Mouse acceleration tweak

~~shai~~ · Jul 19, 2002, 07:48 AM

Hi,
Today I Found a tweak from "yiNXs" (who should get all the credit) wich actually resolves the "xp mouse acceleration bug". Most people who play games like quake3 and counterstrike know what I mean. There were some workarounds, but they never satisfied me.

If you don't believe it; try it yourself!

Here is the tweak:

Background (yiNXs)
The tweak was found by finding a logic order in the 64-bit hexa-decimal values at the below regestry-entries. When trying different values, you should come up with a diagram wich displays a curve, this is the unwanted acceleration. Adjusting the values that the curve becomes a straight line rosolves the mouse-acceleration.

1. Safe the following text to a .reg file and doubleclick it:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Mouse]
"SmoothMouseXCurve"=hex:00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00 ,a0,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,40,\
01,00,00,00,00,00,00,80,02,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,05 ,00,00,00,00,00
"SmoothMouseYCurve"=hex:00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,66 ,a6,02,00,00,00,00,00,cd,4c,\
05,00,00,00,00,00,a0,99,0a,00,00,00,00,00,38,33,15 ,00,00,00,00,00

2. Reboot your computer

franguinho · Jul 19, 2002, 09:31 AM

goodie!

thx dude!

~~shai~~ · Jul 19, 2002, 09:38 AM

your welcome

~~Sourcer_2002~~ · Jul 19, 2002, 05:30 PM

You can also turn up he refresh rate to make the whole GUI "seem" quicker

franguinho · Jul 25, 2002, 01:34 PM

erm

just applied this and realized i liked it better before... what to do to undo this?

can i just delete the 2 new values added?

FreddeOnTheNet · Jul 26, 2002, 12:27 PM

i really liked it

thanx alot for this tip

Chilljf · Jul 26, 2002, 09:15 PM

thanx alot for the fix... It def helped alot.. I had to turn off enhance pointer precession tho under pointer options

franguinho · Jul 27, 2002, 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by franguinho
erm

just applied this and realized i liked it better before... what to do to undo this?

can i just delete the 2 new values added?

anyone?

Chilljf · Jul 28, 2002, 11:37 AM

I tried it and didnt like it at 1st so I just deleted the 2 new reg settings and it went back to normal.. but I ended up adding it again cause I like the kinda feel it gives u

franguinho · Jul 29, 2002, 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chilljf
I tried it and didnt like it at 1st so I just deleted the 2 new reg settings and it went back to normal.. but I ended up adding it again cause I like the kinda feel it gives u

it makes the mouse too damn slow... i had to up my sensitivity in counter-strike from 1.8 to 5 just to make it somewhat responsive...

sickofregisterprocess · Dec 10, 2008, 04:05 PM

Hi,

Has anyone tried setting this:
"SmoothMouseXCurve"=hex:

it shows as "(zero-length binary value)"
in the registry

here is the reg file contents:

Code:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Mouse]
"ActiveWindowTracking"=dword:00000000
"Beep"="No"
"DoubleClickHeight"="16"
"DoubleClickSpeed"="500"
"DoubleClickWidth"="16"
"ExtendedSounds"="No"
"MouseHoverHeight"="4"
"MouseHoverTime"="400"
"MouseHoverWidth"="4"
"MouseSensitivity"="8"
"MouseThreshold1"="0"
"MouseThreshold2"="0"
"MouseTrails"="0"
"SnapToDefaultButton"="0"
"SwapMouseButtons"="0"
"MouseSpeed"="0"
"SmoothMouseXCurve"=hex:
"SmoothMouseYCurve"=hex:

I am really sensitive person and tried every mouse accel fix on the internet believe me it makes a huge difference.
My mouse hand's wrist stopped to bother me almost instantly.

Changing SmoothMouseXCurve to some other value is just another curve of accel. But setting this to non-value seems to turn accel off.

Best of luck

drivehard454 · Dec 10, 2008, 06:06 PM

Are these tweaks to make the mouse respond faster? I play Combat Arms and always get a delay when I fire. it is a short half second, but it makes all the difference sometimes. Is this my mouse or the game?

If you think this would be a solution, or have any other ideas, I am open to try them.

I must note though, I don't mess around much with registry changes, so I will need a step-by-step tutorial to do anything.

Thanks much

sterben · Dec 13, 2008, 01:22 PM

Do you really need to tweak your mouse?

BlueMak · Dec 13, 2008, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drivehard454

Are these tweaks to make the mouse respond faster? I play Combat Arms and always get a delay when I fire. it is a short half second, but it makes all the difference sometimes. Is this my mouse or the game?

If you think this would be a solution, or have any other ideas, I am open to try them.

I must note though, I don't mess around much with registry changes, so I will need a step-by-step tutorial to do anything.

Thanks much

Does the sound also delay when you fire or is the sound ok? Does it happen with other FPS games?

sickofregisterprocess · Dec 15, 2008, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterben

Do you really need to tweak your mouse?

Oh yes, I get it: you are the best of the rest and nothing bad is ever going to happen to you.
Illnesses such as tunnel syndrom or whatever only happen to other people.
You are safe here, no worries.

drivehard454 · Dec 18, 2008, 12:24 AM

The sound reacts the same time as the gun fires. I get good reaction while moving the mouse, but I have noticed that when I fire, there is a slight delay. Most noticable while I am doing a lot of action(running, jumping, moving side to side).

Likewise, when I stand still firing seems to react much faster.

BlueMak · Dec 18, 2008, 02:09 AM

Does it play better at lower resolution?

Your system is not top notch right now as you probably know.

You have checked the usual culprits, drivers etc, right?
It might be an issue with monitor lag, but since you say when there is less action there is less delay, it looks like a performance issue than anything else.

drivehard454 · Dec 21, 2008, 03:20 AM

Yes, it is probably a performance issue. I know my computer is outdated. I play at a good resolution and there is no delays with the game when there is a lot of action going on. Just when I shoot. So that is why I thought maybe it could be a mouse issue when I read this thread.

thanks

BlueMak · Dec 21, 2008, 03:25 AM

Any chance of using a camera to record this?

drivehard454 · Dec 22, 2008, 10:58 PM

Not sure how I would do that.(camera) I am going to the nexon forums and see if there are any related issues. But I am determining that it may just be a computer performance issue.

BlueMak · Dec 23, 2008, 01:55 AM

Just lower the camera so that it captures botht he on screen action and the mouse.
If you are right handed, place the camera on the height of the mouse and on its right side, aiming at both the mouse and the screen.
Or you could place the camera top (very helpful if someone else can do this for you) from above your head and behind, like a third person shooter, but the lighting must be good enough to be able to see the mouse buttons when clicked.
Or just hold the mouse infront of the screen and click away while having the camera near your head.

(yes I do study to become a filmmaker thank you very much :-p )

drivehard454 · Dec 23, 2008, 06:39 PM

I could give it a try.

Let me guess. We can use this to see if there is actually a delay, or if my finger reaction is slower than my brain, lol.

Would be interesting..... now if this holds true... what steps would we take to resolve the issue? Or are we back to it's my outdated system?

It doesn't happen all the time, kind of random. But during the course of a game I would have to day more than a 1/4 of the time I notice it.

BlueMak · Dec 23, 2008, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drivehard454

I could give it a try.

Let me guess. We can use this to see if there is actually a delay, or if my finger reaction is slower than my brain, lol.

Would be interesting..... now if this holds true... what steps would we take to resolve the issue? Or are we back to it's my outdated system?

It doesn't happen all the time, kind of random. But during the course of a game I would have to day more than a 1/4 of the time I notice it.

Yes, or if there is a monitor issue than performance issue.

How to resolve it? Well, in case it is a slow reaction from your body, not much I am afraid. You can always play combat mission and pretend to be a fps.

Jul 19, 2002, 07:48 AM	#1
~~shai~~ Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 613 Rep Power: 0	Mouse acceleration tweak Hi, Today I Found a tweak from "yiNXs" (who should get all the credit) wich actually resolves the "xp mouse acceleration bug". Most people who play games like quake3 and counterstrike know what I mean. There were some workarounds, but they never satisfied me. If you don't believe it; try it yourself! Here is the tweak: Background (yiNXs) The tweak was found by finding a logic order in the 64-bit hexa-decimal values at the below regestry-entries. When trying different values, you should come up with a diagram wich displays a curve, this is the unwanted acceleration. Adjusting the values that the curve becomes a straight line rosolves the mouse-acceleration. 1. Safe the following text to a .reg file and doubleclick it: Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Mouse] "SmoothMouseXCurve"=hex:00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00 ,a0,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,40,\ 01,00,00,00,00,00,00,80,02,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,05 ,00,00,00,00,00 "SmoothMouseYCurve"=hex:00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,66 ,a6,02,00,00,00,00,00,cd,4c,\ 05,00,00,00,00,00,a0,99,0a,00,00,00,00,00,38,33,15 ,00,00,00,00,00 2. Reboot your computer

Jul 19, 2002, 09:31 AM	#2
franguinho Brazilian Fool Join Date: May 2002 Location: São Paulo Posts: 3,380 Rep Power: 0	goodie! thx dude! __________________ The Aliens mostly come out at night... mostly...

Jul 19, 2002, 05:30 PM	#4
~~Sourcer_2002~~ BANNED Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Indiana , USA Posts: 2,677 Rep Power: 0	Refresh You can also turn up he refresh rate to make the whole GUI "seem" quicker

Jul 25, 2002, 01:34 PM	#5
franguinho Brazilian Fool Join Date: May 2002 Location: São Paulo Posts: 3,380 Rep Power: 0	erm just applied this and realized i liked it better before... what to do to undo this? can i just delete the 2 new values added? __________________ The Aliens mostly come out at night... mostly...

Jul 26, 2002, 09:15 PM	#7
Chilljf DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 46 Rep Power: 0	thanx alot for the fix... It def helped alot.. I had to turn off enhance pointer precession tho under pointer options __________________ E2180 M0 w/Nirvana NV120 (AS5) @ 3ghz IP35-E (bios 15) 300x10 - 1.405vcore (2) 1g Ballistix PC6400 (5-5-5-15 2T 2.2v) MSI 8800GT OC Audigy 2 (2) 36g WD Raptor 600w Ultra X-finity (2 80mm Fans) w/ CM690 Case (3 120mm Fans) Plextor PX-712A Win XP Pro SP2

Jul 19, 2002, 09:38 AM	Thread Starter #3
~~shai~~ Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 613 Rep Power: 0	your welcome

Jul 26, 2002, 12:27 PM	#6
FreddeOnTheNet DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	i really liked it thanx alot for this tip

Jul 28, 2002, 11:37 AM	#9
Chilljf DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 46 Rep Power: 0	I tried it and didnt like it at 1st so I just deleted the 2 new reg settings and it went back to normal.. but I ended up adding it again cause I like the kinda feel it gives u __________________ E2180 M0 w/Nirvana NV120 (AS5) @ 3ghz IP35-E (bios 15) 300x10 - 1.405vcore (2) 1g Ballistix PC6400 (5-5-5-15 2T 2.2v) MSI 8800GT OC Audigy 2 (2) 36g WD Raptor 600w Ultra X-finity (2 80mm Fans) w/ CM690 Case (3 120mm Fans) Plextor PX-712A Win XP Pro SP2

Dec 10, 2008, 04:05 PM	#11
sickofregisterprocess DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Re: Mouse acceleration tweak Hi, Has anyone tried setting this: "SmoothMouseXCurve"=hex: it shows as "(zero-length binary value)" in the registry here is the reg file contents: Code: Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Mouse] "ActiveWindowTracking"=dword:00000000 "Beep"="No" "DoubleClickHeight"="16" "DoubleClickSpeed"="500" "DoubleClickWidth"="16" "ExtendedSounds"="No" "MouseHoverHeight"="4" "MouseHoverTime"="400" "MouseHoverWidth"="4" "MouseSensitivity"="8" "MouseThreshold1"="0" "MouseThreshold2"="0" "MouseTrails"="0" "SnapToDefaultButton"="0" "SwapMouseButtons"="0" "MouseSpeed"="0" "SmoothMouseXCurve"=hex: "SmoothMouseYCurve"=hex: I am really sensitive person and tried every mouse accel fix on the internet believe me it makes a huge difference. My mouse hand's wrist stopped to bother me almost instantly. Changing SmoothMouseXCurve to some other value is just another curve of accel. But setting this to non-value seems to turn accel off. Best of luck

Dec 10, 2008, 06:06 PM	#12
drivehard454 HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 324 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: Mouse acceleration tweak Are these tweaks to make the mouse respond faster? I play Combat Arms and always get a delay when I fire. it is a short half second, but it makes all the difference sometimes. Is this my mouse or the game? If you think this would be a solution, or have any other ideas, I am open to try them. I must note though, I don't mess around much with registry changes, so I will need a step-by-step tutorial to do anything. Thanks much

Dec 13, 2008, 01:22 PM	#13
sterben DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 59 Rep Power: 0	Re: Mouse acceleration tweak Do you really need to tweak your mouse?

Dec 18, 2008, 12:24 AM	#16
drivehard454 HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 324 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: Mouse acceleration tweak The sound reacts the same time as the gun fires. I get good reaction while moving the mouse, but I have noticed that when I fire, there is a slight delay. Most noticable while I am doing a lot of action(running, jumping, moving side to side). Likewise, when I stand still firing seems to react much faster.

Dec 18, 2008, 02:09 AM	#17
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,459 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	Re: Mouse acceleration tweak Does it play better at lower resolution? Your system is not top notch right now as you probably know. You have checked the usual culprits, drivers etc, right? It might be an issue with monitor lag, but since you say when there is less action there is less delay, it looks like a performance issue than anything else. __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Dec 21, 2008, 03:20 AM	#18
drivehard454 HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 324 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: Mouse acceleration tweak Yes, it is probably a performance issue. I know my computer is outdated. I play at a good resolution and there is no delays with the game when there is a lot of action going on. Just when I shoot. So that is why I thought maybe it could be a mouse issue when I read this thread. thanks

Dec 21, 2008, 03:25 AM	#19
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,459 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	Re: Mouse acceleration tweak Any chance of using a camera to record this? __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Dec 22, 2008, 10:58 PM	#20
drivehard454 HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 324 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: Mouse acceleration tweak Not sure how I would do that.(camera) I am going to the nexon forums and see if there are any related issues. But I am determining that it may just be a computer performance issue.

Dec 23, 2008, 01:55 AM	#21
BlueMak HH's Asteroids' Dominator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hellas->Macedonia->Thessaloniki Posts: 13,459 Rep Power: 349 System Specs	Re: Mouse acceleration tweak Just lower the camera so that it captures botht he on screen action and the mouse. If you are right handed, place the camera on the height of the mouse and on its right side, aiming at both the mouse and the screen. Or you could place the camera top (very helpful if someone else can do this for you) from above your head and behind, like a third person shooter, but the lighting must be good enough to be able to see the mouse buttons when clicked. Or just hold the mouse infront of the screen and click away while having the camera near your head. (yes I do study to become a filmmaker thank you very much :-p ) __________________ The people who are regarded as moral luminaries are those who forego ordinary pleasures themselves and find compensation in interfering with the pleasures of others(Bertrand Russell)"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil,You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them." - Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis This is slavery, not to speak one's thought. [Euripides-The Phoenician Women (c.411-409 B.C.)] http://www.macedonia.info/FALLACIESANDFACTS.htm *Sic semper tyrannis.*

Dec 23, 2008, 06:39 PM	#22
drivehard454 HardwareHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 324 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: Mouse acceleration tweak I could give it a try. Let me guess. We can use this to see if there is actually a delay, or if my finger reaction is slower than my brain, lol. Would be interesting..... now if this holds true... what steps would we take to resolve the issue? Or are we back to it's my outdated system? It doesn't happen all the time, kind of random. But during the course of a game I would have to day more than a 1/4 of the time I notice it.