Traktor & Headphones On SB-Live (can I monitor from the Rear?)

pethead · Apr 10, 2005, 07:04 PM

Hello,

..so I have SB-Live installed (SB0220 10k1 [b800]) and "kX Audio Driver (v5.10.0.3537) (full)", running "Traktor Dj Studio (v2.5.3)"

What I want to do is to use my headphones to monitor in Traktor. My Audio Card doesn't have Headphones Out, and I pluged them to the Rear Out. I guess there is a way with KX to send "asio Kx Out" (Traktor monitor) to the Rear of the card some way, but I don't know how to do this. Please somebody help me here, or if there is a better way to do all this?

My Audio Card has the following INs and OUTs:

• Digital Out Jack
• Line In Jack
• Microphone In Jack
• Line Out Jack
• Rear Out Jack

I would really appreciate any kind of response

congrats for the amazing drivers.

Tril · Apr 10, 2005, 07:57 PM

It is easily done. Here is an example.

Let's say you use asio Kx Out 2/3 in Traktor. Open the DSP and connect two lines from the second and third pins of prolog to Analog Rear Left and Analog Rear Right on epilog.

That's it.

pethead · Apr 10, 2005, 08:04 PM

checking it wait

thanks for the response

pethead · Apr 10, 2005, 08:26 PM

it doesn't work yet

look ... in traktor, i have set:

master left (mono): 0: kx out 00
master right: 1: kx out 01

monitor left (mono): 2: kx out 02
monitor right: 3: kx out 03

i did exactly as you said i think, ... but i get sound on the headphones only if i put a tick on "Toggle 'Swap Front and Rear' mode" ... and of course when i get sound on headphones this way .. i don't get sound on speakers

i guess girls can't do much without a help

can you please tell me what i have done wrong ?
thank you

Tril · Apr 10, 2005, 09:53 PM

I have another suggestion. Connect a Peak plugin to prolog to the second and third pin. Double click on it to use it. Now play something in Traktor, monitor it and see if you get a signal on the Peak plugin.

If you don't get a signal that would mean that the problem is in Traktor (a
checkbox that needs to be checked is not or some other configuration mistake).

I have never used Traktor so I don't know how this specific program works.

IMPORTANT :

[color=yellow]I made a mistake in my explanation in my first post. Sorry. I confused two words. When I said prolog I should have said FXBus. You need to connect FXBus second and third pins to the Analog Rear. That should work.[/color]
[color=#ffff00][/color]
[color=white]Again, I am sorry. I was using the ProFX plugins and I did not remember the right plugin name.[/color]

pethead · Apr 10, 2005, 10:05 PM

i am still online ... checkin it ... actually i have been trying all this since about 5 hours ago.

thanks for your help

pethead · Apr 10, 2005, 10:38 PM

i did exactly as you said about the fx bus... work but only for one channel .. that is weird... i was happy for just 1 second. i have noticed kx drivers drivers behaving weird .. like the one monent they do it the other they don't. at first i got only left channel working via headphones, the other none.

do u think it is couse i am drinking gordons ?

but i can tell u i have set kx with cubase sx 2 and works fine ...

also another thing ... i can use my external mixer "numark dm1175" it is an old model comparing to the nowadays' mixers but it is an amazing machine ... just consider i have bought this about 10 years ago for about 1000 euro. .. there is an option in traktor to set using external mixer and give different kx outputs for each deck. but i think things don't seam to work for me ... am still happy listening to some house music here

any ideas ?

pethead · Apr 10, 2005, 11:34 PM

any experts ? i am not asking something very difficult ... anyway ...

sad

Tril · Apr 10, 2005, 11:48 PM

I can't help you more, sorry. I don't work in music and I've never used a mixer in my life. So I can't help with the mixer question.

I don't know what is wrong. It is always harder to resolve problems when you are not there in person.

Out of curiosity, what will you use it for when you get it working.

pethead · Apr 11, 2005, 12:09 AM

dj set testing on pc.

actually when you do dj-sets you use headphones to preview what ur about to mix out ... that is happening only on ur headphones.

I have done much greater works on cubase than this easy thing.

TravelRec. · Apr 11, 2005, 06:42 AM

Hi pethead!

Post some screenshots on the net, give us the link - this may be helpful to help you. kX is not the problem i think (nor the gordons)

...

pethead · Apr 11, 2005, 11:01 AM

ok so ...

click here this is the traktor setup window and here is when "Use External Mixer" has a tick.
This is what the DSP windows looks like at the moment. click

As I said ... at first i would use the headphones pluged in Audio Card's rear output in order to monitor in traktor. Then I thought to use external mixer and actually have the front and rear seperately on the external mixer so i can monitor using the external mixer's monitor. So what is left to be done is to have "Deck A" set to Front and "Deck B" set to Rear.

If you help me do that, then I will be able to mix without the mouse on this <<traktor>>...

... so what should i do on the DSP ?

TravelRec. · Apr 12, 2005, 06:44 AM

Clear your DSP window. Load 2x src plugins (ProFX), set one src to FXBus 4/5, the second to 6/7, switch in traktor to the same kX outs (so 4/5 for master / 6/7 for monitor). Add a k1lt plugin (ProFX) and connect the src 1 directly the upper 2 inputs and src 2 with the next pair below. Open k1lt and set the upper output to "analog front" and the 2nd to "analog rear". Now your different traktor outputs appearing separated on front/rear. Don´t forget to save the config.

pethead · Apr 13, 2005, 09:16 PM

well thanks very much for your help ... i will be back asking more when i get to need some help soon

thank you

laserbeak · Jul 30, 2005, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TravelRec.

Clear your DSP window. Load 2x src plugins (ProFX), set one src to FXBus 4/5, the second to 6/7, switch in traktor to the same kX outs (so 4/5 for master / 6/7 for monitor). Add a k1lt plugin (ProFX) and connect the src 1 directly the upper 2 inputs and src 2 with the next pair below. Open k1lt and set the upper output to "analog front" and the 2nd to "analog rear". Now your different traktor outputs appearing separated on front/rear. Don´t forget to save the config.

can you make a picture of this? i cant seem to follow yyour instructions. src wont connect to fxbus

btw i think the best way to route the audio in traktor is with the asio driver i think the lady had failed to mention that

laserbeak · Jul 30, 2005, 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pethead

i guess girls can't do much without a help

heh bull!! ive been trying to figure this out for months!!!!

SUN · Jul 30, 2005, 06:31 PM

Hi pethead,
Hi laserbeak,

if you really need Help 4 this DJ-Setup please PM me and i'll give you the best config 4 Traktor because i use it 4 prof. DJing!

I think about a permanent link 4 instructions, configs and Pics on my DJ-Homepage 4 every KX-DJ-User... (only if there are enough inquire)

(My Gerlish is perfekt... :-)

SUN (always shine on you and me!)

laserbeak · Jul 30, 2005, 06:54 PM

will do sun!!
whats gerlish

laserbeak · Jul 31, 2005, 12:38 AM

"waits anxiously"

SUN · Jul 31, 2005, 01:38 PM

Hi laserbeak,

Gerlish is my own word 4 writing in engLISH like i think in GERman...
Check your PM!

SUN

laserbeak · Jul 31, 2005, 03:10 PM

hehe

Apr 10, 2005, 07:04 PM	#1
pethead DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	Traktor & Headphones On SB-Live (can I monitor from the Rear?) Hello, ..so I have SB-Live installed (SB0220 10k1 [b800]) and "kX Audio Driver (v5.10.0.3537) (full)", running "Traktor Dj Studio (v2.5.3)" What I want to do is to use my headphones to monitor in Traktor. My Audio Card doesn't have Headphones Out, and I pluged them to the Rear Out. I guess there is a way with KX to send "asio Kx Out" (Traktor monitor) to the Rear of the card some way, but I don't know how to do this. Please somebody help me here, or if there is a better way to do all this? My Audio Card has the following INs and OUTs: • Digital Out Jack • Line In Jack • Microphone In Jack • Line Out Jack • Rear Out Jack I would really appreciate any kind of response congrats for the amazing drivers.

Apr 10, 2005, 09:53 PM	#5
Tril S-3D enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,676 Rep Power: 64 System Specs	I have another suggestion. Connect a Peak plugin to prolog to the second and third pin. Double click on it to use it. Now play something in Traktor, monitor it and see if you get a signal on the Peak plugin. If you don't get a signal that would mean that the problem is in Traktor (a checkbox that needs to be checked is not or some other configuration mistake). I have never used Traktor so I don't know how this specific program works. IMPORTANT : [color=yellow]I made a mistake in my explanation in my first post. Sorry. I confused two words. When I said prolog I should have said FXBus. You need to connect FXBus second and third pins to the Analog Rear. That should work.[/color] [color=#ffff00][/color] [color=white]Again, I am sorry. I was using the ProFX plugins and I did not remember the right plugin name.[/color] Last edited by Tril; Apr 10, 2005 at 09:58 PM.

Apr 11, 2005, 06:42 AM	#11
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 0	Hi pethead! Post some screenshots on the net, give us the link - this may be helpful to help you. kX is not the problem i think (nor the gordons) ... __________________ Always take a look behind.

Apr 12, 2005, 06:44 AM	#13
TravelRec. Alternative Audioproductions Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Germany / Sachsen-Anhalt Posts: 1,710 Rep Power: 0	Clear your DSP window. Load 2x src plugins (ProFX), set one src to FXBus 4/5, the second to 6/7, switch in traktor to the same kX outs (so 4/5 for master / 6/7 for monitor). Add a k1lt plugin (ProFX) and connect the src 1 directly the upper 2 inputs and src 2 with the next pair below. Open k1lt and set the upper output to "analog front" and the 2nd to "analog rear". Now your different traktor outputs appearing separated on front/rear. Don´t forget to save the config. __________________ Always take a look behind.

Apr 10, 2005, 07:57 PM	#2
Tril S-3D enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,676 Rep Power: 64 System Specs	It is easily done. Here is an example. Let's say you use asio Kx Out 2/3 in Traktor. Open the DSP and connect two lines from the second and third pins of prolog to Analog Rear Left and Analog Rear Right on epilog. That's it.

Apr 10, 2005, 08:04 PM	Thread Starter #3
pethead DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	checking it wait thanks for the response

Apr 10, 2005, 08:26 PM	Thread Starter #4
pethead DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	it doesn't work yet look ... in traktor, i have set: master left (mono): 0: kx out 00 master right: 1: kx out 01 monitor left (mono): 2: kx out 02 monitor right: 3: kx out 03 i did exactly as you said i think, ... but i get sound on the headphones only if i put a tick on "Toggle 'Swap Front and Rear' mode" ... and of course when i get sound on headphones this way .. i don't get sound on speakers i guess girls can't do much without a help can you please tell me what i have done wrong ? thank you

Apr 10, 2005, 10:05 PM	Thread Starter #6
pethead DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	i am still online ... checkin it ... actually i have been trying all this since about 5 hours ago. thanks for your help

Apr 10, 2005, 10:38 PM	Thread Starter #7
pethead DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	i did exactly as you said about the fx bus... work but only for one channel .. that is weird... i was happy for just 1 second. i have noticed kx drivers drivers behaving weird .. like the one monent they do it the other they don't. at first i got only left channel working via headphones, the other none. do u think it is couse i am drinking gordons ? but i can tell u i have set kx with cubase sx 2 and works fine ... also another thing ... i can use my external mixer "numark dm1175" it is an old model comparing to the nowadays' mixers but it is an amazing machine ... just consider i have bought this about 10 years ago for about 1000 euro. .. there is an option in traktor to set using external mixer and give different kx outputs for each deck. but i think things don't seam to work for me ... am still happy listening to some house music here any ideas ?

Apr 10, 2005, 11:34 PM	Thread Starter #8
pethead DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	any experts ? i am not asking something very difficult ... anyway ... sad

Apr 10, 2005, 11:48 PM	#9
Tril S-3D enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,676 Rep Power: 64 System Specs	I can't help you more, sorry. I don't work in music and I've never used a mixer in my life. So I can't help with the mixer question. I don't know what is wrong. It is always harder to resolve problems when you are not there in person. Out of curiosity, what will you use it for when you get it working.

Apr 11, 2005, 12:09 AM	Thread Starter #10
pethead DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	dj set testing on pc. actually when you do dj-sets you use headphones to preview what ur about to mix out ... that is happening only on ur headphones. I have done much greater works on cubase than this easy thing.

Apr 11, 2005, 11:01 AM	Thread Starter #12
pethead DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	ok so ... click here this is the traktor setup window and here is when "Use External Mixer" has a tick. This is what the DSP windows looks like at the moment. click As I said ... at first i would use the headphones pluged in Audio Card's rear output in order to monitor in traktor. Then I thought to use external mixer and actually have the front and rear seperately on the external mixer so i can monitor using the external mixer's monitor. So what is left to be done is to have "Deck A" set to Front and "Deck B" set to Rear. If you help me do that, then I will be able to mix without the mouse on this <<traktor>>... ... so what should i do on the DSP ?

Apr 13, 2005, 09:16 PM	Thread Starter #14
pethead DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	well thanks very much for your help ... i will be back asking more when i get to need some help soon thank you

Jul 30, 2005, 06:31 PM	#17
SUN DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Made in Germany Posts: 50 Rep Power: 0	Hi pethead, Hi laserbeak, if you really need Help 4 this DJ-Setup please PM me and i'll give you the best config 4 Traktor because i use it 4 prof. DJing! I think about a permanent link 4 instructions, configs and Pics on my DJ-Homepage 4 every KX-DJ-User... (only if there are enough inquire) (My Gerlish is perfekt... :-) SUN (always shine on you and me!)

Jul 30, 2005, 06:54 PM	#18
laserbeak DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 153 Rep Power: 0	will do sun!! whats gerlish

Jul 31, 2005, 12:38 AM	#19
laserbeak DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 153 Rep Power: 0	"waits anxiously"

Jul 31, 2005, 01:38 PM	#20
SUN DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Made in Germany Posts: 50 Rep Power: 0	Hi laserbeak, Gerlish is my own word 4 writing in engLISH like i think in GERman... Check your PM! SUN

Jul 31, 2005, 03:10 PM	#21
laserbeak DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 153 Rep Power: 0	hehe