x-fi xtrememusic.... blows?

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Aug 13, 2006, 12:44 AM

i bought one, its really messed up i think. the sound quality at the same settings as my audigy 2 sounds more poor. in addition, to only get clearer sound i have to enabled smart volume mgmt which lowers my loudness considerably. watching music videos and tv are terrible sound, sounds like a tunnel almost. i've done massive tweaking, changing modes and if ive found a proper setting its only marginally better than the audigy 2. 24 bit audio sounds fine as does dvd video, maybe its better now. but for gaming there is no difference what so ever. older songs sound a little better, but the crystalizer can screw it up very easily with the sound getting distorted. the bass redirection is poor overall and is lowering sound quality.

before you ask me questions, YES i have set bass redirection to be on, i have fooled around with all the frquencies for it. cmss modes, the EQ. in addition, bass levels cannot be cranked up the same as i could on the audigy 2. this is aboslutely retarded and i will probably return this card. even my audigy 1 to audigy 2 was a huge difference. what the hell do i do?!

Judas · Aug 13, 2006, 08:36 AM

x-fi in general are crap.... sorry.

creative is crap and creative has a long way to go before i reconsider them (i've tried em all)

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Aug 13, 2006, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas

x-fi in general are crap.... sorry.

creative is crap and creative has a long way to go before i reconsider them (i've tried em all)

no offense, i wont take your opinion hear judas because there definitely is something wrong with the card. you HATE creative from what I know. the top of the line card cannot be this bad.

Judas · Aug 13, 2006, 08:13 PM

why can't it?

anyone could sell you bag of shit if they have the advertising campaign behind it.

Not to mention that creative i'll give credit to being one of the first to provide excellent sound cards initially, but low and behold, they are imo, at the end of the spectrum.

And Onboard Realtek ALC88x HD will blow the doors of anything creative has on hand, both in the overall performance, audio quality and in the memory footprint. Not to mention overall capability and easyness to use.

Plus Realtek consistantly has driver updates that fix things, i've yet to get a audio driver from them that has broke things.

And i love realteks Optical output quality, pumping a digital sample into a nice large audio system is perfecto.

Meanwhile creative provides the benefits of nominal EAX which frankly realtek does a damn good job of doing already, and shitty drivers, bloatware out the ass, capability problems, crackling, popping, slowdowns, rapes windows majority of the time, and complains all to hell if you tweak it.

Course it doesn't stop me from trying at least trying for a decent length of time, the next gen creative card nearly every time now that i've got the resources.

Why do you think i've an audigy 1 which imo is a pos still, as a 2ndary audio? why not the x-fi sitting on the shelf beside me?

Necrosis · Aug 14, 2006, 12:11 AM

Hmm I do think you have some thing wrong with you card.

Also make sure you totally remove the old drivers.

Don't worry about Judas he's just weird.

Robert McClelland · Aug 14, 2006, 03:01 AM

of couse he wierd lol I would take the sound card back get new replacement one If I where you

I love my audigy 2 sound card so far and can be easy modded lol

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Aug 14, 2006, 03:51 AM

i have my audigy 2 card rob, you know i wrote the guide on modding it (and i have the record of largest number of views of any thread on this forum lol)

judas ive heard the latest intel boards with HD audio, nforce soundstorm, etc. and to compare to an audigy 2 i might was well take a tin can, make a hole in it, shit in the can, put it next to my speakers outputting from an audigy 2 then put it to my ear. its a massive difference between the two, with an audigy 2 i hear all my audio crystal clear. i have no use for an optical connection, and if i need it i can simply buy the adapter online (or from some chinese computer store here in toronto hehe). this x-fi seems it may be defective because its not possible for something like this to sound so poor, when hundreds of reviews and thousands of users have said its a hell of a lot better than realtek audio and every other creative card.

as for drivers, they arent the greatest. actually bloatware has really been cut down with the audigy 4 and x-fi. with live and audigy 1 it was terrible with those crappy trials. if you don't want media source and supporting applications, then uncheck its that simple. there is one unified interface. and hell if you don't like it, then use the creative audio console it does everything you need in a more simple interface. altoough i like the audio consoles from creative, they look cool. i have never had any driver issues with any of my creative cards (except windows 98 kept uninstalling my sb live and XP drivers took a while to come). i will tell you, their tech support is some of the lamest i have experienced.

you know your my buddy judas, but thats my reply to you homie!

any other possiblities what went wrong with my card guys?

Judas · Aug 14, 2006, 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiGBrOwNPimpsta

i have my audigy 2 card rob, you know i wrote the guide on modding it (and i have the record of largest number of views of any thread on this forum lol)

judas ive heard the latest intel boards with HD audio, nforce soundstorm, etc. and to compare to an audigy 2 i might was well take a tin can, make a hole in it, shit in the can, put it next to my speakers outputting from an audigy 2 then put it to my ear. its a massive difference between the two, with an audigy 2 i hear all my audio crystal clear. i have no use for an optical connection, and if i need it i can simply buy the adapter online (or from some chinese computer store here in toronto hehe). this x-fi seems it may be defective because its not possible for something like this to sound so poor, when hundreds of reviews and thousands of users have said its a hell of a lot better than realtek audio and every other creative card.

as for drivers, they arent the greatest. actually bloatware has really been cut down with the audigy 4 and x-fi. with live and audigy 1 it was terrible with those crappy trials. if you don't want media source and supporting applications, then uncheck its that simple. there is one unified interface. and hell if you don't like it, then use the creative audio console it does everything you need in a more simple interface. altoough i like the audio consoles from creative, they look cool. i have never had any driver issues with any of my creative cards (except windows 98 kept uninstalling my sb live and XP drivers took a while to come). i will tell you, their tech support is some of the lamest i have experienced.

you know your my buddy judas, but thats my reply to you homie!

any other possiblities what went wrong with my card guys?

Your onboard test bed isn't incorporating either the realtek audio with refference drivers, or they are they aren't realtek alone.

make sure your onboard choice is realtek ALC882/883....

Intel has shit for audio, not to mention the realtek wannabe's.

I've got a audigy 1/2 and i had the audigy 4 pro at one point. I'm using the audigy 1 in this system because i've super stripped the software from it and using strickly driver mode for TeamSpeak, that is all.

I know your my buddy, but seriously, i've put through quite a few tracks, and i've even had some music fanatics or people that dwell on the sound alone rather then what's actually being played, and they perfer the analog and the digital output of the HD Realtek audio in comparison to the creative X-fi Fatality. Point blank, for the price of more then my motherboard, is the cost of that card, and the cards below it, are worse yet.

BTW, NEVER use drivers or software supplied by your retail manufacturer. Never use drivers supplied with you product (enless insanely brand new, in which case are not mature).

Only reason i have my initial motherboard disk here is because of the one single driver that windows x64 doesn't have preloaded. And it doesn't really effect anything.

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Aug 14, 2006, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas

BTW, NEVER use drivers or software supplied by your retail manufacturer. Never use drivers supplied with you product (enless insanely brand new, in which case are not mature).

oh yeah i updated, creative actually doesnt have the software on the site. you still need the driver cd. its like ati, they wont let you get the dvd decoder update without a valid cd. its only updates.

im very pick on driver updates and im familiar with creatives. i just want to know WHY the bass and clarity is so poor on this card. according to my needs, this card blows the audigy 2 out of the water. that is what i want to know. im going to a cottage (yes unbelievable a brown dude going there) for 2 days ill be back and do more research in the mean time i will wait for more replies

Judas · Aug 14, 2006, 07:04 PM

well due to the rules and laws, ATI's DVD decoder requires a purchased license copy to validate it all, it's kinda stupid but not ATI's fault, and ATI doesn't actually use any old files off the cd, it just validates that you have a legit copy of ATI's decoder.

Robert McClelland · Aug 14, 2006, 08:11 PM

You allways welcome try pax 3.33 driver at my pax forum site

for xfi drivers I don't know if they do you any good or not.

Rogacz · Aug 14, 2006, 10:40 PM

What I like in my X-Fi?

- CMSS Headphone
- SVM on driver level (trully usefull only at night time)

What I dislike?

- Every other thing, and I'm really angry that CL removed such essentials like EAX settings. I want to put some distortion and reverb only on my mic while using game mode, and what? I can't! I want to have some reverberation and additional fancy effects in old games, and what? I can't use it, because CL made goddamn game mode console which does NOTHING in real.

If kX would support DS3D and Open AL I'd never sell my A2.

classic_leon · Aug 15, 2006, 02:44 PM

It is crap indeed! gimme poor sound all the time, I gotta fix it by switching it to another mode of 3 and then turn it back. And I finally find there are 2 BIOSes on this sound card which avoids us modding the cards (wat de f...), the one is CSI as we know and another is an Inner BIOS inside Fidelity! I'm losing my patient and putting my sight on other devices.

Rogacz · Aug 15, 2006, 02:48 PM

Is the inner BIOS the same as the first one?

classic_leon · Aug 15, 2006, 03:10 PM

Not too many clues with it as its integrated and not be able to be viewed. I guess its not an EEPROM, instead, an EPROM can't be flahed more than once. Even if my guess is wrong, there is probably nobody will have the flashing utility to pump or flash this inner bios.

Rogacz · Aug 15, 2006, 04:32 PM

But it shouldn't be impossible.

Anyway, how does this BIOS disallow you to flash the second one?
Is it auto overwriting the second one, as, say - protection or something?

ROBSCIX · Aug 15, 2006, 05:25 PM

Everybody I talked to say a X-fi has alot better sound quality than a Audigy 2. I would say that if your X-fi has sound quality this bad then it is probably defective...

Rogacz · Aug 15, 2006, 05:30 PM

Audio quality is ok, but software does... well, nothing.

It has predefined EAX presets only in entertainment mode (and they are awful), so one can't set own to play, say, old game which doesn't support EAX.

classic_leon · Aug 15, 2006, 06:39 PM

Ya, I hope so. due to I don't have software flashing utility, all im able to do is based on my searing-iron, hot-air-gun, and reprogramming machine. Fidelity chip is too tiny for me, i can't get it opened without making damage of it. If you got any idea in helping me on this problem, please tell me.

in fact most of x-fi hardware has no problem but error occurs when a file missing or not booted as the audio drivers & apps size are still huge...well, what i wanna say is the drivers are ok but app sux as one single error causes all apps not run. rebooting or logging off OS is the only way fixing it up esp for RAID 0/5/10/... users.

Rogacz · Aug 15, 2006, 06:47 PM

I'm affraid I can't help you. My knowledge about searing things limits to my headphones and casette adapter for car audio :P

classic_leon · Aug 15, 2006, 07:04 PM

That's good enough for soldering chips out or PCB. If you could get a X-Fi Fatal1ty FPS BIOS, please let me know. thx

I am in Europe right now. I couldn't remember you or another guy who asked me coming to Poland in a thread regarding speakers. I'll probably get back to X-Fi mod after travelling Poland or any other countries.

ROBSCIX · Aug 15, 2006, 07:10 PM

Have you considered returning the card?

Rogacz · Aug 16, 2006, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classic_leon

That's good enough for soldering chips out or PCB. If you could get a X-Fi Fatal1ty FPS BIOS, please let me know. thx

I am in Europe right now. I couldn't remember you or another guy who asked me coming to Poland in a thread regarding speakers. I'll probably get back to X-Fi mod after travelling Poland or any other countries.

Nah, it wasn't me ;-)

However you're always welcome here

Actualy I've got X-Fi Platinium.

classic_leon · Aug 16, 2006, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROBSCIX

Have you considered returning the card?

Me? or BigBrownPimpStar? I don't have to 'cause its not very expensive.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rogacz

Nah, it wasn't me ;-)

However you're always welcome here

Actualy I've got X-Fi Platinium.

Thanks, man.

Rogacz · Aug 16, 2006, 01:02 PM

Hm, classic_leon if you can modify drivers, would it be possible to add a panel from previous CL drivers which allowed us to set different EAX settings than those predefined already (awful settings in entertainment mode).

I'm really lacking functionality of EAX effects in this card.

Don't know why CL removed it.

sovietdoc · Aug 16, 2006, 08:20 PM

X-FI is far as the sound quality goes is worse than older Audigy 2 Chipset cards. Only thing that X-Fi is good for is if you are using headphones.

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Aug 17, 2006, 05:18 AM

tomorrow ill swap it im temtped to return it so i can get money back though lol

Rogacz · Aug 17, 2006, 10:13 AM

Better buy yourself a pair of high-end headphones instead of X-Fi (at last I can do so in Poland, price of Platinium is even bigger than, let's say Sennheiser HD-555)

BiGBrOwNPimpsta · Aug 18, 2006, 01:48 AM

all is good! x-fi works great

and hell no i will never goto headphones. i listen to hard rap, i need my subwoofer pumping through me. i could care less for headphones, maybe for my ipod thats it

edit - HAHAHA JUDAS! jk thx for the help!

classic_leon · Aug 21, 2006, 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rogacz

Hm, classic_leon if you can modify drivers, would it be possible to add a panel from previous CL drivers which allowed us to set different EAX settings than those predefined already (awful settings in entertainment mode). I'm really lacking functionality of EAX effects in this card. Don't know why CL removed it.

Don't worry. You can set more effects efficiently like getting Zeus's vioce or chipmuck's voice under Creation mode by switching on Pitch Shifter as the picture showing below.

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Aug 13, 2006, 12:44 AM	#1
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,717 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	x-fi xtrememusic.... blows? i bought one, its really messed up i think. the sound quality at the same settings as my audigy 2 sounds more poor. in addition, to only get clearer sound i have to enabled smart volume mgmt which lowers my loudness considerably. watching music videos and tv are terrible sound, sounds like a tunnel almost. i've done massive tweaking, changing modes and if ive found a proper setting its only marginally better than the audigy 2. 24 bit audio sounds fine as does dvd video, maybe its better now. but for gaming there is no difference what so ever. older songs sound a little better, but the crystalizer can screw it up very easily with the sound getting distorted. the bass redirection is poor overall and is lowering sound quality. before you ask me questions, YES i have set bass redirection to be on, i have fooled around with all the frquencies for it. cmss modes, the EQ. in addition, bass levels cannot be cranked up the same as i could on the audigy 2. this is aboslutely retarded and i will probably return this card. even my audigy 1 to audigy 2 was a huge difference. what the hell do i do?! __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard

Aug 14, 2006, 03:01 AM	#6
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,615 Rep Power: 196 System Specs	of couse he wierd lol I would take the sound card back get new replacement one If I where you I love my audigy 2 sound card so far and can be easy modded lol __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://www.speedtest.net/result/1949536385.png

Aug 14, 2006, 03:51 AM	Thread Starter #7
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,717 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	i have my audigy 2 card rob, you know i wrote the guide on modding it (and i have the record of largest number of views of any thread on this forum lol) judas ive heard the latest intel boards with HD audio, nforce soundstorm, etc. and to compare to an audigy 2 i might was well take a tin can, make a hole in it, shit in the can, put it next to my speakers outputting from an audigy 2 then put it to my ear. its a massive difference between the two, with an audigy 2 i hear all my audio crystal clear. i have no use for an optical connection, and if i need it i can simply buy the adapter online (or from some chinese computer store here in toronto hehe). this x-fi seems it may be defective because its not possible for something like this to sound so poor, when hundreds of reviews and thousands of users have said its a hell of a lot better than realtek audio and every other creative card. as for drivers, they arent the greatest. actually bloatware has really been cut down with the audigy 4 and x-fi. with live and audigy 1 it was terrible with those crappy trials. if you don't want media source and supporting applications, then uncheck its that simple. there is one unified interface. and hell if you don't like it, then use the creative audio console it does everything you need in a more simple interface. altoough i like the audio consoles from creative, they look cool. i have never had any driver issues with any of my creative cards (except windows 98 kept uninstalling my sb live and XP drivers took a while to come). i will tell you, their tech support is some of the lamest i have experienced. you know your my buddy judas, but thats my reply to you homie! any other possiblities what went wrong with my card guys? __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard

Aug 14, 2006, 08:11 PM	#11
Robert McClelland PAX Tweaker, PAX Expert. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Somewhere in Wood County Ohio Same Town :) Posts: 10,615 Rep Power: 196 System Specs	You allways welcome try pax 3.33 driver at my pax forum site for xfi drivers I don't know if they do you any good or not. __________________ "XTREME AUDIO IS CRAP!" "There no support for it. It's crapist card on face of the earth it should be throw into the sun" http://www.speedtest.net/result/1949536385.png

Aug 14, 2006, 10:40 PM	#12
Rogacz Porcupine Floyd Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Poland Posts: 422 Rep Power: 0	What I like in my X-Fi? - CMSS Headphone - SVM on driver level (trully usefull only at night time) What I dislike? - Every other thing, and I'm really angry that CL removed such essentials like EAX settings. I want to put some distortion and reverb only on my mic while using game mode, and what? I can't! I want to have some reverberation and additional fancy effects in old games, and what? I can't use it, because CL made goddamn game mode console which does NOTHING in real. If kX would support DS3D and Open AL I'd never sell my A2. __________________

Aug 14, 2006, 12:11 AM	#5
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Hmm I do think you have some thing wrong with you card. Also make sure you totally remove the old drivers. Don't worry about Judas he's just weird.

Aug 15, 2006, 02:44 PM	#13
classic_leon HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wu Han, Hu Bei, P.R.China Posts: 1,238 Rep Power: 0	It is crap indeed! gimme poor sound all the time, I gotta fix it by switching it to another mode of 3 and then turn it back. And I finally find there are 2 BIOSes on this sound card which avoids us modding the cards (wat de f...), the one is CSI as we know and another is an Inner BIOS inside Fidelity! I'm losing my patient and putting my sight on other devices. __________________ Fashion keeps us alive. YouP-PAX Please visit http://www.A-PAX.co.uk to discuss the computer mods. The latest YouP PAX modded drivers are provided on the site.

Aug 15, 2006, 02:48 PM	#14
Rogacz Porcupine Floyd Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Poland Posts: 422 Rep Power: 0	Is the inner BIOS the same as the first one? __________________

Aug 15, 2006, 03:10 PM	#15
classic_leon HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wu Han, Hu Bei, P.R.China Posts: 1,238 Rep Power: 0	Not too many clues with it as its integrated and not be able to be viewed. I guess its not an EEPROM, instead, an EPROM can't be flahed more than once. Even if my guess is wrong, there is probably nobody will have the flashing utility to pump or flash this inner bios. __________________ Fashion keeps us alive. YouP-PAX Please visit http://www.A-PAX.co.uk to discuss the computer mods. The latest YouP PAX modded drivers are provided on the site.

Aug 15, 2006, 04:32 PM	#16
Rogacz Porcupine Floyd Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Poland Posts: 422 Rep Power: 0	But it shouldn't be impossible. Anyway, how does this BIOS disallow you to flash the second one? Is it auto overwriting the second one, as, say - protection or something? __________________

Aug 15, 2006, 05:25 PM	#17
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	Everybody I talked to say a X-fi has alot better sound quality than a Audigy 2. I would say that if your X-fi has sound quality this bad then it is probably defective...

Aug 15, 2006, 05:30 PM	#18
Rogacz Porcupine Floyd Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Poland Posts: 422 Rep Power: 0	Audio quality is ok, but software does... well, nothing. It has predefined EAX presets only in entertainment mode (and they are awful), so one can't set own to play, say, old game which doesn't support EAX. __________________

Aug 15, 2006, 06:39 PM	#19
classic_leon HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wu Han, Hu Bei, P.R.China Posts: 1,238 Rep Power: 0	Ya, I hope so. due to I don't have software flashing utility, all im able to do is based on my searing-iron, hot-air-gun, and reprogramming machine. Fidelity chip is too tiny for me, i can't get it opened without making damage of it. If you got any idea in helping me on this problem, please tell me. in fact most of x-fi hardware has no problem but error occurs when a file missing or not booted as the audio drivers & apps size are still huge...well, what i wanna say is the drivers are ok but app sux as one single error causes all apps not run. rebooting or logging off OS is the only way fixing it up esp for RAID 0/5/10/... users. __________________ Fashion keeps us alive. YouP-PAX Please visit http://www.A-PAX.co.uk to discuss the computer mods. The latest YouP PAX modded drivers are provided on the site.

Aug 15, 2006, 06:47 PM	#20
Rogacz Porcupine Floyd Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Poland Posts: 422 Rep Power: 0	I'm affraid I can't help you. My knowledge about searing things limits to my headphones and casette adapter for car audio :P __________________

Aug 15, 2006, 07:04 PM	#21
classic_leon HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wu Han, Hu Bei, P.R.China Posts: 1,238 Rep Power: 0	That's good enough for soldering chips out or PCB. If you could get a X-Fi Fatal1ty FPS BIOS, please let me know. thx I am in Europe right now. I couldn't remember you or another guy who asked me coming to Poland in a thread regarding speakers. I'll probably get back to X-Fi mod after travelling Poland or any other countries. __________________ Fashion keeps us alive. YouP-PAX Please visit http://www.A-PAX.co.uk to discuss the computer mods. The latest YouP PAX modded drivers are provided on the site.

Aug 15, 2006, 07:10 PM	#22
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	Have you considered returning the card?

Aug 16, 2006, 01:02 PM	#25
Rogacz Porcupine Floyd Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Poland Posts: 422 Rep Power: 0	Hm, classic_leon if you can modify drivers, would it be possible to add a panel from previous CL drivers which allowed us to set different EAX settings than those predefined already (awful settings in entertainment mode). I'm really lacking functionality of EAX effects in this card. Don't know why CL removed it. __________________

Aug 16, 2006, 08:20 PM	#26
sovietdoc DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 121 Rep Power: 0	X-FI is far as the sound quality goes is worse than older Audigy 2 Chipset cards. Only thing that X-Fi is good for is if you are using headphones. __________________

Aug 17, 2006, 05:18 AM	Thread Starter #27
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,717 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	tomorrow ill swap it im temtped to return it so i can get money back though lol __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard

Aug 17, 2006, 10:13 AM	#28
Rogacz Porcupine Floyd Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Poland Posts: 422 Rep Power: 0	Better buy yourself a pair of high-end headphones instead of X-Fi (at last I can do so in Poland, price of Platinium is even bigger than, let's say Sennheiser HD-555) __________________

Aug 18, 2006, 01:48 AM	Thread Starter #29
BiGBrOwNPimpsta HH's #1 Hustla and Pimp Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The Dirty Dot Posts: 7,717 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	all is good! x-fi works great and hell no i will never goto headphones. i listen to hard rap, i need my subwoofer pumping through me. i could care less for headphones, maybe for my ipod thats it edit - HAHAHA JUDAS! jk thx for the help! __________________ Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Music \| Logitech Z-5500 THX 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers \| 2 Lite-On 20x S-ATA Burners \| Logitech G700 Mouse \| Logitech MX5500 Bluetooth Keyboard