Professional DAS With X-FI Chip

thomasabarnes · Oct 26, 2006, 09:21 PM

Has anybody heard any news on Creative releasing the EMU digital audio systems with the X-FI chip? There was information hyping up the X-FI chip before the consumer level soundcards were released. Where in the heck are the pro level soundcards with the X-FI chip?

If anyone knows of any information released, please post links? That is, do you know of any info besides this: http://www.creative.com/heartobelieve/ ?

Thanks in advance.

**dj_stick** · Oct 26, 2006, 10:34 PM

hmmm i wonder if the yactually will make a pro card with ti X-Fi chip, 'cause all though the chip has a large amount of resources that are used for useless processes in the x-fi, it's still only running at 48khz iirc

ROBSCIX · Oct 27, 2006, 12:18 AM

70% of the power of the X_fi chip is used for SRC (Sample, Rate, Conversion) I seriously doubt you will see any pro level cards using this DSP...

Rogacz · Oct 27, 2006, 12:43 PM

This card is not BAD, but it's not GOOD either.

I had A2 before this X-Fi plat, and I don't think it's a HUGE jump into new world.

CMSS has improved (and holy CMSS 3D Headphone), but drivers and support are useless as always. Same-old-cl-****

ROBSCIX · Oct 27, 2006, 04:09 PM

another reason I decided to jump the Creative ship. I will keep my CL cards for DSP effects on my electric guitar. My main audio card shall be the Auzentech X-Meridian. There's a nice piece of audio technology.

classic_leon · Oct 28, 2006, 09:49 AM

Quote:

X-Fi is not just another super-good sound card. It's not just about delivering better audio, it's not just about adding more features, it's not just about higher performance; (we've done all that and this time, we've done it even better) - it's about a paradigm shit in digital entertainment.

I got this from that site.

thomasabarnes · Oct 28, 2006, 03:48 PM

LOL A lot of old faces in here (to sort of speak) and all are/were cool guys.

Hi everybody.

Anyway, I was sure I read that it was planned for Creative to release a Pro line of soundcards using the X-Fi chip. This was sometime before the cunsummer X-FI soundcards were released. I was looking forward to seeing the features of such a soundcard. Oh well, if they're not gonna do that, that's bad news.

ROBSCIX · Oct 28, 2006, 06:26 PM

Given the implementation of the X-fi chip on the card we see know and the fact the chip still resamples AND that 70% of this cards DSP power goes right to SRC I don't really think I would want a card based on this chip. They can do better... Of course that's just my opinion. -BTW Paradigm shift -whatever doesn't mean we have to accept substandard crap cards... The shift has been a long time coming and doesn't have much to do with Creative.

classic_leon · Oct 28, 2006, 08:00 PM

Very very very very very...very nice to see you again, thomasabarnes!!! (^.^)
Yeah, SONAR!!!

thomasabarnes · Oct 29, 2006, 07:37 PM

@ Classic Leon

VERY Nice to see you too bud!

Hope to be back here at DriverHeaven on a regular basis soon. Yes, I'm still using SONAR, and when I return on a regular basis, I'll have a new avatar and signature pic that's SONAR based. hehe!

BTW that's a nice new avatar you have. It reminds me of CounterStrike LOL!

See you bud.

@ROBSCIX

Well, I was hoping for their next generation of DAS from EMU, that's all.

ROBSCIX · Oct 29, 2006, 07:54 PM

@Thomas, You may be right it is possibe that EMU has a chip that is based on the X-fi DSP. I think it's kinda the opposite with them though meaning EMU is the one that usually comes up with the stuff and Creative uses it for gaming cards. Take the 10KX DSP for example? Why can't we just get a DSP that doesn't have and"but's" in it? meaning it's a good card BUT it resamples. IT does digital BUT not in surround...you see what I mean? a good card with no "but's"... I am done with Creative labs cards I am gonna use my audigy 2 for real time effects on a channel insert for my external mixer other than that I am gonna check out the X-Meridian... I think that card is gonna be awsome.

Oct 26, 2006, 09:21 PM	#1
thomasabarnes Long Time ***** Friend Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,375 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Professional DAS With X-FI Chip Has anybody heard any news on Creative releasing the EMU digital audio systems with the X-FI chip? There was information hyping up the X-FI chip before the consumer level soundcards were released. Where in the heck are the pro level soundcards with the X-FI chip? If anyone knows of any information released, please post links? That is, do you know of any info besides this: http://www.creative.com/heartobelieve/ ? Thanks in advance. __________________ May a song always touch you in a positive way. SONAR X1D Expanded, Windows 7 Pro 64Bit, MOTU UltraLite MK3, 150 GB HDD, 250 GB HDD, 1 TB x2 HDD 7200 rpm My Music Production: Top 40, Contemporary Christian, Pop/Rock, Decent Rap, Inspirationals, and Children Songs

Oct 27, 2006, 12:43 PM	#4
Rogacz Porcupine Floyd Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Poland Posts: 422 Rep Power: 0	This card is not BAD, but it's not GOOD either. I had A2 before this X-Fi plat, and I don't think it's a HUGE jump into new world. CMSS has improved (and holy CMSS 3D Headphone), but drivers and support are useless as always. Same-old-cl-**** __________________

Oct 27, 2006, 04:09 PM	#5
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	another reason I decided to jump the Creative ship. I will keep my CL cards for DSP effects on my electric guitar. My main audio card shall be the Auzentech X-Meridian. There's a nice piece of audio technology. Last edited by ROBSCIX; Oct 27, 2006 at 04:18 PM.

Oct 28, 2006, 03:48 PM	Thread Starter #7
thomasabarnes Long Time ***** Friend Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,375 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	LOL A lot of old faces in here (to sort of speak) and all are/were cool guys. Hi everybody. Anyway, I was sure I read that it was planned for Creative to release a Pro line of soundcards using the X-Fi chip. This was sometime before the cunsummer X-FI soundcards were released. I was looking forward to seeing the features of such a soundcard. Oh well, if they're not gonna do that, that's bad news. __________________ May a song always touch you in a positive way. SONAR X1D Expanded, Windows 7 Pro 64Bit, MOTU UltraLite MK3, 150 GB HDD, 250 GB HDD, 1 TB x2 HDD 7200 rpm My Music Production: Top 40, Contemporary Christian, Pop/Rock, Decent Rap, Inspirationals, and Children Songs Last edited by thomasabarnes; Oct 28, 2006 at 04:21 PM.

Oct 28, 2006, 08:00 PM	#9
classic_leon HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wu Han, Hu Bei, P.R.China Posts: 1,238 Rep Power: 0	Very very very very very...very nice to see you again, thomasabarnes!!! (^.^) Yeah, SONAR!!! __________________ Fashion keeps us alive. YouP-PAX Please visit http://www.A-PAX.co.uk to discuss the computer mods. The latest YouP PAX modded drivers are provided on the site.

Oct 27, 2006, 12:18 AM	#3
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	70% of the power of the X_fi chip is used for SRC (Sample, Rate, Conversion) I seriously doubt you will see any pro level cards using this DSP...

Oct 28, 2006, 06:26 PM	#8
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	Given the implementation of the X-fi chip on the card we see know and the fact the chip still resamples AND that 70% of this cards DSP power goes right to SRC I don't really think I would want a card based on this chip. They can do better... Of course that's just my opinion. -BTW Paradigm shift -whatever doesn't mean we have to accept substandard crap cards... The shift has been a long time coming and doesn't have much to do with Creative.

Oct 29, 2006, 07:37 PM	Thread Starter #10
thomasabarnes Long Time ***** Friend Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,375 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	@ Classic Leon VERY Nice to see you too bud! Hope to be back here at DriverHeaven on a regular basis soon. Yes, I'm still using SONAR, and when I return on a regular basis, I'll have a new avatar and signature pic that's SONAR based. hehe! BTW that's a nice new avatar you have. It reminds me of CounterStrike LOL! See you bud. @ROBSCIX Well, I was hoping for their next generation of DAS from EMU, that's all. __________________ May a song always touch you in a positive way. SONAR X1D Expanded, Windows 7 Pro 64Bit, MOTU UltraLite MK3, 150 GB HDD, 250 GB HDD, 1 TB x2 HDD 7200 rpm My Music Production: Top 40, Contemporary Christian, Pop/Rock, Decent Rap, Inspirationals, and Children Songs Last edited by thomasabarnes; Oct 29, 2006 at 08:43 PM.

Oct 29, 2006, 07:54 PM	#11
ROBSCIX DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,732 Rep Power: 0	@Thomas, You may be right it is possibe that EMU has a chip that is based on the X-fi DSP. I think it's kinda the opposite with them though meaning EMU is the one that usually comes up with the stuff and Creative uses it for gaming cards. Take the 10KX DSP for example? Why can't we just get a DSP that doesn't have and"but's" in it? meaning it's a good card BUT it resamples. IT does digital BUT not in surround...you see what I mean? a good card with no "but's"... I am done with Creative labs cards I am gonna use my audigy 2 for real time effects on a channel insert for my external mixer other than that I am gonna check out the X-Meridian... I think that card is gonna be awsome.