BlueMak

I love my Opera browser. It's my main and only (apart from windows update etc) browser for years now.
But, slowly its little quirks (sp?) are getting too much. Some flash videos will not go fullscreen, windows media videos will some times play some times won't, plus the 3 times (in a long time) that I lost bookmarks I had "stored" next to the navigation buttons. Occasional crashes (not THAT often, but still), you get my point. Plus anti virus messages about viruses in the cache of the Opera.

So for the last few days I have been using, at the same time, Firefox. I am sorry to say, but, I kind of like it. I use it more and more each day and I am very close to change to it for good.

This post is more like a message to my sweet Opera. I don't know for how long I will keep using you my dear.

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The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis
This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm Sic semper tyrannis.

ET3D

I feel for you. A few days ago I posted a message saying goodbye to my old partner SeaMonkey. Granted moving from Opera is a little more of a change, but in any case it's hard to live a familiar application behind. I still use Opera as my secondary browser, because I like the ability to see all pages as sub-windows instead of tabs, but I haven't used it as a main browser since Opera 6 or so.

Al_Vampyre

I have used Opera for years but recently switched to FF for compatability with AWOMO, I miss certain features but I'm getting along OK with FF

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isaak

You made the right choice BlueMak

I've used Firefox for years now and everything has always been just dandy

...except update 3.0.8 which has unexplained crashes when i download things

CDsDontBurn

honestly, i'm one who prefers ie7. ie8 has things i don't like about it, so if i stick to my ie fanboyism, those particular features will "grow" on me. otherwise, i've been finding myself also using FF more and more. it's been at work i've been using it most at. and the primary reason is because of add-ons you can get for the browser that ie7 does not offer because it is not open source like FF is.

although, one browser i should try but haven't is google chrome.

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Tyrsonswood

I've been using chrome for a few months now...... It's fast and stable but it has a few compatibility issues with some pages. Nothing that bugs me much. Didn't like FF, ie7 and ie8 are just slow.

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Mac Daddy

BlueMak I have been using Mozilla browsers since 1.4RC and they have all been pretty good. Too bad on the compatibility issues with Opera years ago I considered it equivalent to FF but haven't used it in a while now.

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Tipstaff

What's bad about Firefox is that by default it's ugly and useless. You have to start installing themes, add-ons, and customizing the interface to get it to a more nicer looking, more useful state. For me thats about 7 add-ons, 1 theme, and a bunch of interface tweaks.

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Mac Daddy

I don't change anything I am not interested on how it looks just how it works.

(Aside from some basic setting changes)

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Zardon

I dont see a problem with moving browsers. I use IE7, firefox, opera, safari, chrome and stainless browsers. Depends what im doing.

Mac Daddy

I usually keep most of them handy as well it's good for testing things on forums, etc. We are running into an issue ATM where an image in Word Press works fine in Chrome but not in FF.

Ya never know

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Judas

IE8 baby.... fastest damn thing i've used to date....

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Mac Daddy

Works that well?

I should get back to testing that one I have 6 OS's to boot to on 3 machines so I try something new on each if I can.

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Judas

Well the win7 IE8 was quite nice.. buggy though... frequently crashed on specific things... but it loaded pages very quick..

the IE8 i've been installing on WinXP and Vista machines are amazing.. no problems... actually to me, solved some major problems with IE7.. which is obviously a good thing

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Tyrsonswood

I've both IE8 and Chrome on the same system.... Chrome is much faster

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Mac Daddy

Have you tried the 7077 build with IE8 to see if it's less buggy?

If not I might I have 3 things to test on it.

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3FUN

Dont do it. Opera is the best browser ever. Now that it has some bugs, yes it does, but it is still less buggy then firefox. I use Opera myself and when the pages that dont want to open or have some bugs make any trouble, I just open them with firefox. Acordin to the latest research by Secunia: Firefox 115 bugs, Opera 30 bugs, ie7 31 bugs and Safari 32 bugs.

|2A|N

I was a long time FF user till Chrome became available. Then Safari 4 Beta became available and I just love that browser also.

It took some time to get used to but I believe Safari 4 has set a few standards in terms of an end-user experience and it's fast.

I like eye candy and safari 4 certainly brings this into perspective, for me anyways.

As for chosing between FF and Opera I'd have to say FF would be my pick for pretty much the same reason evereyone else uses it. Fast, lots of addons and of course because of Adblock Plus!

Zardon

id say out of all of them, they all bring something to the table. overall however I find myself using Safari 4 the most. its certainly the fastest, although I generally use OSX now so I can't really comment on the windows side as I tend to use it more for gaming or reviewing not browsing.

BlueMak

I don't see myself using Safari. I just don't trust Apple enough for a PC browser. Chrome is ok, but I don't want to use it, Google is big enough already.

There are some things about FF that I can't figure out yet. If I do then I will finish the migration to FF, if not, I will use both at the same time (as I am doing right now).

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The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis
This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm Sic semper tyrannis.

Zardon

dear lord man, unbunch, its only a piece of software, not a magical vessel which slowly absorbs your soul.

Chrome is actually quite a good browser, nice and snappy, still has some rendering issues and bugs, but I quite like it. good on smaller screens.

Funnily enough firefox is probably my least favourite browser. personal taste mind you as I don't use or need any extensions. People always seem to mention the security of IE as an issue, but surprisingly FF has had more security holes than any browser over the last 2 years.

BlueMak

That's what they were saying about Windows and now look at it.





Guys, a couple of questions about FF.
1)Is it possible to have the bookmarks shown in a list/tree on the right side of the screen?
2)Is it possible to select an address (not a hyperlink) and tell FF to go to that address?
3)Is there a way to have a + button or something, next to the open tabs so that you can one click open a new tab?
4)How on earth do you install window media player for FF? I have tried it several times so far and it never works.

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The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis
This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm Sic semper tyrannis.

Tipstaff

1) Yes. What you have to do is override the default sidebar properties so that instead of it opening on the left it opens on the right. To do this you need to create a css file called "userChrome.css" using a text editor, and input this into it:

/* Place the Sidebar on the Right Edge of the Window */
window > hbox {
direction:rtl;
}
window > hbox > * {
direction:ltr;
}

Make sure you hard return after the last }. Save it, and drop the userChrome.css file into your users profile/chrome folder (C:\Documents and Settings\user\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\user.default\chrome) . Make sure Firefox is closed when you do this, and the next time you open it the css file will override the default. There are other things you can do via customization files, such as have different colored tabs, increase the size of the search bar, or you can even remove menu items such as Help.

2) Yep. When the bookmark sidebar is open, just right-click it, and you can choose to open the link in the same window, open in a new window, or in a new tab. There is a glitch to this though, and that is that Firefox only allows this once a page has started to load. So, if you just click an address to open, and you right-click to open a new on in a new tab, it will most likely be grayed out, and will remain so until the first page starts to actually load.

3) Couple ways to do this. The easiest is to customize the bar where back/forward/reload is so that it has a New Tab button. To do this just right-click the space beside "Help", and choose "Customize". In the new window you will see a "New Tab" button. Just drag it from that window to where you want it, but it can only be the bar areas, so you could put it on the right side of that back/forward/reload before the address window. You can also move around items on the screen while this window is open, btw, customizing it however you want.

The other way, and a real easy way to open a new tab, double click the open space beside a tab, and it will open a new one. If there is no space left (say, because you have a ton of tabs open), you can also right click the tab bar, and choose to open a new tab.

4) Err... you got me. Have to search for that one.

BTW, check out THIS page. It's got a crap load of stuff on configuring Firefox via addons and customization files.

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BlueMak

Tipstaff, I am talking about Firefox, not Chrome.

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The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis
This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm Sic semper tyrannis.

Tipstaff

Me too.

Edit: This is what it should look like after you do the different options I've posted about:

Edit: oh yeah.. post a pic which includes your bookmarks.. real nice Tipstaff. DOH!

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BlueMak

This is for Firefox although it says chrome in several places?

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The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis
This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm Sic semper tyrannis.

Tipstaff

Yep. Weird, eh? If I remember correctly it has to do with Firefoxs use of XML. I don't remember why they refer to it as chrome though.

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Mac Daddy

Interesting Tipstaff

EDIT: BTW been running IE8 on Win7 build 7.077 and it is much better but still not as fast as Chrome, FF or Safari.

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Rahazan

You should try both Chrome and Firefox. Firefox has alot of addons and Chrome has a nice look and is simplistic.

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Tipstaff

For anyone that likes Chromes Incognito or Auto Dial, check out these 2 add-ons:

Speed Dial
Stealther

And no.. I'm not going to post the Chrome theme, or the add-on that moves the tabs bar to the top so that you can get that whole Chrome feel and look.

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