9800XT 128MB RAM Bios files for 9800SE/NP/PRO

Blackboost · Sep 30, 2004, 05:39 AM

Update:

I just installed the 4.9 Omega's on my PC and it recognized the the 9800SE as a 9800XT! This was made possible by the patch that me972 sent me to fix the Device ID problem I had (thanks to a mistake I made during the flashing process). Kudos to me972 for helping me on this one!

me972 · Oct 1, 2004, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackboost

Update:

I just installed the 4.9 Omega's on my PC and it recognized the the 9800SE as a 9800XT! This was made possible by the patch that me972 sent me to fix the Device ID problem I had (thanks to a mistake I made during the flashing process). Kudos to me972 for helping me on this one!

your welcome :-)

DjFlame · Oct 1, 2004, 08:28 PM

does the ammount of ram makes a diff. in 3d mark score?

me972 · Oct 1, 2004, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DjFlame

does the ammount of ram makes a diff. in 3d mark score?

system ram or Graphics card memory??

either ways I dont think so... at lease not on 3Dmark03..its optimized for 128MB cards... thoes were the top of the line cards in those days... :-)
not so sure about 3DMark 05....on that you'll have to open another thread..

PMiki · Oct 2, 2004, 12:23 AM

I have an XpertVision 9800se card.

And I have asked me972 to do a XT bios to me and he did.
My +4 pipes does not work but witout them I can co my card more with tis bios like the original so now my card run at 430/387 and sore 4427 3Dmark03 and it much beter like the old sore 4231(420/350) and this clock not was stabile.

So thank you me972 wery mutch!

I will give this bois to my Hungarian friends.

PMiki

me972 · Oct 2, 2004, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PMiki

I have an XpertVision 9800se card.

And I have asked me972 to do a XT bios to me and he did.
My +4 pipes does not work but witout them I can co my card more with tis bios like the original so now my card run at 430/387 and sore 4427 3Dmark03 and it much beter like the old sore 4231(420/350) and this clock not was stabile.

So thank you me972 wery mutch!

I will give this bois to my Hungarian friends.

PMiki

your Welcome

muddyfox470 · Oct 2, 2004, 04:56 PM

hi, could you just keep me up to date please,

is it now possible to get a 9800se aiw card up to 9800xt speeds? and which bios would be best for my powercolor 9800se (256bit) 128mb card?

http://www.tul.com.tw/global/product...at2=6&cat3=259

i am at the moment unsure about what memory it uses.

also would the rev. 3 arctic cooler be sufficient and suitable for the card?

thanks in advance (much appreciated)

Ian

me972 · Oct 2, 2004, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muddyfox470

hi, could you just keep me up to date please,

is it now possible to get a 9800se aiw card up to 9800xt speeds? and which bios would be best for my powercolor 9800se (256bit) 128mb card?

http://www.tul.com.tw/global/product...at2=6&cat3=259

i am at the moment unsure about what memory it uses.

also would the rev. 3 arctic cooler be sufficient and suitable for the card?

thanks in advance (much appreciated)

Ian

as for the Artic Cooling Rev 3 fitting your Card - I have no Idea.. I haven't tried it.

as for converting your AIW SE to XT. - sure its possible if and only if you were lucky enought to get a card with a good set of 4 extra pipe lines.

have you installed OMEGA drivers and tested your card with all 8 pipes enabled under FARCRY or DOOM 3?
have you tested the card under XT clocks???

these are all tests that need to be done before considering an XT flash..

DjFlame · Oct 2, 2004, 09:43 PM

huh?

muddyfox470 · Oct 3, 2004, 11:05 AM

i haven't received it yet, i was just asking questions prior to receiving it!

but so long as the 4 extra pipelines work and i fit a decent cooler (aka arctic cooler rev3) should i be able to clock it at and beyond pro speeds (9800 pro not 9600! lol!)

also which are best? the hacked omega drivers or the hacked catalyst drivers?

cheers ian

daseth · Oct 3, 2004, 12:25 PM

does the se to xt flashing implies more heat? i mean should i cool my board better even though i do not overclock yet?

daseth · Oct 3, 2004, 12:51 PM

me972, i flashed with the modified bios u sent me and it didn't work

. i managed to reflash with the backup so now i'm up and runing but i still want to make my board a 9800XT. Why do u think it did not work? What else can i try? Should i resend u the original bios? Or should i try one of the bioses that worked on other users' boards. I have the xpertvision 9800se with 128MB 256bits 2.8ns HYNIX memory. Thanks!

me972 · Oct 3, 2004, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daseth

me972, i flashed with the modified bios u sent me and it didn't work

. i managed to reflash with the backup so now i'm up and runing but i still want to make my board a 9800XT. Why do u think it did not work? What else can i try? Should i resend u the original bios? Or should i try one of the bioses that worked on other users' boards. I have the xpertvision 9800se with 128MB 256bits 2.8ns HYNIX memory. Thanks!

I sent you a BIOS that had much tighter timings then what you had...that was exactly the same as a pure XT ... seems it was too much..
resend the bios and I'll redo it for you.

rgds
me972

me972 · Oct 3, 2004, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daseth

does the se to xt flashing implies more heat? i mean should i cool my board better even though i do not overclock yet?

yes - since in most cases the voltages are different and the timings are tighter and the frequencies are higher... so this means more heat..

muddyfox470 · Oct 3, 2004, 05:53 PM

me972 can i ask when and for how much to you buy your 9800se?

how u finding the powercolor, decent? what ram did yours have?

cheers ian

me972 · Oct 3, 2004, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muddyfox470

me972 can i ask when and for how much to you buy your 9800se?

how u finding the powercolor, decent? what ram did yours have?

cheers ian

I baught mine about a year ago for almost 300$
when a pro and XT were over 400 here where I live..
so I had to take the risk
as for the RAM I have - its 2.8 hynix. but I 've been using a samsong bios on it.
found it to be alittle faster then most.
until a month ago when I found a hynix based XT BIOS and moded my original bios to similer timings as that and got a better bios.

as for finding a PowerColor like mine... I think newegg have this moddle.
since its old and PowerColor don't make it any more.

daseth · Oct 3, 2004, 10:29 PM

worked perfectly! 10x a lot, me972! i might send u my brother's bios (has the same board as i do) if he will agree with the flashing.
I reflashed with the original bios, though, because i tried the nature test in 3dm2k3(no artifacts) and the memories and the gpu radiator were to hot for my taste(don't have extra coolin' yet). But as soon as i cool my board i'll be smokin'

Again: GREAT work, dude!

me972 · Oct 3, 2004, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daseth

worked perfectly! 10x a lot, me972! i might send u my brother's bios (has the same board as i do) if he will agree with the flashing.
I reflashed with the original bios, though, because i tried the nature test in 3dm2k3(no artifacts) and the memories and the gpu radiator were to hot for my taste(don't have extra coolin' yet). But as soon as i cool my board i'll be smokin'

Again: GREAT work, dude!

your welcome... keep us posted as to the scores you get.

and make sure to upgrade the cooling...

Deathwing · Oct 4, 2004, 02:47 AM

I wonder whether my YUAN 9800se can be flashed?
It is running fine with 8 pipes with no artefact
I heard that the quality of a YUAN 9800se is worse than a powercolor one...
please help... thanks a lot
www.yuan.com.tw

Nicky-chan · Oct 4, 2004, 09:17 AM

Hi im wanting to flash my 9800 pro HiS card. Im not possitive but i think it has 2.8ns ram. Ive overclocked it to 420core and 370 or 380 mem cant remember and wondering what bios to use or if not these were to get ones that work with my card.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...161-109&depa=1
I have a newer version with briged ramsinks better surface area.

Please help if you have any clues.

oh one last thing im pritty sure this card is just a ATI radeon with modded cooling and thats it. If im wroung correct me.

me972 · Oct 4, 2004, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elclair

Hi im wanting to flash my 9800 pro HiS card. Im not possitive but i think it has 2.8ns ram. Ive overclocked it to 420core and 370 or 380 mem cant remember and wondering what bios to use or if not these were to get ones that work with my card.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...161-109&depa=1
I have a newer version with briged ramsinks better surface area.

Please help if you have any clues.

oh one last thing im pritty sure this card is just a ATI radeon with modded cooling and thats it. If im wroung correct me.

send me a copy of your BIOS' back it up and mail it to me972@hotmail.com

rgds
me972

me972 · Oct 4, 2004, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deathwing

I wonder whether my YUAN 9800se can be flashed?
It is running fine with 8 pipes with no artefact
I heard that the quality of a YUAN 9800se is worse than a powercolor one...
please help... thanks a lot
www.yuan.com.tw

you too... make a copy of your BIOS and mail it to me..
I'll mod it for you..

rgds me972

Deathwing · Oct 4, 2004, 02:24 PM

is it the original 9800se BIOS?
the card is not with me
i will send it ASAP though
thanks a lot!

me972 · Oct 4, 2004, 03:17 PM

yes...backup the original SE bios and send me a copy.

eggs420 · Oct 4, 2004, 03:37 PM

What are you doing in the bios mods? Is this still considered safe/worthwhile only for r360'ers? I've got an early pro, and am running right now at 410/368..Memory is sinked but doesn't clock too high til things start artifacting..Got two case fans front mounted going right over the card, 3 psu fans, exhaust, etc..Hit the wall with the memory there.

me972 · Oct 4, 2004, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eggs420

What are you doing in the bios mods? Is this still considered safe/worthwhile only for r360'ers? I've got an early pro, and am running right now at 410/368..Memory is sinked but doesn't clock too high til things start artifacting..Got two case fans front mounted going right over the card, 3 psu fans, exhaust, etc..Hit the wall with the memory there.

first of all a PRO/SE bios can be moded to XT with no timings changed at all and then your card is basicly recognized as an XT but you get nothing out of it accept some driver optimizations that an XT gets. - in this case nothing bad can happen to the card cause nothing changed.

as for a preformance mod - this means that the clock rates are higher - to XT speeds and the timings are tighter... is the card in this case is not cooling upgraded then it can burn out.. this is why many tests must be done before the mod
as for 360 or 350 cores - there is not difference!!!!

rgds me972

p.s. sorry for ending it with the !!!! its just that I've red many replis from peope that don't understand a damm thing teling other people not to mod even before they tested the card properly..

Nicky-chan · Oct 5, 2004, 02:53 AM

Im sending u an email with my bios now. Thanks alot. =D

eggs420 · Oct 5, 2004, 03:50 AM

Thanks for the explaination..I'm up for testing this finally. Got a 9800pro -> xt bios for a BBA w/samsung ram that runs at something like say 400/360?

Should I send you mine?

Deathwing · Oct 5, 2004, 08:52 AM

we cant flash it unless we can reach 415/732 right?
so how do I make sure I wont burn it since 9800se dont come with thermal sensor?

me972 · Oct 5, 2004, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deathwing

we cant flash it unless we can reach 415/732 right?
so how do I make sure I wont burn it since 9800se dont come with thermal sensor?

well its not true... cause your card can be moded with an XT bios thats been clocked down to the speeds that your card can hold.
in any case even with the slower speeds you'll get better speeds then the original bios you had..
not to mention that some times an XT bios will enable your card to reach higher clock rates since the voltage settings change thus the card can reach better speeds...

rgds
me972

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Oct 4, 2004, 09:17 AM	#230
Nicky-chan formally Elclair Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Arizona,Pheonix Posts: 360 Rep Power: 0	Hi im wanting to flash my 9800 pro HiS card. Im not possitive but i think it has 2.8ns ram. Ive overclocked it to 420core and 370 or 380 mem cant remember and wondering what bios to use or if not these were to get ones that work with my card. http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...161-109&depa=1 I have a newer version with briged ramsinks better surface area. Please help if you have any clues. oh one last thing im pritty sure this card is just a ATI radeon with modded cooling and thats it. If im wroung correct me. __________________ Last edited by Elclair; Oct 4, 2004 at 09:26 AM.

Oct 4, 2004, 03:17 PM	#234
me972 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 689 Rep Power: 0	yes...backup the original SE bios and send me a copy. __________________ *Modding is heavenly - 9800SE/PRO/NP to XT guide*

Oct 4, 2004, 03:37 PM	#235
eggs420 my bud > yours Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: chicago Posts: 399 Rep Power: 0	What are you doing in the bios mods? Is this still considered safe/worthwhile only for r360'ers? I've got an early pro, and am running right now at 410/368..Memory is sinked but doesn't clock too high til things start artifacting..Got two case fans front mounted going right over the card, 3 psu fans, exhaust, etc..Hit the wall with the memory there. __________________ AMD64 2800+ // Chaintech VNF3-250 // 2X512mb PDI ddr400 2-3-2-5 // 80gb 7200RPM WD w/8mb cache // Leadtek 6800GT // 144kbit IDSL Clan -=CCC=- Admin 69.31.96.68 BF2 PUBLIC RANKED SERVER 205.218.65.236 BF2 DEMO SERVER

Sep 30, 2004, 05:39 AM	#211
Blackboost -=[DHzer0point Author]=- Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 0 Rep Power: 0	Update: I just installed the 4.9 Omega's on my PC and it recognized the the 9800SE as a 9800XT! This was made possible by the patch that me972 sent me to fix the Device ID problem I had (thanks to a mistake I made during the flashing process). Kudos to me972 for helping me on this one!

Oct 2, 2004, 12:23 AM	#215
PMiki DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	I have an XpertVision 9800se card. And I have asked me972 to do a XT bios to me and he did. My +4 pipes does not work but witout them I can co my card more with tis bios like the original so now my card run at 430/387 and sore 4427 3Dmark03 and it much beter like the old sore 4231(420/350) and this clock not was stabile. So thank you me972 wery mutch! I will give this bois to my Hungarian friends. PMiki

Oct 2, 2004, 04:56 PM	#217
muddyfox470 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	hi, could you just keep me up to date please, is it now possible to get a 9800se aiw card up to 9800xt speeds? and which bios would be best for my powercolor 9800se (256bit) 128mb card? http://www.tul.com.tw/global/product...at2=6&cat3=259 i am at the moment unsure about what memory it uses. also would the rev. 3 arctic cooler be sufficient and suitable for the card? thanks in advance (much appreciated) Ian

Oct 3, 2004, 11:05 AM	#220
muddyfox470 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	i haven't received it yet, i was just asking questions prior to receiving it! but so long as the 4 extra pipelines work and i fit a decent cooler (aka arctic cooler rev3) should i be able to clock it at and beyond pro speeds (9800 pro not 9600! lol!) also which are best? the hacked omega drivers or the hacked catalyst drivers? cheers ian

Oct 3, 2004, 12:25 PM	#221
daseth DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	does the se to xt flashing implies more heat? i mean should i cool my board better even though i do not overclock yet?

Oct 3, 2004, 12:51 PM	#222
daseth DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	me972, i flashed with the modified bios u sent me and it didn't work . i managed to reflash with the backup so now i'm up and runing but i still want to make my board a 9800XT. Why do u think it did not work? What else can i try? Should i resend u the original bios? Or should i try one of the bioses that worked on other users' boards. I have the xpertvision 9800se with 128MB 256bits 2.8ns HYNIX memory. Thanks!

Oct 3, 2004, 05:53 PM	#225
muddyfox470 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	me972 can i ask when and for how much to you buy your 9800se? how u finding the powercolor, decent? what ram did yours have? cheers ian

Oct 3, 2004, 10:29 PM	#227
daseth DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	worked perfectly! 10x a lot, me972! i might send u my brother's bios (has the same board as i do) if he will agree with the flashing. I reflashed with the original bios, though, because i tried the nature test in 3dm2k3(no artifacts) and the memories and the gpu radiator were to hot for my taste(don't have extra coolin' yet). But as soon as i cool my board i'll be smokin' Again: GREAT work, dude!

Oct 4, 2004, 02:47 AM	#229
Deathwing DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	I wonder whether my YUAN 9800se can be flashed? It is running fine with 8 pipes with no artefact I heard that the quality of a YUAN 9800se is worse than a powercolor one... please help... thanks a lot www.yuan.com.tw

Oct 4, 2004, 02:24 PM	#233
Deathwing DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	is it the original 9800se BIOS? the card is not with me i will send it ASAP though thanks a lot!

Oct 5, 2004, 02:53 AM	#237
Nicky-chan formally Elclair Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Arizona,Pheonix Posts: 360 Rep Power: 0	Im sending u an email with my bios now. Thanks alot. =D __________________

Oct 5, 2004, 03:50 AM	#238
eggs420 my bud > yours Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: chicago Posts: 399 Rep Power: 0	Thanks for the explaination..I'm up for testing this finally. Got a 9800pro -> xt bios for a BBA w/samsung ram that runs at something like say 400/360? Should I send you mine? __________________ AMD64 2800+ // Chaintech VNF3-250 // 2X512mb PDI ddr400 2-3-2-5 // 80gb 7200RPM WD w/8mb cache // Leadtek 6800GT // 144kbit IDSL Clan -=CCC=- Admin 69.31.96.68 BF2 PUBLIC RANKED SERVER 205.218.65.236 BF2 DEMO SERVER

Oct 5, 2004, 08:52 AM	#239
Deathwing DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	we cant flash it unless we can reach 415/732 right? so how do I make sure I wont burn it since 9800se dont come with thermal sensor?