kick the fan speed up. Also in the video if you notice 3dmark06 is fluid so thier probubly overclocking... __________________ Last edited by The_Neon_Cowboy; Mar 11, 2006 at 07:24 PM.

Jan 29, 2006, 08:30 PM	#12
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 0	It's still louder than most because a leafblower fan is NOT silent by standard...

Jan 29, 2006, 11:52 PM	#13
Customgamer1 Fell off the tech wagon Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,273 Rep Power: 74 System Specs	Well Sandok I will work on getting my system silent but I will not care if peer power is making a lot of noise I rather have a fast system than something that's not as good with little noise! __________________ Asus Laptop: 2.5 Intel Core 2 Duo, 4gigs DDR 2, Windows 7 64bit! Windows 7 > OSX!

Jan 30, 2006, 12:08 AM	#14
g35x Hellhound Pilot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Deptford, New Jersey Posts: 1,100 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	i dotn care about videocard fan sounds nothing can possibly be louder than my thermaltake venus 12 =D but i dont mind noise lol __________________

Jan 30, 2006, 01:02 AM	#15
Customgamer1 Fell off the tech wagon Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,273 Rep Power: 74 System Specs	See g35x you see what I mean!!! Nothing can out beat some of the stuff we have in our cases. I would like to go water cooled but don't know how to do it and don't want to take the risk! But if I ever did that would make it silent. __________________ Asus Laptop: 2.5 Intel Core 2 Duo, 4gigs DDR 2, Windows 7 64bit! Windows 7 > OSX!

Jan 30, 2006, 12:23 PM	#16
g35x Hellhound Pilot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Deptford, New Jersey Posts: 1,100 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	HELL no i wouldent take that risk lmao my comp would leak after the 1st day __________________

Jan 30, 2006, 07:03 PM	#17
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	That is why you test the water cooling system outside your computer for 48 hours.

Jan 31, 2006, 01:03 AM	#22
Leekay07 DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 180 Rep Power: 0	I have my system water cooled. And I have a moded X18 on my 1900XT and it runs awesome. 735x1750 and doesn't break 50 degrees C __________________ [COLOR=black]Cooler Master Stacker Case, 600Watt OCZ Powerstream PSU,Asus P5W DH Deluxe WiFi Ed. Bios 1042, Intel E6700 Core 2 Duo, X1950XTX + Crossfire, Plextor 755 DVD/RW (sata)[/COLOR] [COLOR=black]320GB Seagate Drive, 2x 150GB WD Raptors, Liteon DVD/RW, Mitsumi Floppy with card reader, Creative X-Fi Soundcard Xtreme Gamer, Asus Silent Square CPU Cooler, Realtek 3 port USB card, 2x1GB Geil 1Ghz 4-4-4-5[/COLOR]

Jan 30, 2006, 11:06 PM	#18
g35x Hellhound Pilot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Deptford, New Jersey Posts: 1,100 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	id get a leak the second i put it in lmao __________________

Jan 30, 2006, 11:45 PM	#19
Retarp DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 119 Rep Power: 0	1.) Water cooling is good, especially when the pump is silent. 2.) that Zalman sink is great, I have one on my X800XL and I can barely hear the fan run. Just get the all copper one, don't chince on the aluminum version. Get this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835118117

Jan 31, 2006, 12:04 AM	#20
Dark Lord HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,945 Rep Power: 125 System Specs	ya, my venus 12 is pretty loud if i crank it all the way up. instead, i keep it around 2000rpms. between my venus 12 and 7 case fans, it can get pretty loud. of course it really doesnt matter, i cant hear it over my speakers. cranked up, i cant hear much at all over my speakers. __________________

Jan 31, 2006, 12:42 AM	#21
g35x Hellhound Pilot Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Deptford, New Jersey Posts: 1,100 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	i keep my venus 12 cranked up all the time =D __________________

Feb 2, 2006, 11:42 AM	#23
Jodiuh DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 49 Rep Power: 0	Yes, it's loud. But it's extremely effective. Just stick your hand down the rear of the case FWIW, my vf700-cu wouldn't fit on the X1900XT cause of the shim. It kept slidin' around. Also, that acelero blows the air directly on your mobo. Supposeably we'll be getting a new Zalman vf900-cu with heatpipes. I just hope it has a raised core area like the stock fan. I dont' wanna remove my shimmmmy!!!!

Feb 2, 2006, 12:46 PM	#24
dsdsdk DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Denmark, CPH. Posts: 586 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	"Once you've had a quiet but powerful computer you'll never go back" <- so true! Zalman VF700 wont do the job of cooling a X1900.. The cooler has to be better than the stockcooler to be quieter.. The vf700 isnt better than ATI's stock dual slot cooler. But it's better that the 7800GTX stock, which is why it cools better and is quieter.. i spoke with a reviewer from hardware-test.dk about x1900 in CF, he said they were louder than a tubine-jetengine. 7800gtx "burns" 94watt. X1900xtx does 120watt. <-- 27% more!! __________________ No more Kitty!

Feb 2, 2006, 11:15 PM	#26
PurpleMonkey DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	Ive just got 2 X1900XT's in my crossfire setup & i dont think there that noisy even when playing games, my pc's in my bedroom & i sleep real well eveynight. If you have a totally silent system you may hear them but they aint loud.

Feb 5, 2006, 06:56 AM	#27
Jodiuh DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 49 Rep Power: 0	This looks like a good thread for this info... Well this one fit. Not perfect, a small amount of wiggle room. But the contact was def there when I removed the heatsink. Here's my results... -default clocks on X1900XT -1 run through 06 -ambient 22c Biggest difference here's the 11c jump on the Zalman. Perhaps once the AS5 settles it might go down a few c, but it's still a huge spike in temps. Especially considering this was done with stock volts and clocks. BUTT...and this is a big one. I can think again. The stock fan was GOD awful loud. We're back to the chipset fan being the loudest component again. It's only been on the Zalman for an hour, but I'll take the higher temps (resulting clock-block) over that ridiculous mouse being chopped up in my case!

Feb 5, 2006, 06:11 PM	#28
dipstick HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,609 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	Yes, the X1x00 series card are very noisy and by far the loudest thing in my PC. One is aggravating and two are just unbearable imo. Of course everyone is different and what is loud to me is just a whisper to another

Feb 5, 2006, 07:39 PM	#30
ihatelinflas DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	I have the x1900XTX from sapphire, I am happy with this card other than having to run the 5.13 Cat drivers, and I cannot use a 64 bit OS as no driver I have found would load on the 64 Bit OS. As to cooling, I have been water cooling for a couple of years and with good parts leaking has never been a concern, I use both passive and active cooling in my setup now. Zalman Reservator for passive cooling and reservoir 250 Gallon per Hour pond pump for flow Black Ice micro with 2X80mm Fans for active cooling Zalman Block for Cpu/Chipset Thermaltake Block for Gpu Pics here http://members.cox.net/linflas/ System specs: Asus A8N-E Mobo AMD X2 4400 OC'd @2.6gHz Prime95 Torture tested x 24 hours Corsair XMS twinx 2048-3200 @ 238mhz Sapphire X1900XTX with Cat 5.13 standard clocks for now until better driver support Soundblaster Audigy 2ZS Gamer Raid0 2X74gB WD Raptor 10000 rpm drives WD 300 GB ATA storage Seagate SATA 200GB storage Samsung Syncmaster 242mp Display Last edited by ihatelinflas; Feb 5, 2006 at 08:02 PM. Reason: system specs