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PangingJr · Apr 2, 2007, 05:57 AM

Paragon software's Drive Backup - http://www.drive-backup.com/corporat...l/features.htm - is another very good disk/partition imaging software.
Paragon has incorporated many good features of its Partition Manager's into this software. however, as of today's version (which is version 8.5) there is still some limitation on its ability to work with the Vista system. the Known issues with this version are:

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Program can restore only whole hard disks. In case of several partitions the last one must be aligned to cylinder boundaries (i.e. created by our program).

Note: Only MBR disks are supported. GPT disks support coming soon in the next updates.
Only Basic disks are supported. Dynamic disks support coming soon in the next updates.

http://www.paragon-software.com/vista

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otherwise, it is the disk imaging software i perfered the most.
the Paragon software is getting its software fully Vista compatible, then after that i will probably go back to experiment it, again.

note about the type of disks above...
Master boot record (MBR) disks use the standard BIOS partition table. GUID partition table (GPT) disks use extensible firmware interface (EFI). One advantage of GPT disks is that you can have more than four partitions on each disk. GPT is also required for disks larger than 2 terabytes.
Dynamic disks: Contains an unlimited number of dynamic volumes that function like the primary partitions used on basic disks. The main difference between basic disks and dynamic disks is that dynamic disks are able to split or share data among two or more dynamic hard disks on a computer.

~~DudeBoyz~~ · Apr 2, 2007, 11:26 AM

Interesting. Thanks for the info.

I do user Paragon's Partition Manager (got a free legal license to Paragon Partition Manger 2005) in addition to Partition Magic 8 that I bought at the store. One seems to work where the other does not, and vice-versa.

Never thought to look at another imaging app for the PC though, since Ghost seemed to work so well all these years. But now I'll have Acronis 10 and Ghost, so my bases should be covered.

As for that other partition thingI have had enough work to do over the years dealing with MBR - don't know if I care to move beyond that format any time soon. My brain has limited capacity and I have to put what I do have to a more focused use.

PangingJr · Apr 2, 2007, 11:46 AM

your welcome.
and just so you know, all of the informations i posted above is/was not strictly for you.

Dyre Straits · Nov 4, 2007, 10:37 PM

Forgive me for reviving this old thread, but, I've got a few questions that I think can be answered fairly quickly.

Having only installed Vista Home Premium 32-bit OEM three weeks ago, I discovered that the slowest device in my Windows Performance Rating is the Samsung SATA drive I installed on. So, today I picked up a new 320 GB SATA 300 drive and I want to put the installed Vista image onto the new drive and then format and use the Samsung drive as storage.

Can the Paragon (Vista Compatible 8.51 30-Day Trial) Version do this?

I await a reply before proceeding.

Thanks!

EDIT: I get to answer my own question.

The answer is a resounding, YES! Got the entire image copied over from a Samsung 160 GB HDD, using +/- 80 GB to a 320 GB Hitachi using the full size of the new HDD. Took 1 hour, 13 minutes to complete.

PangingJr · Nov 21, 2007, 11:02 AM

i have not tried the 8.51 version of the Paragon's software, so how you like it so far, Dyre Straits?
if i can recall, Acronis True Image will have the partition image done in a High compression file more faster and use smaller disk space to store the image file than the Paragon Hard Disk Manager (and Drive Backup, which has about the same program engine for creating/restoring diak/partition image). you may like the True Image more if you have a chance to try its full version.

Dyre Straits · Nov 21, 2007, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PangingJr

i have not tried the 8.51 version of the Paragon's software, so how you like it so far, Dyre Straits?
if i can recall, Acronis True Image will have the partition image done in a High compression file more faster and use smaller disk space to store the image file than the Paragon Hard Disk Manager (and Drive Backup, which has about the same program engine for creating/restoring diak/partition image). you may like the True Image more if you have a chance to try its full version.

I actually enjoyed using the Paragon program in this instance. I feel it saved me a lot of headaches getting the OS transferred over to a new HDD. I only got the 30-day trial version and it worked just fine.

I don't think I'll be needing to switch the OS to another HDD anytime soon, so, the program served its purpose.

I think what I'll want next is a way to move Windows over to another motherboard (rendering the previous one null and void) with as little hassle as possible.

I was quite pleased, too, that Microsoft had no problem giving me a quick re-activation of Vista OEM.

PangingJr · Nov 24, 2007, 06:33 AM

ok thanks Dyre.
i use this type of program quite often myself, from just for a system backup purpose to disk to disk and partition to partition cloning, and for moving the installed OS from one partition to another partition.

Bozzer · Dec 10, 2007, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DudeBoyz

One thing I am concerned about is the ability of an app to do a TRUE image of a drive while inside Windows.

I used to ASR in Windows XP prior to using TI. Then someone recommended me True Image. The reason you cannot delete or move certain files is that MS makes the OS idiot proof to stop users messing up their installs by specifying certain privileges on those files. There are far more privileges then "read only" and "archive" but the standard user does not get to mess with them. You can set them with an MSDOS command or by using Powershell. However the system itself at some point has to read those locked files. TI hooks into these commands and API's. Whilst the standard user is prevented from doing so.

So yes, it is possible to do a TRUE image inside windows. In fact XP Pro has the facility built into it (as does Home, but you have to install the front end).

And trust me, TI does work. I have been using for over 2 years now. I have two partitions. One for games and one for general usage. My general usage has Office, Photoshop and Video editing facilities on it. I never install shareware or anything else. It is purely a production environment. However my gaming partition regularly gets refreshed as it gets clogged up with demos and other what nots.

I created two TI images. One straight away after Install (after updates such as IE7, WMP11, etc) and then another after I have installed all the drivers. So whenever my XP partition gets clogged up, I insert my recovery CD and use the relevant image. Within around 10-12 minutes I have a pristine XP partition again, ready to mess up.

Apr 2, 2007, 05:57 AM	#31
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 70	Paragon software's Drive Backup - http://www.drive-backup.com/corporat...l/features.htm - is another very good disk/partition imaging software. Paragon has incorporated many good features of its Partition Manager's into this software. however, as of today's version (which is version 8.5) there is still some limitation on its ability to work with the Vista system. the Known issues with this version are: ============== Program can restore only whole hard disks. In case of several partitions the last one must be aligned to cylinder boundaries (i.e. created by our program). Note: Only MBR disks are supported. GPT disks support coming soon in the next updates. Only Basic disks are supported. Dynamic disks support coming soon in the next updates. http://www.paragon-software.com/vista ========================== otherwise, it is the disk imaging software i perfered the most. the Paragon software is getting its software fully Vista compatible, then after that i will probably go back to experiment it, again. note about the type of disks above... Master boot record (MBR) disks use the standard BIOS partition table. GUID partition table (GPT) disks use extensible firmware interface (EFI). One advantage of GPT disks is that you can have more than four partitions on each disk. GPT is also required for disks larger than 2 terabytes. Dynamic disks: Contains an unlimited number of dynamic volumes that function like the primary partitions used on basic disks. The main difference between basic disks and dynamic disks is that dynamic disks are able to split or share data among two or more dynamic hard disks on a computer. Last edited by PangingJr; Apr 2, 2007 at 06:04 AM.

Apr 2, 2007, 11:26 AM	#32
~~DudeBoyz~~ banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,677 Rep Power: 0	Interesting. Thanks for the info. I do user Paragon's Partition Manager (got a free legal license to Paragon Partition Manger 2005) in addition to Partition Magic 8 that I bought at the store. One seems to work where the other does not, and vice-versa. Never thought to look at another imaging app for the PC though, since Ghost seemed to work so well all these years. But now I'll have Acronis 10 and Ghost, so my bases should be covered. As for that other partition thingI have had enough work to do over the years dealing with MBR - don't know if I care to move beyond that format any time soon. My brain has limited capacity and I have to put what I do have to a more focused use.

Apr 2, 2007, 11:46 AM	#33
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 70	your welcome. and just so you know, all of the informations i posted above is/was not strictly for you.

Nov 21, 2007, 11:02 AM	#35
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 70	i have not tried the 8.51 version of the Paragon's software, so how you like it so far, Dyre Straits? if i can recall, Acronis True Image will have the partition image done in a High compression file more faster and use smaller disk space to store the image file than the Paragon Hard Disk Manager (and Drive Backup, which has about the same program engine for creating/restoring diak/partition image). you may like the True Image more if you have a chance to try its full version.

Nov 24, 2007, 06:33 AM	#37
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 70	ok thanks Dyre. i use this type of program quite often myself, from just for a system backup purpose to disk to disk and partition to partition cloning, and for moving the installed OS from one partition to another partition.