Amplitube 2 - Two Guitar Signals Simultaneously.

king hippo · Aug 2, 2007, 10:29 PM

Excuse me for joining the forum only to post this, but this has been bugging me all day and I can't seem to get past it.

I am running kX project on a Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 Digital, and I'm running Amplitube 2 and connecting my guitar to the line-in on my card using kX's ASIO.
My problem is that on Amplitube, I hear both my guitar signal WITH effects on, and the dry signal directly from the line-in at the same time. I managed to quieten the dry sound by turning the "INPUT" fader down, but it's still not enough. I'd assume this was because I was recording AC97 and also had it on playback at the same time, so I muted the playback, only to find that doing that also results in me not hearing Amplitube's guitar effects OR the line-in, so nothing. I read that this is to do with "Direct Input Monitoring" and that you can disable this on the host program, but at this stage I am not using Amplitube as a VST plugin, just from the EXE, I at least want to make sure I can get it running properly first!

My kX setup is as follows.

Ins n' Outs

Everything muted, except Analog Front, and AC97.

Recording
Again, all faders down and muted, except AC97
AC97
AC97 is set as LineIn, and all other faders are muted except Gain which i needed to higher a little.
kX DSP
By default, AC97 L and R were assigned to asio04 and asio05, so I went with this setting.

Amplitube.

Input Channel was set to 04 (Left)
Output Left is 04
Output RIght is 05
Sample rate: 48000

Anyone have any solutions or ideas?

Maddogg6 · Aug 3, 2007, 01:28 AM

mute the AC97 on the Ins and outs page - its 'hardware monitoring' the input - then mixed with the ASIO output of GR...

If that doesnt do it for you - you may need to make a custom DSP config - lets us know if so, we'll help you out with it...

Maddogg6 · Aug 3, 2007, 01:30 AM

Or - try dragging lines from the top 2 pins of PROLOG (AC97) to any of the ASIO inputs on epilog - if muting ac97 on the Ins and Outs page doesnt work... (its been so long since I actually used the default DSP... :s)

king hippo · Aug 3, 2007, 10:23 AM

Muting the AC97 playback from Ins n Outs results in me hearing nothing at all.
And as I said, by default PROLOG's in0 and in1 are already routed to asio04 and asio05, so I am using Amplitube to record from aso04 (as the guitar signal is monophonic and only in left channel) but using both 04 and 05 as outputs so that it plays stereo. The affected sound plays in both channels, but I can still hear my dry sound in the left channel.

Maddogg6 · Aug 3, 2007, 06:55 PM

Oops - sorry...my mistake... disconnect the 2 top pins of prolog going to X-Routing - thats the path thats mixing the un affected sound from AC97 with the GR2 ASIO output...
You want the AC97 to go ONLY into the ASIO input of EPILOG..

king hippo · Aug 4, 2007, 02:20 AM

That's done it! - Cheers mate.

Aug 2, 2007, 10:29 PM	#1
king hippo DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Amplitube 2 - Two Guitar Signals Simultaneously. Excuse me for joining the forum only to post this, but this has been bugging me all day and I can't seem to get past it. I am running kX project on a Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 Digital, and I'm running Amplitube 2 and connecting my guitar to the line-in on my card using kX's ASIO. My problem is that on Amplitube, I hear both my guitar signal WITH effects on, and the dry signal directly from the line-in at the same time. I managed to quieten the dry sound by turning the "INPUT" fader down, but it's still not enough. I'd assume this was because I was recording AC97 and also had it on playback at the same time, so I muted the playback, only to find that doing that also results in me not hearing Amplitube's guitar effects OR the line-in, so nothing. I read that this is to do with "Direct Input Monitoring" and that you can disable this on the host program, but at this stage I am not using Amplitube as a VST plugin, just from the EXE, I at least want to make sure I can get it running properly first! My kX setup is as follows. Ins n' Outs Everything muted, except Analog Front, and AC97. Recording Again, all faders down and muted, except AC97 AC97 AC97 is set as LineIn, and all other faders are muted except Gain which i needed to higher a little. kX DSP By default, AC97 L and R were assigned to asio04 and asio05, so I went with this setting. Amplitube. Input Channel was set to 04 (Left) Output Left is 04 Output RIght is 05 Sample rate: 48000 Anyone have any solutions or ideas?

Aug 3, 2007, 01:30 AM	#3
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 50	Or - try dragging lines from the top 2 pins of PROLOG (AC97) to any of the ASIO inputs on epilog - if muting ac97 on the Ins and Outs page doesnt work... (its been so long since I actually used the default DSP... :s) Last edited by Maddogg6; Aug 3, 2007 at 01:40 AM.

Aug 3, 2007, 01:28 AM	#2
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 50	mute the AC97 on the Ins and outs page - its 'hardware monitoring' the input - then mixed with the ASIO output of GR... If that doesnt do it for you - you may need to make a custom DSP config - lets us know if so, we'll help you out with it...

Aug 3, 2007, 10:23 AM	Thread Starter #4
king hippo DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Muting the AC97 playback from Ins n Outs results in me hearing nothing at all. And as I said, by default PROLOG's in0 and in1 are already routed to asio04 and asio05, so I am using Amplitube to record from aso04 (as the guitar signal is monophonic and only in left channel) but using both 04 and 05 as outputs so that it plays stereo. The affected sound plays in both channels, but I can still hear my dry sound in the left channel.

Aug 3, 2007, 06:55 PM	#5
Maddogg6 Tail Razer Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bernyurass, AZ - USA Posts: 4,027 Rep Power: 50	Oops - sorry...my mistake... disconnect the 2 top pins of prolog going to X-Routing - thats the path thats mixing the un affected sound from AC97 with the GR2 ASIO output... You want the AC97 to go ONLY into the ASIO input of EPILOG..

Aug 4, 2007, 02:20 AM	Thread Starter #6
king hippo DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	That's done it! - Cheers mate.