Hear strange noise when moving windows or scrolling...

cManBlues · Mar 8, 2003, 01:33 PM

Hi there!

I have a very weird problem. At first my config:

AMD Athlon XP 1600+
EPOX 8KHA+ (VIA KT266A)
512 MB RAM
ATI All In Wonder 8500 DV
Creative Soundblaster Audigy 1 Platinum EX (using Audigy 2 drivers)
Windows XP SP1

I noticed the following a few weeks ago. I hear some noise from speakers and / or headphones when something on my screen happens in windows. When a new Window pops up I hear a short "bsss" when I move a window, I hear a "bsssssssssssssssss" as long as I am moving this window. When I scroll up and down in any program (IE, Word, ...) I hear the noise. I have to put up the volume very high to hear it...
At first I thought the problem occours because I use Audigy-2 drivers on my Audigy-1 and it's not 100% compatible. But then I re-installed my Windows, so that I had no drivers installed for my video and audio card. At first I installed the Audigy-2 drivers plus all updates available so far. But there was no problem! The sound was ok! No noise when moving windows around, or scrolling! Then I installed the catalyst drivers for my AIW 8500DV card and there it was again!
It does not matter if I install the Catalyst 2,5 drivers under DirectX 8.1 or the Catalyst 3.1 driver under DirectX9, as soon as I install drivers for my graficscard the "bssssssssss" noise appears! I also checked any IRQ an E/A conflicts! there are none! everything seems to be configured correctly!
Has anybody else had this problem? Does anybody have an idea what could be wrong?

thx
Chris

***craig5320*** · Mar 8, 2003, 01:48 PM

I get it too, also from one of my CD drives, I think it's interference, perhaps coming from the processor or whatever, does it do it when the speakers are on but not connected to the PC audio out?

***craig5320*** · Mar 8, 2003, 02:04 PM

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DallasStar · Mar 8, 2003, 10:40 PM

You may want to try putting the Audigy in a different PCI slot.

Also, do this experiment:

Try turning off Audio hardware acceleration and Video hardware acceleration and then test this problem. Then narrow it down to one or the other or both etc.

cManBlues · Mar 10, 2003, 09:09 AM

Hi!

Thanks for the tip! I was trying around with HW Acc. and when I put down the HW Acc one level at my graphicscard the noise was gone! But now *could slap his own face* I found the solution for the problem! When I mute the "line in" (which is connected from my Graphicscard to my audigy, because I have an ATI All In Wonder Card) the noise is gone! So I must not move any window when I am recording anything from TV... but I will make it ;-)
Putting the audigy into another slot on my mobo didn help...

thx again!
Chris

XDread · Mar 10, 2003, 11:22 AM

I think I have read somewhere that some graphic adapters ask for exclusive use of the pci bus when doing direct memory access to make such operations quicker and thus help the cards to score higher on tests. This exclusive access of the pci bus may disturb sound cards in short bursts that is audible.

Anyone else who has heard of this? Is this true?

DallasStar · Mar 10, 2003, 09:57 PM

Oh yeah... back when I used to have an Audigy, I'd always have to mute the Line In because it always caused a hissing noise... 'cept for me, it was constant, not just when i moved windows.

hallcreative · Jan 9, 2007, 04:49 PM

Go to Master volume controls, select the "advanced" button under Microphone and uncheck "Microphone Boost". That did it for me. I am using a Gamesurround Fortissimo III on Windows XP - which has it's own problems with drivers, apparently it's an unsupported card. Thanks to the previous responses which led me in this direction. I didn't think you should have to worry about scrolling when recording from line in. Now you don't.

Mar 8, 2003, 01:33 PM	#1
cManBlues DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 29 Rep Power: 0	Hear strange noise when moving windows or scrolling... Hi there! I have a very weird problem. At first my config: AMD Athlon XP 1600+ EPOX 8KHA+ (VIA KT266A) 512 MB RAM ATI All In Wonder 8500 DV Creative Soundblaster Audigy 1 Platinum EX (using Audigy 2 drivers) Windows XP SP1 I noticed the following a few weeks ago. I hear some noise from speakers and / or headphones when something on my screen happens in windows. When a new Window pops up I hear a short "bsss" when I move a window, I hear a "bsssssssssssssssss" as long as I am moving this window. When I scroll up and down in any program (IE, Word, ...) I hear the noise. I have to put up the volume very high to hear it... At first I thought the problem occours because I use Audigy-2 drivers on my Audigy-1 and it's not 100% compatible. But then I re-installed my Windows, so that I had no drivers installed for my video and audio card. At first I installed the Audigy-2 drivers plus all updates available so far. But there was no problem! The sound was ok! No noise when moving windows around, or scrolling! Then I installed the catalyst drivers for my AIW 8500DV card and there it was again! It does not matter if I install the Catalyst 2,5 drivers under DirectX 8.1 or the Catalyst 3.1 driver under DirectX9, as soon as I install drivers for my graficscard the "bssssssssss" noise appears! I also checked any IRQ an E/A conflicts! there are none! everything seems to be configured correctly! Has anybody else had this problem? Does anybody have an idea what could be wrong? thx Chris

Mar 8, 2003, 01:48 PM	#2
*craig5320* HH Administrator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 8,572 Rep Power: 445 System Specs	I get it too, also from one of my CD drives, I think it's interference, perhaps coming from the processor or whatever, does it do it when the speakers are on but not connected to the PC audio out? __________________ HardwareHeaven on Facebook

Mar 8, 2003, 02:04 PM	#3
*craig5320* HH Administrator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 8,572 Rep Power: 445 System Specs	THREADS MERGED: Repeated post in Radeon forum, not really required. __________________ HardwareHeaven on Facebook

Mar 8, 2003, 10:40 PM	#4
DallasStar Junior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wave Existence Posts: 2,065 Rep Power: 0	You may want to try putting the Audigy in a different PCI slot. Also, do this experiment: Try turning off Audio hardware acceleration and Video hardware acceleration and then test this problem. Then narrow it down to one or the other or both etc. __________________ "A picture of my existence... would show a useless wooden stake covered in snow... stuck loosely at a slant in the ground in a ploughed field on the edge of a vast open plain on a dark winter night." --- Franz Kafka

Mar 10, 2003, 09:57 PM	#7
DallasStar Junior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wave Existence Posts: 2,065 Rep Power: 0	Oh yeah... back when I used to have an Audigy, I'd always have to mute the Line In because it always caused a hissing noise... 'cept for me, it was constant, not just when i moved windows. __________________ "A picture of my existence... would show a useless wooden stake covered in snow... stuck loosely at a slant in the ground in a ploughed field on the edge of a vast open plain on a dark winter night." --- Franz Kafka

Mar 10, 2003, 09:09 AM	Thread Starter #5
cManBlues DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 29 Rep Power: 0	Hi! Thanks for the tip! I was trying around with HW Acc. and when I put down the HW Acc one level at my graphicscard the noise was gone! But now could slap his own face I found the solution for the problem! When I mute the "line in" (which is connected from my Graphicscard to my audigy, because I have an ATI All In Wonder Card) the noise is gone! So I must not move any window when I am recording anything from TV... but I will make it ;-) Putting the audigy into another slot on my mobo didn help... thx again! Chris

Mar 10, 2003, 11:22 AM	#6
XDread DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Trondheim, Norway Posts: 146 Rep Power: 0	I think I have read somewhere that some graphic adapters ask for exclusive use of the pci bus when doing direct memory access to make such operations quicker and thus help the cards to score higher on tests. This exclusive access of the pci bus may disturb sound cards in short bursts that is audible. Anyone else who has heard of this? Is this true?

Jan 9, 2007, 04:49 PM	#8
hallcreative DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Simple fix for noise when scrolling Go to Master volume controls, select the "advanced" button under Microphone and uncheck "Microphone Boost". That did it for me. I am using a Gamesurround Fortissimo III on Windows XP - which has it's own problems with drivers, apparently it's an unsupported card. Thanks to the previous responses which led me in this direction. I didn't think you should have to worry about scrolling when recording from line in. Now you don't.