Memory leak?

blix9 · Feb 13, 2003, 01:58 AM

Hello guys.

What is memory leak and how do I check it?

My system seems rather slow considering its horse power.(AthlonXP1800, GeForce4400, nForce1 MB)

Thanks.

DriveEuro · Feb 13, 2003, 03:04 AM

The biggest thing that will tell you if you have a memory think, and what is leaking it, is your OS. What are you running? XP? 98? ME?

blix9 · Feb 13, 2003, 04:03 AM

WinXP Pro.

here is my rig:

-AMD XP 1800 with TI-V77L HSF
-Abit NV7-133R(latest C3 BIOS)
-512 meg, 2 x 256 Xtreme DDR(single-sided)
-Leadtek Ti 4400 128MB
-Maxtor 60gig ATA133
-Pioneer DVD 16x S106(slot loadong)
-Win XP pro
-nothing overclocked
-Antec 1030B case (with Antec TruPower 480W PSU)

DriveEuro · Feb 13, 2003, 04:09 AM

I doubt you have a memory leak. Why would you think that you would have a memory leak anyways?

blix9 · Feb 13, 2003, 04:35 AM

I do not really know anything about memory leak. Somebody told me the other day that if my system does not perform well as it should I should suspect memory leak(?)

As you can see in my spec I have Ti4400.
I know that a single benchmark test would not tell the overall performance of a system but I got about 800 with the new 3DMark 2003.
I found that most of people with Ti4200 128MB and same CPU as mine got over 1000 with no overclocking. Some of them even have less than 512MB system memory.
It was same situation with the old version of 3DMark SE. What I am saying is this is consistant lacking in performance.

In time, I started to think my machine is not as fast as it should be. Also, occasionally, my screen redraws the desktop and when it does that I can see the slow redrawing process of icons. Same thing happens when I open a new window or when I move my mouse over 'Start' --> 'Program'. I can see it redraws all the iocons in my program list. This happens quite often, well, all the time nowadays. I don't even load up many programs when I boot up.

Of course, I don't really know this has anything to do with 'memory leak'

Can you explain me what's is causing these symptoms?

Thanks

DriveEuro · Feb 13, 2003, 05:01 AM

Dude, what are your system specs? That score is ridiculous. I'm gettin almost 1800 with my Ti4200 (hella overclocked).

blix9 · Feb 13, 2003, 04:09 PM

here is my rig:

-AMD XP 1800 with TI-V77L HSF
-Abit NV7-133R(latest C3 BIOS)
-512 meg, 2 x 256 Xtreme DDR(single-sided)
-Leadtek Ti 4400 128MB (42.86 driver)
-Maxtor 60gig ATA133
-Pioneer DVD 16x S106(slot loadong)
-Samsung CDRW 48X24X48
-Win XP pro
-nothing overclocked
-Antec 1030B case (with Antec TruPower 480W PSU)

DriveEuro · Feb 13, 2003, 05:03 PM

Dude, if you are running XP Pro, then I would not worry about a memory leak. Unless you have some funky ass programs open that are accessing the net 24/7.

blix9 · Feb 14, 2003, 02:19 AM

Thanks for your input, Euro.

Then, what seems to be the cause of the symptoms I mentioned in earlier post? I don't think I have any funky program that access internet 24/7. I have Norton Anti-virus installed the other day and it's got auto-update turned on but I don't think that's causing the problem. The performance was like that even before I had Norton Anti-virus installed.

What would be the possible cause of the slow performance? And, what's with the slow icon redrawing thing on my desktop?

Do you have any clue? I thought I maintain my system regularly including all the registry clean up business.

DriveEuro · Feb 14, 2003, 02:27 AM

Dude, you have to throughly explain your problem. What are all the things that you are causing you to believe that you are having a memory link.

blix9 · Feb 14, 2003, 04:09 AM

I really can't think of any. Is there some typical cause of slow performance with fairly decent machine?

ToshiroOC · Feb 14, 2003, 05:10 AM

Hmmm... it sounds to me like you probably have a bunch of background processes running - when you first boot up, hit ctrl-alt-del and post here the names of all of the threads that aren't running next to the word "SYSTEM" (and if there are just a hell of a lot, post that there are a lot instead...)

DriveEuro · Feb 14, 2003, 05:14 AM

Dude, are you sure that you are getting "slow performance"? Has the performance of the rig just slowly deteriorated over time? Or is it just an instant drop in performance?

blix9 · Feb 14, 2003, 07:05 AM

I think it was slowly deteriorated in time but at some point recently it decresed a lot in short time. Also, my 3Dmark score was never in the range of other machines likely configured with even little less horse power.

DriveEuro · Feb 14, 2003, 07:21 AM

Dude, I have no clue. Try a scandisk and a defrag...? See if that does anything. Check to see if you have any processes that are running that you don't need running?

Mystik · Feb 16, 2003, 10:23 AM

euro, you might wanna cut back on starting all your replies with dude. =p

also, blix..
your low score could possibly be that you do have background processes running,
like NAV.. to get the highest possible performance from your computer, you shouldn't
have too many things running in the background (none, if you can).

for example, on bootup, my computer only loads one program, aka. only has one
icon beside the clock.

blix9 · Feb 16, 2003, 06:16 PM

What can I get rid of it? Can I actually get rid of it all and have Windows running with no problem? I just looked at tem and it seems like they are all necessary.

Mystik · Feb 16, 2003, 07:16 PM

I'm not sure about WinXP, so someone else will have to tell you which
processes are required and which isn't..

I use Win98se myself.

merry · Feb 17, 2003, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by blix9
Also, occasionally, my screen redraws the desktop and when it does that I can see the slow redrawing process of icons.

Something like this happened to me a while ago... And more than that, all newer drivers didn't install well, the system became unstable and I had to revert to the last system restore.

Turned out it was a bad uninstall of a video driver, basically one day I just did a very thorough inspection of the registry and found some 'remains' of an older driver. So what I did was to uninstall the current video driver and reinstall, everything worked fine and the problem was fixed. I have an ATI board, I used the guide listed in the ATI driver section, but I think you can find support in the nVidia section for driver problems...

rebel · Feb 23, 2003, 11:17 PM

I 've read somewhere that NAV is having a mamory leak with WinXp.Try uninstalling it or wait for the bugfix version...

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Apr 20, 2003, 06:23 AM

i suggest backup, saving ur files and settings and reformatting. use that ad-aware program to keep the junk such as the gayest program every made (cept for porno!) kazaa.. use kazaa lite. all the porn, none of the spyware. xp doesnt really leak, but using ad-aware will get rid of programs which run without u knowning so becareful. thorough check disk and a good defrag helps also and keeping the disk usage under 60%

Mystik · Apr 20, 2003, 08:02 AM

Zombies ate my forum threads!

die you undead ascii characters!

The_Neon_Cowboy · Apr 20, 2003, 09:22 AM

refur to this for help..................................... this way i save alot of typeing you

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...threadid=14047

hope that helps

the master tweaker strikes again!

Feb 13, 2003, 01:58 AM	#1
blix9 DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 315 Rep Power: 0	Memory leak? Hello guys. What is memory leak and how do I check it? My system seems rather slow considering its horse power.(AthlonXP1800, GeForce4400, nForce1 MB) Thanks.

Feb 13, 2003, 03:04 AM	#2
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	The biggest thing that will tell you if you have a memory think, and what is leaking it, is your OS. What are you running? XP? 98? ME? __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Feb 13, 2003, 04:09 AM	#4
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	I doubt you have a memory leak. Why would you think that you would have a memory leak anyways? __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Feb 13, 2003, 04:35 AM	Thread Starter #5
blix9 DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 315 Rep Power: 0	I do not really know anything about memory leak. Somebody told me the other day that if my system does not perform well as it should I should suspect memory leak(?) As you can see in my spec I have Ti4400. I know that a single benchmark test would not tell the overall performance of a system but I got about 800 with the new 3DMark 2003. I found that most of people with Ti4200 128MB and same CPU as mine got over 1000 with no overclocking. Some of them even have less than 512MB system memory. It was same situation with the old version of 3DMark SE. What I am saying is this is consistant lacking in performance. In time, I started to think my machine is not as fast as it should be. Also, occasionally, my screen redraws the desktop and when it does that I can see the slow redrawing process of icons. Same thing happens when I open a new window or when I move my mouse over 'Start' --> 'Program'. I can see it redraws all the iocons in my program list. This happens quite often, well, all the time nowadays. I don't even load up many programs when I boot up. Of course, I don't really know this has anything to do with 'memory leak' Can you explain me what's is causing these symptoms? Thanks Last edited by blix9; Feb 13, 2003 at 04:11 PM.

Feb 13, 2003, 05:01 AM	#6
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Dude, what are your system specs? That score is ridiculous. I'm gettin almost 1800 with my Ti4200 (hella overclocked). __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Feb 13, 2003, 04:03 AM	Thread Starter #3
blix9 DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 315 Rep Power: 0	WinXP Pro. here is my rig: -AMD XP 1800 with TI-V77L HSF -Abit NV7-133R(latest C3 BIOS) -512 meg, 2 x 256 Xtreme DDR(single-sided) -Leadtek Ti 4400 128MB -Maxtor 60gig ATA133 -Pioneer DVD 16x S106(slot loadong) -Win XP pro -nothing overclocked -Antec 1030B case (with Antec TruPower 480W PSU)

Feb 13, 2003, 04:09 PM	Thread Starter #7
blix9 DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 315 Rep Power: 0	here is my rig: -AMD XP 1800 with TI-V77L HSF -Abit NV7-133R(latest C3 BIOS) -512 meg, 2 x 256 Xtreme DDR(single-sided) -Leadtek Ti 4400 128MB (42.86 driver) -Maxtor 60gig ATA133 -Pioneer DVD 16x S106(slot loadong) -Samsung CDRW 48X24X48 -Win XP pro -nothing overclocked -Antec 1030B case (with Antec TruPower 480W PSU)

Feb 13, 2003, 05:03 PM	#8
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Dude, if you are running XP Pro, then I would not worry about a memory leak. Unless you have some funky ass programs open that are accessing the net 24/7. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Feb 14, 2003, 02:19 AM	Thread Starter #9
blix9 DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 315 Rep Power: 0	Thanks for your input, Euro. Then, what seems to be the cause of the symptoms I mentioned in earlier post? I don't think I have any funky program that access internet 24/7. I have Norton Anti-virus installed the other day and it's got auto-update turned on but I don't think that's causing the problem. The performance was like that even before I had Norton Anti-virus installed. What would be the possible cause of the slow performance? And, what's with the slow icon redrawing thing on my desktop? Do you have any clue? I thought I maintain my system regularly including all the registry clean up business.

Feb 14, 2003, 02:27 AM	#10
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Dude, you have to throughly explain your problem. What are all the things that you are causing you to believe that you are having a memory link. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Feb 14, 2003, 04:09 AM	Thread Starter #11
blix9 DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 315 Rep Power: 0	I really can't think of any. Is there some typical cause of slow performance with fairly decent machine?

Feb 14, 2003, 05:10 AM	#12
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Hmmm... it sounds to me like you probably have a bunch of background processes running - when you first boot up, hit ctrl-alt-del and post here the names of all of the threads that aren't running next to the word "SYSTEM" (and if there are just a hell of a lot, post that there are a lot instead...) __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Feb 14, 2003, 05:14 AM	#13
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Dude, are you sure that you are getting "slow performance"? Has the performance of the rig just slowly deteriorated over time? Or is it just an instant drop in performance? __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Feb 14, 2003, 07:05 AM	Thread Starter #14
blix9 DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 315 Rep Power: 0	I think it was slowly deteriorated in time but at some point recently it decresed a lot in short time. Also, my 3Dmark score was never in the range of other machines likely configured with even little less horse power.

Feb 14, 2003, 07:21 AM	#15
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Dude, I have no clue. Try a scandisk and a defrag...? See if that does anything. Check to see if you have any processes that are running that you don't need running? __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Feb 16, 2003, 10:23 AM	#16
Mystik i'm an errand. Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 237 Rep Power: 0	euro, you might wanna cut back on starting all your replies with dude. =p also, blix.. your low score could possibly be that you do have background processes running, like NAV.. to get the highest possible performance from your computer, you shouldn't have too many things running in the background (none, if you can). for example, on bootup, my computer only loads one program, aka. only has one icon beside the clock. __________________ For as long as the sun shines, there will always be darkness. -- me.

Feb 16, 2003, 06:16 PM	Thread Starter #17
blix9 DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 315 Rep Power: 0	What can I get rid of it? Can I actually get rid of it all and have Windows running with no problem? I just looked at tem and it seems like they are all necessary.

Feb 16, 2003, 07:16 PM	#18
Mystik i'm an errand. Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 237 Rep Power: 0	I'm not sure about WinXP, so someone else will have to tell you which processes are required and which isn't.. I use Win98se myself. __________________ For as long as the sun shines, there will always be darkness. -- me.

Feb 23, 2003, 11:17 PM	#20
rebel DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	I 've read somewhere that NAV is having a mamory leak with WinXp.Try uninstalling it or wait for the bugfix version...

Apr 20, 2003, 06:23 AM	#21
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,717 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	i suggest backup, saving ur files and settings and reformatting. use that ad-aware program to keep the junk such as the gayest program every made (cept for porno!) kazaa.. use kazaa lite. all the porn, none of the spyware. xp doesnt really leak, but using ad-aware will get rid of programs which run without u knowning so becareful. thorough check disk and a good defrag helps also and keeping the disk usage under 60% __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard

Apr 20, 2003, 08:02 AM	#22
Mystik i'm an errand. Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 237 Rep Power: 0	Zombies ate my forum threads! die you undead ascii characters! __________________ For as long as the sun shines, there will always be darkness. -- me.

Apr 20, 2003, 09:22 AM	#23
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	refur to this for help..................................... this way i save alot of typeing you http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...threadid=14047 hope that helps the master tweaker strikes again! __________________ Last edited by The_Neon_Cowboy; Apr 20, 2003 at 09:29 AM.