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Driver 7 · Dec 6, 2003, 05:55 AM

K I Just finished making a XP slipstream and I am going to reformat and reinstall. As far as speed goes should I create a seperate partition for the pagefile and how big should it be?

Calinerti · Dec 6, 2003, 06:05 AM

http://www.blackviper.com/AskBV/XP17.htm

This should help out. Works well for me, fixed size swap file on a seperate partition. Not the best, but an improvement.

scobywhru · Dec 6, 2003, 06:07 AM

It does make the computer faster and I would just make it anywhere from 768mb - 1.5gb, but its faster if its on the first partition of a 2nd HD

Driver 7 · Dec 6, 2003, 08:11 AM

OK. So I should put my swap on a 1.5gb partition. But I'm running raid so why would I not put the swap on both partitions. 1 on each drive. And why the 1st partition of the 2nd HD. Should'nt that be the same as the 2nd partition of the 1st HD?

Driver 7 · Dec 6, 2003, 11:28 AM

How about this set up then. I have a few scsi drives lying arround.

C:\ Drive- WinXP. 9.1GB. - The scsi drive
D:\ Drive- Temp. 2GB. - for the Temp directory
E:\ Drive- 238GB - NTFS - All Video/Audio files, Downloads etc.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Dec 6, 2003, 02:33 PM

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Originally posted by scobywhru
It does make the computer faster and I would just make it anywhere from 768mb - 1.5gb, but its faster if its on the first partition of a 2nd HD

acually i tested that theory a while back.
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...highlight=swap

...it failed ... unless you have 2 or the dame drive (wich means you shouls be running raid anyways)... otherwise it must be on you fastest drive... so if you what to run you os from the slowest drive... and the faster drive as swap....

also you can share your swap file across more than one drive 2 ... but it still better to put it on the fastest drive.....

as for size it depends on what you do with your pc, i usally use a gigabyte. What ever size you chose make it a little larger then you think you need. make sure the min and max are the same size! otherwise your drive/pagefile will get fragmented all the time.....

The_Neon_Cowboy · Dec 6, 2003, 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by Driver 7
How about this set up then. I have a few scsi drives lying arround.

C:\ Drive- WinXP. 9.1GB. - The scsi drive
D:\ Drive- Temp. 2GB. - for the Temp directory
E:\ Drive- 238GB - NTFS - All Video/Audio files, Downloads etc.

which evers the fastest drive..... also beside being on a diffrent drive it need to be on another channel like seconadry ide dont use you second primary for it..

if you partion to use one drive as in linux use partition magic 8 to put the partion first before your current partiton. it'll give you the best speed. if you put it after it will be put on the slow edge of the drive....

Matth · Dec 6, 2003, 03:25 PM

My recollection of a rule of thumb for swapfile placement was:

The MOST used Partition, on the LEAST used drive.

The least used drive is fairly obvious, or on it's own drive, or on a drive that is not likely to be very busy under contitions which create heavy swap activity.

The MOST used partition, is about avoiding excess seek time - while it may seem attracdtive to tuck the swap away at the end of the drive, that is the worst you could do, as that has the highest seek time to get there, and the lowest transfer rate when it does - the first partion on modern ZBR drives always has the highest transfer rate.

Final Rule, if you have more than adequate memory, swap performance may be insignificant (even if it's a bit swapped, it won't be busy) - while if memory is inadequate, even the best swap tuning is unlikely to save you from miserable performance.

Dec 6, 2003, 05:55 AM	#1
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Dec 6, 2003, 06:07 AM	#3
scobywhru DriverHeaven Senile Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Penthouse Basement Posts: 619 Rep Power: 0	It does make the computer faster and I would just make it anywhere from 768mb - 1.5gb, but its faster if its on the first partition of a 2nd HD __________________

Dec 6, 2003, 08:11 AM	Thread Starter #4
Driver 7 Discombobulated NVidiot Join Date: May 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC - CANADA Posts: 1,015 Rep Power: 0	OK. So I should put my swap on a 1.5gb partition. But I'm running raid so why would I not put the swap on both partitions. 1 on each drive. And why the 1st partition of the 2nd HD. Should'nt that be the same as the 2nd partition of the 1st HD? __________________ [COLOR=Black]Asus A8N Deluxe SLI, AMD64 4200 X2 Dual Core, 2x 6800's, Corsair TwinX PC4000 DDR500, Yamaha F1 cdrw, Soundblaster Audigy 2, 2 SATA 120 gig Maxtor HD's, Raid 0 array, Altec Lancing 5.1 Surround Speakers, Thermaltake Xaser III Case, Stealth 470w Power supply, 21.3" Samsung widescreen, MX1000 Lazer mouse.[/COLOR]

Dec 6, 2003, 11:28 AM	Thread Starter #5
Driver 7 Discombobulated NVidiot Join Date: May 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC - CANADA Posts: 1,015 Rep Power: 0	How about this set up then. I have a few scsi drives lying arround. C:\ Drive- WinXP. 9.1GB. - The scsi drive D:\ Drive- Temp. 2GB. - for the Temp directory E:\ Drive- 238GB - NTFS - All Video/Audio files, Downloads etc. __________________ [COLOR=Black]Asus A8N Deluxe SLI, AMD64 4200 X2 Dual Core, 2x 6800's, Corsair TwinX PC4000 DDR500, Yamaha F1 cdrw, Soundblaster Audigy 2, 2 SATA 120 gig Maxtor HD's, Raid 0 array, Altec Lancing 5.1 Surround Speakers, Thermaltake Xaser III Case, Stealth 470w Power supply, 21.3" Samsung widescreen, MX1000 Lazer mouse.[/COLOR]

Dec 6, 2003, 06:05 AM	#2
Calinerti DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Elysium Posts: 330 Rep Power: 0	http://www.blackviper.com/AskBV/XP17.htm This should help out. Works well for me, fixed size swap file on a seperate partition. Not the best, but an improvement.

Dec 6, 2003, 03:25 PM	#8
Matth Flash Banner Hater Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: UK Posts: 3,426 Rep Power: 93 System Specs	My recollection of a rule of thumb for swapfile placement was: The MOST used Partition, on the LEAST used drive. The least used drive is fairly obvious, or on it's own drive, or on a drive that is not likely to be very busy under contitions which create heavy swap activity. The MOST used partition, is about avoiding excess seek time - while it may seem attracdtive to tuck the swap away at the end of the drive, that is the worst you could do, as that has the highest seek time to get there, and the lowest transfer rate when it does - the first partion on modern ZBR drives always has the highest transfer rate. Final Rule, if you have more than adequate memory, swap performance may be insignificant (even if it's a bit swapped, it won't be busy) - while if memory is inadequate, even the best swap tuning is unlikely to save you from miserable performance.