Help with Audigy 1 OEM

Fatuck · Jan 26, 2003, 02:55 AM

Hello,

I bought an OEM Audigy card a couple weeks ago and I've been having a couple small problems with it. I've tried using both the official Audigy drivers (the .253s), and the hacked Audigy 2 drivers (the .323s) but I still have the same problem. When I use Winamp, my MP3s have a tendency to skip forward about a 1/2 second to a second while playing on occasion (which is really, really annoying) and when I play Battlefield 1942 I've noticed if I use Hardware accelerator for sound, I get 63 channels, and not 64 like I would get with software... is this to be expected or should it be the full 64? Also, I've noticed BF1942 did crash on the old drivers with high sound settings. I've also gone and tweaked sound acceleration in dxdiag... but, I can't get the MP3 glitch to stop. Also, I get cracking/popping sounds frequently and how would I go about getting rid of them or is it just the fact I've got some really inexpensive 5.1 speakers.

My full on system specs are as follows (for more indepth knowledge of what you're dealing with)

P4 1.5ghz cpu
Abit TH-7 Raid motherboard (w/Intel 4.30.1006 drivers)
-- High Point Raid Array HPT370 UDMA/ATA100 Controller (1.0.94.21616 drivers)
512MB PC-800 RDRAM (4 128 sticks)
PNY GF4TI4400 video (w/Detonator 42.70s)
SB Audigy OEM sound (w/Hacked Audigy 2 .323 drivers)
WD 80GB 7200RPM ATA100 SE HDD w/8MB cache (partitioned into 2.44 gb, 17.0 gb, and 54.9 gb drives) running on ATA1
Maxtor 7200RPM 30GB HDD running on raid
WD 60GB 5400RPM ATA100 HDD running on raid
Plextor 12/10/32A CD-RW
Pioneer 16x DVD drive
K-World Conexant 878A Tv Tuner
US Robotics 56K modem
D-Link DFE 530-TX+ NIC

OS: Win2k SP3 w/all patches

Any help would be greatly appreciated...

Fatuck

ToshiroOC · Jan 26, 2003, 03:05 AM

The skipping sounds like bad fragmentation of the files - do you have this occuring after a complete defrag of your hard drive?

DallasStar · Jan 26, 2003, 03:47 AM

The skipping problem.... I had it too... but you can still enjoy your mp3s cuz they'll play fine on WMP

(it only occurs with winamp)

Baskins · Jan 26, 2003, 04:59 AM

Fatty, I have a very similar setup. I'm on a Audigy 1 OEM on Win2k (just SP2, no compelling reason to jump to SP3....yet) using the hacked Audigy 2 drivers (283's). Didn't see a need to go to the 323's since the first ones worked great.

I'm a huge BF player. I've experienced the popping thing only once in game since installing the hacked drivers about 2 months ago. A simple reboot and I haven't seen it since and I play almost nightly. I too have only 63 channels listed when I enable h/w accel in game but I figured that was normal and didn't pursue it. When I was on actual Audigy 1 drivers I only had 32 channels listed so I figured this was better and left it at that. They're really excellent with positional sounds.

With regards to to MP3's, I used to use Winamp but once I discovered Win Media Player I haven't looked back. It so kicks ass over Winamp. Seriously, try it. Fire up the same song in media player and winamp. Make sure to enable SRS in Media Player. Then flip back and forth. No contest. And if it's just a matter of a fancy plug-in for Winamp to compete, well I have yet to be able to find a "free" one that can even come close to the quality that WMP puts out. I not pro-MS at all....far from it actually, but I can't deny that they are better with this one. Oh, and I don't get any skipping or popping or pooping with WMP. I haven't tested Winamp long enough to determine if there are issues. But I hardly use it. Couldn't hurt to just experiment. Do you get the same hiccups in WMP?

I also use headphones *exclusively* on my system so if there were ANY poppings or skippings I'd hear it.

DallasStar · Jan 26, 2003, 05:10 AM

Just to offer a different opinion... imo, the SRS plugin sounds distorted ... HOWEVER, with desktop speakers, the SRS plugin does sound nicer. Also... you overlooked a fact: there's an SRS plugin for Winamp... (made by SRS Labs)

This is just my opinion...

(i like winamp now cuz i don't get the skipping since i switched to santacruz

)

Baskins · Jan 26, 2003, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DallasStar
Also... you overlooked a fact: there's an SRS plugin for Winamp... (made by SRS Labs)

I went to SRS Labs' site and the only plug-in I found was a non-free addition for WMP, which doesn't interest me. I then did a full site search for any reference to the word 'Winamp' and I get a "No documents found". I found a couple of review sites that mentioned the WOW plugin for Winamp and they had a link: http://www.wowthing.com/products/pro...gplugin.shtml, which conveniently returns a 404 Object Not Found.

You find me the plug-in (and it has to be free otherwise I won't bother) and I'll give it an honest go. But right now, for me, that's the difference in what I'll use for my listening.

Now, if only WMP could play OGG's

Fatty, sorry for what looks like a thread-jacking........not intended.

RIV@NVX · Jan 26, 2003, 09:50 AM

This FAQ can help you about WA2 issue (upgrade to 2.81b first) - disable hardware mixing in Preferences\Output\DirectSound output v2.2.x

Matth · Jan 26, 2003, 01:08 PM

WMP and OGG? - you did ask....
http://tobias.everwicked.com/oggds.htm

(from the VORBIS software page!)
OggDS Direct Show Filters
2002-07-19 20:06:51.02

OggDS is a collection of Direct Show filters for Windows Media Player that supports Ogg streams and Vorbis audio playback and encoding, as well as splitting and multiplexing.

Baskins · Jan 29, 2003, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matth
WMP and OGG? - you did ask....
http://tobias.everwicked.com/oggds.htm

(from the VORBIS software page!)
OggDS Direct Show Filters
2002-07-19 20:06:51.02

OggDS is a collection of Direct Show filters for Windows Media Player that supports Ogg streams and Vorbis audio playback and encoding, as well as splitting and multiplexing.

R0x0R! I must try.

Tried --- I can't get it to work on WMP 7.1 (in Win2k). I didn't see any reference to a specific version requirement other than the changelog indicating a fix for WMP 9. Bummer.

Matth · Jan 29, 2003, 08:29 PM

The other one (unmaintaned) may be effective for other versions - perhaps

http://mediaxw.sourceforge.net/Enchanced/downloads.htm

Not sure, actually, how these things apply - I really must give OGG a bit of a try - I'm still using LAME

Baskins · Jan 31, 2003, 04:49 AM

Matth, thanks for all the digging. Seems the sourceforge site has stopped development and has all redirects point to the Tobias DirectShow Filter site. So I mailed Tobias with my symptoms and we'll see if he has anything to say. Would really be kewl if I could get that working.

I rip all my OGG's using CDex http://www.cdex.n3.net/ as it comes with a built-in OGG encoder (in addition to a Lame encoder, among a bunch of others). Nice way to do a head to head between the two. Try it. Sound pretty good considering I can only play them on Winamp...for the time being.

My motivation is the "openness" of Vorbis, whereas the MP3 sharks are now conveniently demanding royalties for *their* so-called creation. I wish the industry (hand-held MP3 makers, etc.) would make a push to more OGG. Get some literature out there and get the public (Kazaa, etc.) to recognize it as a viable alternative.

If I could develop software worth a crapper, that's one place I'd try and make a presence.

Fatuck · Feb 3, 2003, 05:59 AM

Hey,

I've tested playing MP3s in Winamp, Winamp3, and WMP 9 and I still get skipping in all of them. The hard drive partition thet mp3s are on has near perfect defragmentation, as do the rest of the drives. Also, the drives are all formatted into the NTFS file system. Any idea what to do?

ToshiroOC · Feb 3, 2003, 06:03 AM

Fatuck, does the skipping happen in all of the mp3s, or the majority, or a rare few? Do you often get drive r/w errors? Are the skips in consistent places in the songs? Are the skips reproduceable?

RIV@NVX · Feb 3, 2003, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fatuck
Hey,

I've tested playing MP3s in Winamp, Winamp3, and WMP 9 and I still get skipping in all of them. The hard drive partition thet mp3s are on has near perfect defragmentation, as do the rest of the drives. Also, the drives are all formatted into the NTFS file system. Any idea what to do?

http://foobar2000.hydrogenaudio.org/ - try this player, using:
1. Kernel Streaming;
2. DirectSound without Hardware Mixing;
3. WaveOut

Report what happens here.

Jan 26, 2003, 02:55 AM	#1
Fatuck DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Berkeley, CA, USA Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Help with Audigy 1 OEM Hello, I bought an OEM Audigy card a couple weeks ago and I've been having a couple small problems with it. I've tried using both the official Audigy drivers (the .253s), and the hacked Audigy 2 drivers (the .323s) but I still have the same problem. When I use Winamp, my MP3s have a tendency to skip forward about a 1/2 second to a second while playing on occasion (which is really, really annoying) and when I play Battlefield 1942 I've noticed if I use Hardware accelerator for sound, I get 63 channels, and not 64 like I would get with software... is this to be expected or should it be the full 64? Also, I've noticed BF1942 did crash on the old drivers with high sound settings. I've also gone and tweaked sound acceleration in dxdiag... but, I can't get the MP3 glitch to stop. Also, I get cracking/popping sounds frequently and how would I go about getting rid of them or is it just the fact I've got some really inexpensive 5.1 speakers. My full on system specs are as follows (for more indepth knowledge of what you're dealing with) P4 1.5ghz cpu Abit TH-7 Raid motherboard (w/Intel 4.30.1006 drivers) -- High Point Raid Array HPT370 UDMA/ATA100 Controller (1.0.94.21616 drivers) 512MB PC-800 RDRAM (4 128 sticks) PNY GF4TI4400 video (w/Detonator 42.70s) SB Audigy OEM sound (w/Hacked Audigy 2 .323 drivers) WD 80GB 7200RPM ATA100 SE HDD w/8MB cache (partitioned into 2.44 gb, 17.0 gb, and 54.9 gb drives) running on ATA1 Maxtor 7200RPM 30GB HDD running on raid WD 60GB 5400RPM ATA100 HDD running on raid Plextor 12/10/32A CD-RW Pioneer 16x DVD drive K-World Conexant 878A Tv Tuner US Robotics 56K modem D-Link DFE 530-TX+ NIC OS: Win2k SP3 w/all patches Any help would be greatly appreciated... Fatuck

Jan 26, 2003, 03:05 AM	#2
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	The skipping sounds like bad fragmentation of the files - do you have this occuring after a complete defrag of your hard drive? __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Jan 26, 2003, 03:47 AM	#3
DallasStar Junior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wave Existence Posts: 2,065 Rep Power: 0	The skipping problem.... I had it too... but you can still enjoy your mp3s cuz they'll play fine on WMP (it only occurs with winamp) __________________ "A picture of my existence... would show a useless wooden stake covered in snow... stuck loosely at a slant in the ground in a ploughed field on the edge of a vast open plain on a dark winter night." --- Franz Kafka

Jan 26, 2003, 05:10 AM	#5
DallasStar Junior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wave Existence Posts: 2,065 Rep Power: 0	Just to offer a different opinion... imo, the SRS plugin sounds distorted ... HOWEVER, with desktop speakers, the SRS plugin does sound nicer. Also... you overlooked a fact: there's an SRS plugin for Winamp... (made by SRS Labs) This is just my opinion... (i like winamp now cuz i don't get the skipping since i switched to santacruz ) __________________ "A picture of my existence... would show a useless wooden stake covered in snow... stuck loosely at a slant in the ground in a ploughed field on the edge of a vast open plain on a dark winter night." --- Franz Kafka

Jan 26, 2003, 09:50 AM	#7
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Rijeka Posts: 4,476 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	This FAQ can help you about WA2 issue (upgrade to 2.81b first) - disable hardware mixing in Preferences\Output\DirectSound output v2.2.x __________________ -- Vedran

Jan 26, 2003, 04:59 AM	#4
Baskins DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	Fatty, I have a very similar setup. I'm on a Audigy 1 OEM on Win2k (just SP2, no compelling reason to jump to SP3....yet) using the hacked Audigy 2 drivers (283's). Didn't see a need to go to the 323's since the first ones worked great. I'm a huge BF player. I've experienced the popping thing only once in game since installing the hacked drivers about 2 months ago. A simple reboot and I haven't seen it since and I play almost nightly. I too have only 63 channels listed when I enable h/w accel in game but I figured that was normal and didn't pursue it. When I was on actual Audigy 1 drivers I only had 32 channels listed so I figured this was better and left it at that. They're really excellent with positional sounds. With regards to to MP3's, I used to use Winamp but once I discovered Win Media Player I haven't looked back. It so kicks ass over Winamp. Seriously, try it. Fire up the same song in media player and winamp. Make sure to enable SRS in Media Player. Then flip back and forth. No contest. And if it's just a matter of a fancy plug-in for Winamp to compete, well I have yet to be able to find a "free" one that can even come close to the quality that WMP puts out. I not pro-MS at all....far from it actually, but I can't deny that they are better with this one. Oh, and I don't get any skipping or popping or pooping with WMP. I haven't tested Winamp long enough to determine if there are issues. But I hardly use it. Couldn't hurt to just experiment. Do you get the same hiccups in WMP? I also use headphones exclusively on my system so if there were ANY poppings or skippings I'd hear it.

Jan 26, 2003, 01:08 PM	#8
Matth Flash Banner Hater Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: UK Posts: 3,426 Rep Power: 93 System Specs	WMP and OGG? - you did ask.... http://tobias.everwicked.com/oggds.htm (from the VORBIS software page!) OggDS Direct Show Filters 2002-07-19 20:06:51.02 OggDS is a collection of Direct Show filters for Windows Media Player that supports Ogg streams and Vorbis audio playback and encoding, as well as splitting and multiplexing.

Jan 29, 2003, 08:29 PM	#10
Matth Flash Banner Hater Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: UK Posts: 3,426 Rep Power: 93 System Specs	The other one (unmaintaned) may be effective for other versions - perhaps http://mediaxw.sourceforge.net/Enchanced/downloads.htm Not sure, actually, how these things apply - I really must give OGG a bit of a try - I'm still using LAME

Jan 31, 2003, 04:49 AM	#11
Baskins DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	Matth, thanks for all the digging. Seems the sourceforge site has stopped development and has all redirects point to the Tobias DirectShow Filter site. So I mailed Tobias with my symptoms and we'll see if he has anything to say. Would really be kewl if I could get that working. I rip all my OGG's using CDex http://www.cdex.n3.net/ as it comes with a built-in OGG encoder (in addition to a Lame encoder, among a bunch of others). Nice way to do a head to head between the two. Try it. Sound pretty good considering I can only play them on Winamp...for the time being. My motivation is the "openness" of Vorbis, whereas the MP3 sharks are now conveniently demanding royalties for their so-called creation. I wish the industry (hand-held MP3 makers, etc.) would make a push to more OGG. Get some literature out there and get the public (Kazaa, etc.) to recognize it as a viable alternative. If I could develop software worth a crapper, that's one place I'd try and make a presence.

Feb 3, 2003, 05:59 AM	Thread Starter #12
Fatuck DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Berkeley, CA, USA Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Still Got Problems Hey, I've tested playing MP3s in Winamp, Winamp3, and WMP 9 and I still get skipping in all of them. The hard drive partition thet mp3s are on has near perfect defragmentation, as do the rest of the drives. Also, the drives are all formatted into the NTFS file system. Any idea what to do?

Feb 3, 2003, 06:03 AM	#13
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Fatuck, does the skipping happen in all of the mp3s, or the majority, or a rare few? Do you often get drive r/w errors? Are the skips in consistent places in the songs? Are the skips reproduceable? __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)