MP3 Pro

Zardon · Jun 12, 2003, 08:46 PM

I have been playing with the MP3 pro codec lately and im finding some great results, has anyone else been playing with the pro codec?

Vampyromaniac · Jun 13, 2003, 07:26 AM

I've not tried, I thought it was only good for low bitrates

Rayder · Jun 13, 2003, 08:34 AM

In MusicMatch version 7.5 (they want you to pay AGAIN for 8.0) MP3Pro only allows for a max of 96kbps. While that is low (I use 320's nowadays), it could be good for website music or when you'd be using it in an MP3 player with very little memory or other space limited situations. I haven't tried it though. Too low of a bitrate for me. But I hear it does a pretty good job.

One day I'll have to rip some CD's using it to see for myself. It could save a heckuva lot of space on....say....a fully packed MP3 CD.

RIV@NVX · Jun 13, 2003, 12:00 PM

I heard that Ogg Vorbis is prefered over MP3 Pro:
1) optimized for low bitrates too
2) open cross-platform decoder
3) free, even opensource
4) similar quality to MP3 Pro

JLP · Jun 13, 2003, 04:55 PM

Yup I also think MP3 Pro is not worth it. I find Ogg Vorbis much better. Gives smaller and better sounding files and it is much more advanced format. For example it allows pealing (reducing quality and sze without reencoding) and it is also great that you can use more then just 2 channels. So you can encode 5.1 from DVDs for example. I love it. It is my main format music format nowdays. I use FLAC for all my losless encoding needs.

Zardon · Jun 13, 2003, 05:20 PM

I like ogg vorbis myself....... good sound format.

RIV@NVX · Jun 13, 2003, 08:21 PM

Also, one more advantage of Ogg Vorbis is that it has defined tagging format - MP3 (and afaik MP3 Pro) has no offically defined tagging format (ID3v1/ID3v2/APEv2/Lyrics3v2 are used, but neither of them defined as offical tagging format).

Rayder · Jun 13, 2003, 08:35 PM

Ogg is great, but many MP3 players don't support that format and AFAIK no boom-boxes support it. That will probably change in time, I imagine, but MP3Pro DOES work in these situations now. That would be the reason to use it.

Just my 2 cents.

Zardon · Jun 13, 2003, 09:25 PM

well I really only started this thread to get your viewpoints on the mp3pro format. I like ogg alot as I said, but unfortunately it still doesnt have the mass market in the way that Mp3 has.

I also have a Compaq portable Mp3 player and it will only accept MP3 or WMA, so I generally tend to stick to MP3 (lame).

Jun 12, 2003, 08:46 PM	#1
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	MP3 Pro I have been playing with the MP3 pro codec lately and im finding some great results, has anyone else been playing with the pro codec?

Jun 13, 2003, 07:26 AM	#2
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Jun 13, 2003, 12:00 PM	#4
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Rijeka Posts: 4,476 Rep Power: 67 System Specs	I heard that Ogg Vorbis is prefered over MP3 Pro: 1) optimized for low bitrates too 2) open cross-platform decoder 3) free, even opensource 4) similar quality to MP3 Pro __________________ -- Vedran

Jun 13, 2003, 04:55 PM	#5
JLP DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Slovenia Posts: 249 Rep Power: 0	Ogg Vorbis Yup I also think MP3 Pro is not worth it. I find Ogg Vorbis much better. Gives smaller and better sounding files and it is much more advanced format. For example it allows pealing (reducing quality and sze without reencoding) and it is also great that you can use more then just 2 channels. So you can encode 5.1 from DVDs for example. I love it. It is my main format music format nowdays. I use FLAC for all my losless encoding needs.

Jun 13, 2003, 08:21 PM	#7
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Rijeka Posts: 4,476 Rep Power: 67 System Specs	Also, one more advantage of Ogg Vorbis is that it has defined tagging format - MP3 (and afaik MP3 Pro) has no offically defined tagging format (ID3v1/ID3v2/APEv2/Lyrics3v2 are used, but neither of them defined as offical tagging format). __________________ -- Vedran

Jun 13, 2003, 08:34 AM	#3
Rayder Mostly lurking lately.... Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 2,160 Rep Power: 71	In MusicMatch version 7.5 (they want you to pay AGAIN for 8.0) MP3Pro only allows for a max of 96kbps. While that is low (I use 320's nowadays), it could be good for website music or when you'd be using it in an MP3 player with very little memory or other space limited situations. I haven't tried it though. Too low of a bitrate for me. But I hear it does a pretty good job. One day I'll have to rip some CD's using it to see for myself. It could save a heckuva lot of space on....say....a fully packed MP3 CD.

Jun 13, 2003, 05:20 PM	Thread Starter #6
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	I like ogg vorbis myself....... good sound format.

Jun 13, 2003, 08:35 PM	#8
Rayder Mostly lurking lately.... Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 2,160 Rep Power: 71	Ogg is great, but many MP3 players don't support that format and AFAIK no boom-boxes support it. That will probably change in time, I imagine, but MP3Pro DOES work in these situations now. That would be the reason to use it. Just my 2 cents.

Jun 13, 2003, 09:25 PM	Thread Starter #9
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	well I really only started this thread to get your viewpoints on the mp3pro format. I like ogg alot as I said, but unfortunately it still doesnt have the mass market in the way that Mp3 has. I also have a Compaq portable Mp3 player and it will only accept MP3 or WMA, so I generally tend to stick to MP3 (lame).