New TBSC drivers release - 4193's

rogeld · Jun 28, 2003, 06:25 AM

New drivers released today, they are a release canidate so use at your own risk, but looks like TBeach is still writing new drivers!

ftp://ftp.voyetra.com/pub/tbs/santacru/sc_4193.exe

Nearly forgot the release notes, prepare to giggle like a school girl for this one!!!

* 5.1 Gaming support! Now you can play the latest 5.1 games with the 5.1
speaker config and hear everything you are supposed to.

* Windows Media Player 9 5.1 support added under XP.
Now you can play multi-channel WMA files!

* SRS CSII 5.1 plugin for MP9 works with this driver.

* EAX 2.0 fully compliant. Query for BasicSupport of Deferred EAX
properties now works.

* Fix for games where all sound would suddenly stop.

* Fixed Hibernate/S3 issue where center/sub would not work without a speaker
config change after resume.

* Fixed game port conflict with MPX/nForce motherboards.

* 3d sounds with elevation playback distortion free.

* DSound primary renderer now follows the speaker config. Example going
from 5.1 to headphone, all 3d sounds will now play out two channels.
This corrects missing sounds in games.

* AC3 digital over SPDIF now works in 98SE. Detects if the AC3 node should
be utilized in the topology based on system support.
98SE requires QFE 269601USA8.EXE, 2K requires SP2.

* Enhanced MIDI playback with better timing and fixed region exclusive
(hihats)

* Fixed DSound volume scaling. Now distant sounds in games are more audible.

* Matched Center/Sub volume scaling to front/rear output levels.

* Fixed distortion/intermittent noise playing multiple channels at various
sample rates.

* Synced up the windows speaker modes with Santa Cruz Control Panel.

* Improved Installer. Removes old driver and installs new one. Corrects
missing support files when uninstalling/reinstalling without restarting.
9x now prompts for a reboot after driver install.

* Bugchecks on uninstalling resolved.

* Optimized boot time and resume from standby times.

Additional Notes:
=================
* XP ONLY: Santa Cruz effects may not work when playing certain multi-channel
( >2 ) streams while in 6 speaker mode.

* You can use the 'restore defaults' in the Santa Cruz Control Panel to use
the default speaker setting you selected during the install. Please note
that other presets do not affect the speaker config or the master volume.

* To load the Santa Cruz tray icon (blue speaker), simply run the Santa Cruz
Control Panel from the Start Menu or Windows Control Panel. Right click on
it and select the 'Load System Tray' from the context menu.

* 98SE ONLY: if you install the QFE for AC3 support, the mixer device will
show two wave sliders in tandem.

Enjoy and thank you for choosing Turtle Beach!

digitalwanderer · Jun 28, 2003, 07:11 AM

D-loading now.

rogeld · Jun 28, 2003, 08:04 AM

The damn things actually fix what they were supposed to. Simply wonderful drivers. Digi, how they are working out for you? Fixed my 5.1 in games problem on my end.

Kenshinw95 · Jun 29, 2003, 08:15 PM

Does this mean I can put my TBSC back in my tower?
I took it out 'cause it was having problems, and
incompatibility issues with stuff like the Hulk demo.
EVERYTHING would studder, and grind to a halt.

Then everything went back to normal, except for
the sound which quit all together. It was like I had
turned my speakers off. (My four speakers - ACS-54).

(My specs if it'll help..)
I use WinXP Home w/SP1 on an Asus A7N8X-non deluxe
with a G4 Ti4200(AGP-8X), and 512MB DDR Ram.

rogeld · Jun 29, 2003, 09:21 PM

Actually that is one of the fixes in driver for the sound cutting out suddenly. They work wonderfully and I FINALLY have 5.1 in games. Give them a try and here is hoping you have as good an experience as I have had with them. If you have any further problems after trying them out, post again and hopefully myself or another with a TBSC will be able to help you. Good luck!

digitalwanderer · Jun 29, 2003, 09:55 PM

I totally spaced 'em after downloading them...I'm gonna install 'em in a little bit. (I'm frenzied today, I'm cleaning for a visit from me other sister & her two kids next week. It'll be fun, but I got a LOT of work to do to the house!

) ((OMFG! I am turning SO domestic!!!

))

rogeld · Jun 29, 2003, 10:24 PM

Looks like it made main page but two days after I posted here. I am on the ball baby, yeah. Beat Shrink to it. Don't worry about being domestic digi, you are being a good little Susie homemaker. If you start talking about your choice in aprons, however, you will need to be put down.

Alcofiel · Jun 30, 2003, 06:02 PM

there not all good for me, i have a stutter with gp4 en toca race driver. really anoying. i didn't have this problem before with any of the older drivers.

peterosesbookie · Jun 30, 2003, 06:29 PM

I am really glad that they fixed that problem. It was a real pain not knowing where the problem lied. I guess it was a driver issue after all.

later

pete

brando · Jun 30, 2003, 08:39 PM

That would be really good - I've been getting crackles and/or complete silence in IL2 Forgotten Battles recently, which is no fun.

Trunks0 · Jul 4, 2003, 11:46 AM

So how well does the 5.1 work? This is a feature I would love to have and since it was done on the SantaCruz it shouldn't be to much trouble to get in on the GameTheaterXP(same chipset)

Man the only reason I have held out on a 5.1 system is that my soundcard did not support it(that and I didn't really have the cash till now etc etc etc)

brando · Jul 4, 2003, 03:59 PM

The Santa Cruz works really well with the 4193's - no hiss or crackle!

Cavicchi · Jul 5, 2003, 03:42 PM

Thanks for all the info. Do you know why the 4193 drivers are not Microsoft certified?

rogeld · Jul 5, 2003, 03:47 PM

They are release canidates and therefore haven't been deemed polished enough for certification. Also, on Turtle Beach's page for these drivers, it says they are beta, so that right there will tell you why. Until Turtle Beach decides they are finished enough to not be beta anymore, they will go about requesting MS's approval, which isn't very hard at all given some driver releases.

Trunks0 · Jul 26, 2003, 03:42 AM

So how is the 5.1 support? Does it work properly?(like things pan accross the center properly etc etc)

DallasStar · Jul 27, 2003, 06:30 AM

whoa! that's quite a lot of fixes in one release

Jun 28, 2003, 06:25 AM	#1
rogeld DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 259 Rep Power: 0	New TBSC drivers release - 4193's New drivers released today, they are a release canidate so use at your own risk, but looks like TBeach is still writing new drivers! ftp://ftp.voyetra.com/pub/tbs/santacru/sc_4193.exe Nearly forgot the release notes, prepare to giggle like a school girl for this one!!! * 5.1 Gaming support! Now you can play the latest 5.1 games with the 5.1 speaker config and hear everything you are supposed to. * Windows Media Player 9 5.1 support added under XP. Now you can play multi-channel WMA files! * SRS CSII 5.1 plugin for MP9 works with this driver. * EAX 2.0 fully compliant. Query for BasicSupport of Deferred EAX properties now works. * Fix for games where all sound would suddenly stop. * Fixed Hibernate/S3 issue where center/sub would not work without a speaker config change after resume. * Fixed game port conflict with MPX/nForce motherboards. * 3d sounds with elevation playback distortion free. * DSound primary renderer now follows the speaker config. Example going from 5.1 to headphone, all 3d sounds will now play out two channels. This corrects missing sounds in games. * AC3 digital over SPDIF now works in 98SE. Detects if the AC3 node should be utilized in the topology based on system support. 98SE requires QFE 269601USA8.EXE, 2K requires SP2. * Enhanced MIDI playback with better timing and fixed region exclusive (hihats) * Fixed DSound volume scaling. Now distant sounds in games are more audible. * Matched Center/Sub volume scaling to front/rear output levels. * Fixed distortion/intermittent noise playing multiple channels at various sample rates. * Synced up the windows speaker modes with Santa Cruz Control Panel. * Improved Installer. Removes old driver and installs new one. Corrects missing support files when uninstalling/reinstalling without restarting. 9x now prompts for a reboot after driver install. * Bugchecks on uninstalling resolved. * Optimized boot time and resume from standby times. Additional Notes: ================= * XP ONLY: Santa Cruz effects may not work when playing certain multi-channel ( >2 ) streams while in 6 speaker mode. * You can use the 'restore defaults' in the Santa Cruz Control Panel to use the default speaker setting you selected during the install. Please note that other presets do not affect the speaker config or the master volume. * To load the Santa Cruz tray icon (blue speaker), simply run the Santa Cruz Control Panel from the Start Menu or Windows Control Panel. Right click on it and select the 'Load System Tray' from the context menu. * 98SE ONLY: if you install the QFE for AC3 support, the mixer device will show two wave sliders in tandem. Enjoy and thank you for choosing Turtle Beach!

Jun 28, 2003, 07:11 AM	#2
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,620 Rep Power: 0	Thanks! D-loading now. __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

Jun 29, 2003, 09:55 PM	#6
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,620 Rep Power: 0	Doh! I totally spaced 'em after downloading them...I'm gonna install 'em in a little bit. (I'm frenzied today, I'm cleaning for a visit from me other sister & her two kids next week. It'll be fun, but I got a LOT of work to do to the house! ) ((OMFG! I am turning SO domestic!!! )) __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

Jun 30, 2003, 06:02 PM	#8
Alcofiel electronic fantastic Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rotterdam Posts: 51 Rep Power: 0	there not all good for me, i have a stutter with gp4 en toca race driver. really anoying. i didn't have this problem before with any of the older drivers. __________________ "i look back and i'm amazed, my thoughts were so clear and true and three words looped through my mind endlessly repeating themselves, like a broken record you're so cool, you're so cool, you're so cool...."

Jun 30, 2003, 06:29 PM	#9
peterosesbookie HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: OHIO Posts: 556 Rep Power: 0	This is going to be nice for the Dual Athlon Boards with the MPX chipsets I am really glad that they fixed that problem. It was a real pain not knowing where the problem lied. I guess it was a driver issue after all. later pete __________________ A Cat almost always blinks when hit in the head with a ball peen hammer!

Jun 28, 2003, 08:04 AM	Thread Starter #3
rogeld DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 259 Rep Power: 0	The damn things actually fix what they were supposed to. Simply wonderful drivers. Digi, how they are working out for you? Fixed my 5.1 in games problem on my end.

Jun 29, 2003, 08:15 PM	#4
Kenshinw95 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: N. E. Ohio Posts: 40 Rep Power: 0	Does this mean I can put my TBSC back in my tower? I took it out 'cause it was having problems, and incompatibility issues with stuff like the Hulk demo. EVERYTHING would studder, and grind to a halt. Then everything went back to normal, except for the sound which quit all together. It was like I had turned my speakers off. (My four speakers - ACS-54). (My specs if it'll help..) I use WinXP Home w/SP1 on an Asus A7N8X-non deluxe with a G4 Ti4200(AGP-8X), and 512MB DDR Ram.

Jun 29, 2003, 09:21 PM	Thread Starter #5
rogeld DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 259 Rep Power: 0	Actually that is one of the fixes in driver for the sound cutting out suddenly. They work wonderfully and I FINALLY have 5.1 in games. Give them a try and here is hoping you have as good an experience as I have had with them. If you have any further problems after trying them out, post again and hopefully myself or another with a TBSC will be able to help you. Good luck!

Jun 29, 2003, 10:24 PM	Thread Starter #7
rogeld DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 259 Rep Power: 0	Looks like it made main page but two days after I posted here. I am on the ball baby, yeah. Beat Shrink to it. Don't worry about being domestic digi, you are being a good little Susie homemaker. If you start talking about your choice in aprons, however, you will need to be put down.

Jun 30, 2003, 08:39 PM	#10
brando DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Does this mean I can put my TBSC back in my tower? That would be really good - I've been getting crackles and/or complete silence in IL2 Forgotten Battles recently, which is no fun.

Jul 4, 2003, 11:46 AM	#11
Trunks0 Keeping an open mind Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver,B.C.,Canada Posts: 552 Rep Power: 62 System Specs	So how well does the 5.1 work? This is a feature I would love to have and since it was done on the SantaCruz it shouldn't be to much trouble to get in on the GameTheaterXP(same chipset) Man the only reason I have held out on a 5.1 system is that my soundcard did not support it(that and I didn't really have the cash till now etc etc etc) __________________

Jul 4, 2003, 03:59 PM	#12
brando DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	The Santa Cruz works really well with the 4193's - no hiss or crackle!

Jul 5, 2003, 03:42 PM	#13
Cavicchi DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 53 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: New TBSC drivers release - 4193's Thanks for all the info. Do you know why the 4193 drivers are not Microsoft certified?

Jul 5, 2003, 03:47 PM	Thread Starter #14
rogeld DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 259 Rep Power: 0	They are release canidates and therefore haven't been deemed polished enough for certification. Also, on Turtle Beach's page for these drivers, it says they are beta, so that right there will tell you why. Until Turtle Beach decides they are finished enough to not be beta anymore, they will go about requesting MS's approval, which isn't very hard at all given some driver releases.

Jul 26, 2003, 03:42 AM	#15
Trunks0 Keeping an open mind Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver,B.C.,Canada Posts: 552 Rep Power: 62 System Specs	So how is the 5.1 support? Does it work properly?(like things pan accross the center properly etc etc) __________________

Jul 27, 2003, 06:30 AM	#16
DallasStar Junior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wave Existence Posts: 2,065 Rep Power: 0	whoa! that's quite a lot of fixes in one release __________________ "A picture of my existence... would show a useless wooden stake covered in snow... stuck loosely at a slant in the ground in a ploughed field on the edge of a vast open plain on a dark winter night." --- Franz Kafka